Or has there started to be a slight shift towards downward scoring of some of these very popular "10/10" ladies over the past few weeks? I know the subject of score manipulation has been widely discussed on the boards the last few months but I can't help but notice a few of the ladies seem to have been dinged a time or two. I assume some of them might be guys looking for free VIP but others seem to be legit reviews by legit posters.
It's a waste of time...
No ofence. But I could give two shits what some other guy rated a girl I was interested in seeing.
It has no bearing on how my experience will go.
It's different from person to person.
All I want to know is if she legit..
I can figure everything else out on my own.
When I was new. I was all concerned about numbers, and reviews..
Then I learned.. Now. I rarely even bather to review.
I don't read reviews anymore either..
I just don't care... Why do you?
I want to know if the provider does what I enjoy. There are some great looking ladies that only do cbj, I have a stupid mental block with condoms so I can't finish with a condom on, Hell I can't even maintain an erection for very long with one on. So, even if she's drop dead gorgeous I don't see ladies that won't do bbbj. I have to travel to hobby, so when I see a lady there is an investment just to get to her without even taking into account her donation so it's really important for me to know what she does and doesn't do. The numbers only matter to me if they are all bad, but you can see that she isn't a good provider too by reading the reviews. To each their own man, remember that your experience is your own and not everybody's.
Reasonably common issue, especially for guys who are older and have been riding bareback for many years. Evidently, you can retrain your dick by jerking off into a condom enough times that your little head learns that the condom is a good an fun place to be
Either way, I'm too good at jacking off to change my methods at this point. Oh my goodness, did I just say that out loud? Oh, I guess I didn't say it at all, I typed it.
And just in case she's reading this, darlin, you have my attention.
then guys paying that kind of vig will never admit that they paid 11/11 prices for an 8/8 session.
As a lot of these gals start amassing the 10/10's, they start upping their prices. This can have the opposite affect than what they are looking for relative to maintaining their scores because when they breach the next economic level of the hobby, those guys are expecting more for their money. The truly great ones will keep pushing through until they hit the high rollers who are ego driven not to give lower scores.
In any event, the majority of the 10/10 providers are really only 8/8 or 9/9 hookers anyway, but they get higher scores for a variety of reasons, including score manipulation, the guys are comparing them to their wives instead of other hookers, and BOGO type of sessions where they offer extra time or services for the same price. Not to mention that a large number of internet hobbyists are elderly gents looking for love in all of the wrong places and are riding a "just got laid by a PYT" kind of high when they sit down to write the reviews.
Ultimately, the scores matter less than the identified services offered, the realness of the pics, and consistent descriptions of services in the narratives.
Or forget all the bullshit above and the hookers in question just get old and sloppy over time, giving sub par performance and not taking care of their looks. Who the fuck knows.
I can vouch for that theory lol. When my rate was the highest, so were my scores. Guys who pay the least expect the most, and grade the hardest. Once I got above 400, nothing but 9s and 10s, but I don't think my appearance or service changed any... then again, maybe it did, but not in the ways one would assume.
I think I was just seeing guys who were not all that worried about pops and positions and were more concerned with the entire experience. Truth be told, I have done more work in an hour appt. than most of my overnights. I got rid of that hour within the first year of escorting, because of what you touched on.
Another thing I have noticed with the straight 10 providers or even a stream of 10s, is that once a guy has the balls to give one a 7, others feel ok about following suit. No one wants to be that asshole who messes up her streak, which is why some fight so hard to NEVER get that first score below a 9.
I was never in an area where I could be in the Top 100, so I can't really say if it matters being on it. I can say that reviews equate to money, but it also depends on the market. There is no shortage of men spending big bucks who do not write reviews.
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by giving scores like Halloween candy. I am not saying that you don't deserve it. You definitely do, but there is a good reason why some high end hookers get all 9s and 10s..
And then there are some 10/10 gals, who negotiate everything before they even see a client. No surprises there.
