Sounds like you tried to "hook-up" with an escort and got turned down.

In any event, I think you are vastly over-analyzing what escorts actually think about their clients.  It's a job.  They are not involved in it to find boyfriends or to hook up.

For the love of God ladies, we don't all suck with (hot)women.  Why is it so hard to understand that some of us just LOVE hot women and have to HAVE every one of them we see?   A lot of women in the escort/stripper scenes need to open up their mind a bit to this reality.  Quite a bit of guys(more than you'd ever think) who use escorts or frequent strip joints, apply here.  I know guys who get laid like rock stars by the sexiest chicks who use escorts/strippers.  Again, why?  Because they simply LOVE hot, sexy women and want to have as many of them as they can in life.  Why is that so hard to understand?  And before any chick on here tells me the stereotyping isn't true, then why aren't you hooking up with some of the guys you see?  Go ahead, spit out the excuses, lol...  

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You drove in the nail with one strike!

I hook up and screw lots of civie girls, but it takes a lot of work and energy as well as dealing with their games, emotions and general bullshit. I see providers because it's fun, convenient, a guaranteed lay and I can read reviews and pick and choose from menu of services. For instance knowing that a provider bbbj with cim is great and the anticipation of meeting her and enjoying her is s real turn on. With a civie it's a crap shoot.

and why should we care? My point is that it doesn't matter what they think of us.  If you see a girl and you have a good time see her again.  If you don't have a good time don't see her again.  What they think of us before or after is not important as long as they are doing their job when we are in a in the room with them.

The OP is clearly whining because he thinks some regular of his should be fucking him for free by now...

"I think you are vastly over-analyzing what escorts actually think about their clients."

Now THERE'S  some food for thought.

I would bet if we could peek on to the provider only board topics, we would NOT find posts about how great we all are.In fact, in the aggregate, there is probably more disdain than anything else.

Many if not most have someone in their lives whether it be a BF or a husband, and most of the rest hook up in their "real life" at least occasionally. As you say, he is just pissed because HE can't get any.

Hey even a fifty something, rather average looking guy like me gets lucky with a provider every once in a while, it must suck to be him. lmao

So to the OP, yes these women are hooking up all the Goddamned time, just not with you. I would start looking within instead of at the women you are berating

Speaking with my business knowledge that comes from managing businesses other than escorting. Eventually, we will have a nice grandfathered list of gents, the VIP list grows and we get better at attracting OUR type of guy. Alongside that is usually a nice nice savings. The savings alone lets us know we can start saying "No this, no that", let me not mention the calendar filled with appointments from gents we've already met. Eventually, we have to re-prioritize and decide what type of man we want to prioritize our attention to. Also whether or not we want to cater to the guys we've met and limit new one. Remember, we are not machines and do have capacity issues to manage. After all every provider with a plan is 9 times out of 10 trying to master a certain TYPE of instead of continuing her life laying with every type of gent that exists. Thats your goal, respect US and stop assuming that we should be like you with the quantity over quality mindset. Its not hard to understand, but it damn sure sounds like its hard for you to respect... Go ask a lady with $75k saved up and $4k/wk in regular repeat biz if she wants to risk all that to entertain every man that wants to hit every provider on the top 100 list. I'm sure she would, as you would, say no.

I am not at this point at all, I still entertain the masses, but I am becoming confronted with this issue and do realize its not about ego or anything or looking down on the guys that want every woman... it really is about being loyal to those who got me into the lady I am today and also making sure that I am fresh and primped for those gents who I've known for months. On top of that, I've just began continuing my education. Time management is critical since I have other goals than throwing it back at every man that requests me. Respect it.

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I really dont know what you're getting at.  Ofcourse some of us clients have the looks, personality, and money to get with hard to get women.  I too hire escorts out of convenience instead of desperation but I'm not going to try to convince them of how great I really am and I'm especially not interested in trying to get a provider be my GF.

My bet is some hooker looked down on you and know you feel like a loser, or she is giving it up to someone else for free yet making you pay for the privilege. Either way, don't be a "hater", just get a bit more game or grow a thicker skin.

I've been doing this for decades and no woman has ever looked down at me for "paying for it", some have pretended to, but their true reason was losing the "power of the pussy" over me. A man getting plenty of pussy is much less likely to get manipulated by a woman holding sex over his head.

doesnt want to be in a relationship with anyone?
maybe she uses he hobby as a means to get her compartmentalized intimacy without all the BS that usually follows in a relationship?
I have def seen some men I would date within this hobby. I just dont think its possible (for me anyway) to do *this* and be committed. Maybe for some its easier, but for me its impossible.
I am the first to say that many or most of my clients would have no problems getting women out there...many are attractive successful men...but many feel it promotes complications, or they are already married and dont want to risk upsetting the apple cart..or are married to their jobs.
There are countless reasons why men do this, but the main reason is usually not .....they cant get laid otherwise.
While this applies to some, its a very low percentage.

