WE Wife experience.
Apparently, there are many variations of what GFE entails.
Having been out in the wilds of advertising and away from TER for the last year+, I need to ask the TER peeps....what do YOU consider GFE?
Well. for ME, “GFE,” at a bare MINIMUM, involves “LFK,” followed by “DFK.”
Next on my list of requirements for a “GFE” session is a “BBBJ.”
After that, everything ELSE could be considered up for discussion/debate, IMHO.
Again, gotta have a MIMIMUM of “LFK.”
If not, DON’T bother advertising yourself as such.
You’re just adding to the confusion, and doing a DISSERVICE to those that provide ACTUAL “GFE” service. 🙁
To me, GFE also includes the "vibe" of the encounter, which needs to be your version of friendly and sexy, not "wham, bam, thank-you, Ma'am." This also means you don't count the money in front of me and perhaps offer a drink. You CAN ask if I'd like to do "a quick rinse" in the bathroom, especially if it's a hot day. Most guys will take that as more than a suggestion but it's fine if done right.
Personally, as long as you're hot, I don't really care if you do none of the above but most guys expect it.
and I have to agree. Yes GFE is "partly" menu options, I can't imagine a GFE without kissing, but kissing without the least hint of passion is just as bad as no kissing at all.
I would have to say that GFE is half menu and half attitude, one without the other does NOT add up to a GFE as far as I am concerned.
Speaking of menu items, I have one SB in particular where we don't engage in oral sex at all, but the sex itself is so passionate and the experience so "real" that she most certainly qualifies as a GFE, and yes of course she's hot too. lol
If you're really picky then only go with well reviewed providers. Otherwise you take some risk that the date may not go the way you want it to. I would say just go in with an open mind and willingness to accept.
Oh, the age old discussion..
I advertise as a Girlfriend Experience escort because in my humble opinion I offer an unscripted experience and avoid being too mechanical.
Because sex work is mostly legal in Japan (where I work) I can advertise anything except vaginal sex. I do CBJ because of my antibiotics intolerance, and I’m very transparent about it therefore I never get complaints from my clients about me not delivering the grande GFE they’ve expected.
and you aren't quite as transparent about this as you claim. Your profile claims that you provide a BBBJ and your last score of a "9" in performance would be impossible under TER rules without a BBBJ considering you didn't perform anal or a gangbang/threesome.
Yes, your website does state that you are CBJ only, but many guys really on what they read on your profile and reviews without reading every word of your website and while the difference between a CBJ and a BBBJ is not a deal breaker for some clients, for others it most definitely would keep them from booking with you if they knew in advance that BBBJ was off the table. If you are striving for transparency, I would suggest you try a little harder.
haha!
it means to me, a connection, not a menu. Because I am not a restaurant. I offer an experience, one that we BOTH enjoy.
Respectfully” “Veronica,” that kind of outlook can become PROBLEMATIC, for BOTH interested parties.
It may not be one for YOU, being the seasoned, professional VETERAN you are. 😉
I’m sure you provide your “clients” with a more than SATISFACTORY “experience,” REGARDLESS of what you call it.
It applies more so to those that want to give off a certain “impression,” and want to be compensated accordingly.
Then, it becomes problematic when they DON’T provide a satisfactory experience to a “client” who was LED to believe OTHERWISE. 🙁
you are indeed right, you are not the one for me, I am a professional girlfriend & veteran too and no shame on that, you like what you like... my clients don't complaint about the experience they have with me. To me, checklist sounds sooooo mechanical and Im not a robot, now... my real clients really know how to get me on my "sexy mood".
If you’d bothered to read CAREFULLY, I never said “l” was not “the one for you.” 😳
I said perhaps OTHERS may not be for you.
Sorry, but ABOVE a certain price point, MOST mongers aren’t willing to RISK having a lousy experience because of some “misinterpretation” of what said experience would entail.
Why should YOUR profession be any different than that any other?
For example, would you trust a doctor with your health simply on his WORD, without any DETAILS as to how he intends to improve/treat it?
Would you trust a lawyer to win your case, again, going only by his WORD, and, again, without ANY details how he intends to WIN it?
Sorry, dear, there are just TOO many other “options” out there where the intended “experience” is a bit more clear cut, and the chance of having a SATISFACTORY “experience” more guaranteed.
Good luck to ya... 👋🏼
How is it you get to determine what BOTH will enjoy? SOME guys MAY enjoy a "GFE" session where its all about "connection" and not about sex acts, but I guarantee you that MOST guys will walk away from that experience, i.e. a women who touts themselves as GFE but isn't, as highly disappointed and it will show in a bad review.