If I do an overnight, I will probably grade even harder and write even a longer review, with even more vivid details (nothing that compromises her or my safety, BTW...) unless previously agreed to do an exception for the gal.
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"Grade even harder," yes professor, it's one of the reasons why this whole thing ends up spinning itself into awfulness.
I'm not on either side, women who manipulate scores, give discounts for reviews, hell, even ASK for reviews help to create this atmosphere. But on the men's side, someone who takes it that seriously like you do, that this is some sort of sport where one is a judge, it's just a different niche. For those who excel at that, good for them, but takes too much out of what the act is supposed to be.
It's the little things.
If I do an overnight, I will probably grade even harder and write even a longer review, with even more vivid details (nothing that compromises her or my safety, BTW...) unless previously agreed to do an exception for the gal.
I have done only handful of them in all these 11-12 yrs of mongering. I am also more of a one pop guy and would probably be able to go twice or may be three times (that's pushing it)
Its kind of hard to justify to pay a woman to sleep next to you.
More than being a huge expense, it would be money wasted.
You know how many people LONG to sleep with someone else, even if it's in this type of arrangement.
that I would pay someone to sleep next to me.. And when I sleep by myself I can sleep in the middle of the bed and can have the whole damn bed to myself.. 
If I wanted to sleep next to someone and hear her snore and fart, I would have got married.
To quote Henry David Thoreau...."I have never found a companion that was so companionable as solitude.
I do find that longer sessions, 2,3 hours, are usually more rewarding... Especially with a repeat who was good on an hour session. So, yeah, if I review (unlikely in my case), I'll probably give a longer session a higher score because I enjoyed it more and have a stronger memory of the provider.
Overnights, for me, is sort of a whole different kind of experience. There's a lot of time spent between bouts of passion. You know, talk, snacking, drinking, going out, napping... It's just different.
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to wine and dine at the best place in the town. I will pick up the tab. But I ain't paying her to eat.
Way to follow in their footsteps.
If I would be taking cues from all the older guys, I would be writing poems of hookers I've seen... Its usually the older guys that are softies
Ha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHidubHeHY
I think CW has been fully nationalized. lol
Extended time is the only way to go. Especially with someone you have spent quality time with in the past. At this point, 3 to 4 hours is a minimum. It's the whole Quality vs. Quantity discussion point.
Ain't too many things more beautiful than watching the sunrise with an incredible lady in my arms and she has this look in her eyes that says "you just banged my brains out and I just screwed you senseless. Isn't this incredible?" as she lays her head on my big furry chest, holding her tight.
BTW--where's my hat, Curls? Gimmie a blue one to match my eyes!!! LO
And it would definitely be a great TER Provider Detector. Cute babe looks and winks, BINGO!
What percentage of sessions are 1 hour, 2 hour, 4 hour vs. overnight?
Just based on finances, I would think the overnights would be well under 10%, maybe under 5%, varying by provider. But that's an uneducated guess. Anyone care to set me straight? (so to speak...)
In 2013, 90% were 90 min. 10% were 60 minutes.
Curly i have to say I posted this for 2 reasons
1- I was genuinely curious if anyone else had noticed this apparent shift
2- If you would wind a way to hijack and f-up a perfectly good post with your incessant drivel about how much of a perfect "hobbyist " you are….. guess what others on this board have opinions and shocker of all shockers can actually have relevant observations, thoughts or god forbid opinions… I truly feel sorry for you. You an your mangina BS can go shove it where there sun don't shine. I am sick of you hijacking the DC and GD board.
Never said or implied that you broke any of the rules... as you so often love to say. I personally am just sick of your pious mightier than thou attitude that you are the king of all "johns".
Get a clue this is a DISCUSSION board everyone has an opinion they are like AS===les everyone has one and your attitude always screams mine smells like roses and yours is dirty and nasty.
Chill out a bit and maybe just maybe you might learn something new.
I was just playing with Cosette and HTG. Sorry you felt neglected and are stomping your feet for attention.