I am sure you would agree that a girl that wont French kiss her clients, wont let them perform daty and wont provide a BBBJ really cant say she is GFE. Well, I mean she CAN say it, but that would be a fraud right? Menu certainly plays a part.
How many GF's do you know that wouldn't DFK their RW boyfriend? Wouldn't blow him without a condom? Wouldn't want to be pleased orally by him? Come on Veronica this is silly.
Many women in the biz want it both ways; i.e. they know by not marketing themselves as GFE will hurt them, but on the other hand the specific things that clients would consider making a certain woman a "Girl Friend Experience", they want no part of.
So if you offer the "connection" only, without the menu options that almost all of your clientele would agree is GFE, you are just muddying the definition so it doesn't hurt your particular business model.
Perfectly acceptable for you to do that, as YOU are acting in YOUR best interests, but also acceptable for us to point it out and see women who have OUR best interests at heart, especially with how expensive the "hobby" can be.
A quick check of Ronnie's reviews and profile shows that she indeed DOES provide a GFE date, but if you look one post up the thread at Simona SHE is the type of provider you are talking about. She "claims" to be GFE but her menu shows her to be anything but.
I was going by what she SAID, not what some guy MAY have experienced when he set up her profile. She also hasn't had a review in 5 months so how would anyone know what she offers NOW?
She may be in the process of switching from a "GFE" to more non GFE type activities in the coming days/weeks. I dont know and you don't know.
I went by what she said TODAY as I don't have a crystal ball to look into what she DID 6 months ago, a year ago or when her profile was set up 5 years ago.
But I will concede that my original post could be an appropriate response to Simona as well.
Thank you, 😜
I don't like to feel like a checklist, but I do enjoy give and received attention.
We're prepared to pay but we also appreciate an appropriate degree of clarity. It's rather disappointing, speaking in generalities, of course, to expect a sumptuous steak and be served a hamburger instead. Apologies to all the vegetarians and vegans out there.
That why I like Australia. The providers will list services in ads and websites. A lot of that has to do with the legal situation being much friendlier to prostitution in Australia compared to the states. I found that Canadian providers are more open to answering questions about services compared to providers in the states as well especially those in Quebec.
it's the US... this site just got open back recently... lots of things happening and safety should be everyone's priority.
I totally understand that!
....non of my real girl friends ever blew me, and a few would allow ORAL. Now that was in Missouri, in a WASPY part of town, in the late 70's.
When I started my career in Austin Texas, holly crap were those girls horny! But that is a story for another day.
a "connection", do you use jumper cables or something else?
It's " GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE"!
Girl Friends kiss passionately with tongue, they suck your dick without a condom, and they like to have their pussies licked. DONE!!!
Any girlfriend that does not do these thing is called a WIFE.
Any woman that down plays the menu is suspect to me as that is a major red flag. Your body, your rules, and I respect that, but my hard earned money isn't going to someone who stresses connection, which IS important to me, but then tells menu options are not. Thank you for listening to an opposing point. Your photos are very attractive.
but, it's ok tho!
True dat! Except the comment about the pics. She looks a little chubby. Like a blueberry. Might wannna hit the gym. She also apparently has a rep of talking too much about clients and even speaking negatively about some that appear to be very good and highly regarded clients.
on my DNS list.
Well then don’t charge GFE prices if you have that kind of attitude please be honest with the guys we don’t need providers like you in the hobby so either change or find another way to make a living!!!
you don't know me, supposed to be a cute JOKE! Damn guys, you just cant play nice huh...
sigh.
Not that I'm not an asshole of course. EVERYONE knows I'm an asshole, but I can "usually" recognize a light hearted joke when I see one. lol
BTW Welcome to my world, you just can't use "subtle" humor on these boards, even people who should know better tend to take everything written here literally. Subtlety works just fine here, as long as you hit everyone with a baseball bat first. lol
This is sort of the icing on the cake. Veronica's website points out how she tries to monetize texts and emails. You could sign up for a monthly plan. What poor old sap would do such a thing? Then reportedly she received a bad review on another site so she sent them a nasty letter to get it removed. Who knows if it was fake or honest? Probably did the same thing with TER reviews and posts. Personal info too I believe. Pass.
A little off of topic. I went to your web site. Very well done. In your photos you did something I am surprised a lot of women don't. You included phots that didn't cut off your feet.
I am not all about a foot fetish but I do find all aspects of a female beautiful and or sexy. If they are sexy show them. You would be surprised how many men look.
Unrushed.
Greeting with a warm hug.
Passionate kissing.
Foreplay.
BBBJ.
DATY.
What's NOT GFE:
Obviously not liking your hair touched.
Being cum shy.
By the town sheriff shows up at door with VPO papers.
Our definition of GFE is carved in stone:
DATY
DFK
BBBJ
MSOG
All done in an unrushed fashion and with enthusiasm. Anything short of that is NOT 100 Proof GFE. Please see our reviews.
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mind. Of course, as mentioned here, mutual chemistry is the most important part of a session. But that is not automatic and only possible when both hobbyist and provider find reasons to feel connected.
Have not looked at it in quite sometime yet if my memory serves me, the Urban Dictionary would claim GFE incudes; DFK/BBBJ. Again, even if a provider is open to those activities, YMMV clearly applies. There has to be sessions in which even ladies who are open to DFK/BBBJ would not want to share those activities with those clients they consider, "yuck."
Look, let’s be HONEST - if you’re dealing with a “true” pro, she may SECRETLY hate your guts, and never want anything to do with you in REAL life.
The “trick” is to make you BELIEVE that she into you, and have that “chemistry.”
GENUINE chemistry bet. a client and a “pro” may be hard to ascertain, as it’s in a GOOD pro’s interest to make, and keep, you HAPPY.
In a “perfect” world..., sure, I’d want EVERY “pro” I meet to fall madly in LOVE with me, and want to pay ME for the benefit of my time. 😊
In the REAL world..., I’ll gladly settle for a “pro” that can CONVINCE me that SHE feels that way, REGARDLESS of how she ACTUALLY feels.
That’s what separates the REAL “pros” from the “wannabes.” 😉
doesn't care what you look like. There are ways to mitigate. Do you really think such a high percentage say they like Doggy best because they like the way it feels? No, its because they don't have to look at you while you're fucking them. When SHE is the one that suggests Doggy, you should consider the likelihood that YOU are this week's "yuck" customer.
You are forcing me to take "Once's" back here. I took "yuck" to mean hygiene issues, not looks. I don't blame a girl for not doing GFE stuff when a guy smells like ass or yesterday's breakfast. lol
My last civie GF (sugar Babe) loved dogie style.
I have had MANY providers throughout the years tell me a rush to doggy for them is when the guy is not appealing to look at. That's as delicate as I can say it, and not nearly as INDELICATE as the descriptors they used when they told me. Obviously Tenn, there are always exceptions, and I certainly did not say ALL providers or in ALL cases. I believe that there are women who like Doggy above all other positions, but not at the rate of 40% (with mish and CG less than half that amount) as mongers believe in the TER poll. It behooves a provider who is entertaining a customer that she does not find physically appealing to tell him her favorite is Doggy. She can close her eyes and imagine its Brad Pitt, not the guy with the festering boil on his forehead who is actually there.
The TER poll where 40% of mongers said their perception was that providers liked Doggy best is inconsistent with what the ladies say when this question periodically comes up on the forums. I think that tells the whole story, i.e., monger perception is often out of sync with reality.
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I agree with CDL....If shes asking for doggy....its to get you out of her sight. Especially if that's the position she tables to you right out of the gate.
Just for the record, I REALLY like doggy....ooohhhhh I'm getting squishy thinking about it.
that you get "squishy."
After fixing the brakes on her car, she makes me lunch and then she pretends shes into the game on TV. We fuck bare back during halftime and fart in front of each other and laugh about it.
Girl Friend Escorting is something very different. It’s all about creating the fantasy that this lady is actually happy to see my old fat ass as I try to gag her with my raw cock in her mouth, DATY her until she’s speaking a foreign language she didn’t know she could speak and the passionate kissing while deeply fucking with triple level protection. The only connection between us is our lips, tongues and the shaft of my dick, but theres the fantasy that there is something more there. And yes that fantasy does include a bigger dick.
Nothing to compare it to or not knowing much about it. I wouldn't think it exists or don't know.
If it 's about kissing, that too I never been much part of it.
lick, lick
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Not every woman can pull it off with every guy, but,
I know it when I see it.
Attitude, or some might call it chemistry, is certainly important but, as the post from 100proof correctly stated, certain activities are "carved in stone" in order to qualify as GFE. I don't disagree that there's a subjective component. But that doesn't diminish the importance of the objective factors.
And I'll break it down in my personal order of priority:
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1. BBBJ - this is a deal breaker. No BBBJ - not going to book.