Poor kid..
Enjoy some Curly fries.. My treat.. 
Typical Curly … get called out deflect with bad humor
Prices will only head in one direction - up... Add to this a group of newbies who overscore initially and do not take advantage of the ter option to rewrite the review. OTOH, once scores plateau at 10's, there's only one direction to go, given we know that a LARGE proportion of these girls, by definition, cannot be "once in a lifetime." Add in any kind of movement against grade inflation and there you have it. That's the way I'd see any negative score pressure, if it exists, which I doubt. Rather, I think we are just seeing plateauing of grade inflation, not a correction.
But right now, there definitely is a hooker "bubble." Here's why I think this. No group of hookers is going to come in and undersell/correct the market. But a disruptive technology like virtual sex (think surrogates movie) could dramatically correct the live ho pricing. Yes we're years off, but it could happen in my lifetime. Anyone could say it's wishful thinking. However, I've got no skin in the game and I'm pretty stable in terms of volume and satisfaction right now. Just a playful prediction. Then there's a whole other discussion of what legalization would do. That I see as being highly unlikely in the US in my lifetime.
As a lot of these gals start amassing the 10/10's, they start upping their prices. This can have the opposite affect than what they are looking for relative to maintaining their scores because when they breach the next economic level of the hobby, those guys are expecting more for their money. The truly great ones will keep pushing through until they hit the high rollers who are ego driven not to give lower scores.
In any event, the majority of the 10/10 providers are really only 8/8 or 9/9 hookers anyway, but they get higher scores for a variety of reasons, including score manipulation, the guys are comparing them to their wives instead of other hookers, and BOGO type of sessions where they offer extra time or services for the same price. Not to mention that a large number of internet hobbyists are elderly gents looking for love in all of the wrong places and are riding a "just got laid by a PYT" kind of high when they sit down to write the reviews.
Ultimately, the scores matter less than the identified services offered, the realness of the pics, and consistent descriptions of services in the narratives.
Or forget all the bullshit above and the hookers in question just get old and sloppy over time, giving sub par performance and not taking care of their looks. Who the fuck knows.
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Virtual sex? I'll pass unless the tactile sensation is really that good. Robots will be the disruptive technology. Discuss.
The Robotic thing doesn't have to replace providers, just offer an alternative sort of like massage does now. You'd like to get laid, don't feel up to spending the coin or doing the preparation (fresh sugaring, manicure, dress to impress, whatever), so you go for the low market alternative. I can see that happening. Also, it might have a legalized happy ending before the real thing, and even become "respectable" in posh circles
There were a couple of moments when prices seemed to stabilize. First was about 10 years ago when a bunch of pretty eastern European girls showed up at bargain rates. Then again when all the K-girls showed up. In the case of the former many disappeared as quickly as they arrived thereby abating that source of competition. The K-girls on the other hand seem determined to keep themselves so isolated and so exclusive that they really have no competitive impact at all anymore. Like green fees and lift tickets it will take major forces from the outside to stop the skyward march, such as another recession.
Love the post but that will never happen there are far too many guys who are too easily swayed or have super inflated egos. If everyone would just be honest ( and I am not saying there are not 10/10 girls out there) and grade accordingly this would be a much more useful tool… that being said I agree 1000 pct it will take a major force to stop this skyward march and I don't see that happening any time soon unfortunately.
I guess if a guy needs to get free VIP he shouldn't be in here, I mean c'Mon man it's $25 fucking dollars a month. I don't even know for sure how many reviews in what time period gets you free VIP, but I do know that only the first review of a lady counts toward the free VIP. That's stupid, so you are somehow penalized for repeating with a provider. In the end, I guess I really could care too much, I mean really? $25 a month, for the enjoyment I get from TER it's a pretty good deal, what other porn site can I be on in a public place and not worry about someone seeing my screen? And if a guy is concerned about $25/month the hobby might not be the life for him.
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