2. DFK with passion - or at least LFK with passion. I'll need reviews that consistently show this before I book.
3. Mutual groping, moaning, eye contact, focus on me, etc. If she tends to drift off to check/answer her phone, smoke, or just stop actively interacting with me, I won't book, or if this happens during our 1st session, I won't repeat.
4. DATY is available, and it's fresh, shaved, tasty and wet. I don't always wont to do this, but it should be my option.
5. No "time left" count-downs. Ok to mention time at say 1/2 or 2/3 through if I'm not close to finishing, and I'll respect the time that I booked. But updates every 5 minutes will piss me off. I've got too many nightmares from my AMP days when I was a broke-ass monger of some 56-year old Asian GILF trying to HJ me at lightspeed and yelling "YOU COME NOW!" to ever want to repeat that again, especially at local top-shelf pro rates.
6. In a more general sense than #3, affection and appreciation of me and my reciprocal attitude towards her.
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There's more, of course. There are many, many ways a provider can make me feel welcome and important (at least for the hour) and they all contribute to my enjoyment. In contrast, the more she's mechanical, scripted, disinterested, boring, the more I want to (borrowing from another section here) "get off and get out," never to return. If I want to fuck a realistic sex doll, I can buy one for $3-$5k, or even rent one (ewwwww!) if I'm in the UK.
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But for now...
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Life is good.
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The Cat
You asked, so I told ya.
🤪
.....about shaved verses full bush, natural or fake boobs? Please, pretty please?????????
Or it's not an EXPERIENCE. You can't have one without the other. I'm a whole freak (some of your faves could never) so don't come for me about muddying services unless you want yours ass handed to you (that's extra). Anyone can check off all the services in your checklist like a sex robot with no passion/enthusiasm but there's not much fun in that.
You can't really have one part without the other or it's not much of an experience is it?
The gag pun intended is meeting people with an extensive checklist just for them to never get through half of that stuff anyways.
I meet men all the time whose actual gfs and wives don't suck dick or don't swallow or don't allow facials or don't touch them in any other way. That's where I come in because I can very very much provide all of that and some but it's also coming with the attitude of making sure they feel wanted and desired. Long answer short half attitude half service. 'K bye.
Mic drop on THAT one! 😲
About as concise (and HONEST!) an answer to WHAT defines “GFE” as we’re gonna read, ESPECIALLY from an actual “pro!” 😁
(BTW, love the whole “gives hugs...” tagline. Cute! 😉)
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a checklist, and it's not something that will generally happen on the first date. It's a buildup of chemistry, trust, and friendship that progresses with a regular. I know that many guys here don't consider CBJ to be GFE, but that's because they never got a CBJ from my ATF.
As far as concrete examples go, here are a few:
1.My ATF doubled her rates, but grandfathered me at her original rates.
2. A local lady sees me at her house, not an in call. I pay for an hour, and she keeps me around for 2.
3. I know the real name of one of my favorites. She had to spend some time in a battered women's shelter, and we set up to have her mail delivered to my house.
So, to sum it up, it's about connections, not a checklist.
Its all about the kissing
There are no great GFE providers who are not great at DFK
If a provider is great at DFK then its pretty hard for them to NOT be a great GFE
I am ALWAYS in search of great DFK providers...PM me if you have recommendations
Guys outside of a review community or any community that interacts with the online escorts generally think "GFE" is hiring a girlfriend and whatever happens happens.
I advertised GFE for years. I had many clients, (not many of which were VIP's on here, but read the cliff notes,) who could NOT believe I did some things, for instance uncovered BJ's.
They were like - blown away. They thought that was PSE LOL.
Just like in life, we can put on whatever image we want, we can call it what we want, but other people are going to brand us as they see fit no matter what we do lol. We can manage that by attracting the proper clients, which is very possible... but the entire GFE vs PSE vs yada yada yada is just a big ole' spectrum.
Review wise it seems it's BBBJ and french kissing.
I never have understood what PSE really is. I suppose it would include anal, COF, water sports, or just plane aggressive sex with zero pleasantries along the way.
I guess my definition of GFE stretches to the edge of PSE. You are right, definitions very from person to person.
GFE is a misnomer as far as I'm concerned. GFOYWDAFE would be a more appropriate acronym (Girl Friend of Your Wildest Dreams and Fantasies Experience).
I never had a real girl friend experience anything like what I'm hoping for on a date with a provider. I'd be really disappointed if that was all I got.
For me its finding a provider who's company I enjoy, share some wine, and who wants to fuck like rabbits for a couple of hours. GFE brings me back to a time of few complications and less responsibilities. After all, it is supposed to be a fantasy right?
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mmmmm, that does sound so comfy, relaxing, and releasing.