I'm guessing that you'd nod off from boredom.

You seem to think that women or at least providers look down on you for seeing them professionally.

You also seem to resent the fact that providers don't hook up with you for free. You obviously care enough to post this thread, so either you don't have as much game as you think you have, or there is something else going on here.

LOL! Good one!

Why would I "hook" up with the guys I see? This is a business, & although I meet a great magnitude of very nice guys, I'm not doing this to look for a BF, or a relationship, lol. I've been married before, & I have no desire to ever do it again.. including a BF. Just like how you guys say relationships are a pain in the ass, & eventually the girl starts acting a certain way, that can be a 2-way street... BFs are a pain in the ass too. And it's not hard to understand that a lot of guys could pick up any chick they wanted to from a bar or nightclub, but this allows them the convenience of sending them home when they are done, no strings attached.. many men are either married, in a relationship, or married to their job & don't want anything other than NSA fun.. sounds like you're stereotyping yourself. Why would I hook up with someone for free, when I've been smart enough to utilize what I have & get paid for it.. free sex doesn't pay my bills,lol.

I didn't get turned down, nor have I ever tried to hook up with an escort...you're interpreting my thread the wrong way.  I'm just trying to enlighten the ladies around here to let go of the stereotyping and be more open-minded to the fact that there are quite a bit of guys in this scene who have no trouble pulling hot women.  One thing about me is, I'm smart enough to never try and run game on them because I know it's futile in that they already have their pre-conceived stereotyped notions of me, so I don't even bother.  I knew that way before I ever entered this scene, it's just common sense.  One you pay for play, that's it, it's game over for you 99% of the time, and no amount of running game on these women will do you any good, I don't care how much of a player you are.  Like I said, I know guys who get laid like rock stars who these escorts/strippers wouldn't give the time of day outside the confines of business.  And by the way, when I say "hook up", I'm not talking along the lines of a relationship, I'm strictly just talking about "sex for free".

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?   Where in my thread have I said "I" can't get any?  If you had read carefully, you would have seen that I more or less bluntly stated that I get (hot)chicks with no problem.

I don't know where you came to this come to the conclusion that we generalize our clientele, but a good companion knows better. We know that you're going to do what you want to do, and seeing us doesn't mean that you're unhappy in your relationship or having a hard time with women in general. I think that you should rethink your Modus Operandi going forward. I don't think you're wrong that some feel this way, but not all of us.

I think the problem is that we look at our interactions in this arena as different than real world. I know it sounds retarded to do in an arena centered on visuals and physical satisfaction, but crazy, hurt people are very evident, no matter how they package themselves. It only takes a minute to weed out the ones you don't have chemistry with. If that's important to you.

"You are getting way to defensive over this for it to not be hitting close to home. lol"

If you say so.  I know that's what you wish.

But ooohhhhhh you'd be surprised how many think so....I've had my share of guys calling or emailing me asking me for a date-date like to just hang out because I want or need a boyfriend and/or essentially "f*ck for free".  Like TER, CV, EROS, BP etc are dating sites.... this isn't eharmony or match.com or whatever. lol

It's still BALONEY. You are somehow thinking that you are deserving of freebies from providers simply because you can get laid for free yourself.  I don't see how one equals the other.

If you can get free pussy go for it. If you think that providers owe it to you I think you are going to be waiting a long time for that to happen.  Not only do I disagree with you about this supposed stereotype you are trying to apply but I think it's pretty clear you have zero understanding of what motivates escorts.  It's money dude, not the chance to sleep with their customers for free.  Women, escorts or not, can get laid as much as they want in their civvie lives, why should they give it to a client for free and risk losing his business?

My long-time ATF is also one of my closest friends and I've been hearing the stories for years.  Some of her regs are now history because they thought that spending money on her ever few weeks entitled them to be part of her life or hang out for free. When this happens she does what most smart providers do-she bans them...

1. You do realize that often what you interpret as such, isn't always the case, right?  But
I believe with you, it's not so much an issue of you interpreting it that way, as much as it is what you actually wanna believe.  Sorry you can't look past what you don't wanna see.  Eh, what can I say, occassionally I end up busting sick people's bubbles.

2. Another misinterpretation on your part: I harbor no resentment at all that escorts don't give it up for free.  Ladies, I wouldn't however object to a freebee of course, the opportunist that I am  This is a business, and escorts are here to survive and make a living like anyone else, so yeah, they'd be stupid to give it up for free.  I definitely wouldn't.  What I was trying to get at in my thread was, they seem to send out a vibe that communicates they're turned off by you, for which I'd only conclude as them thinking you suck with (hot)women..that never happens with the civvie women I fuck in my day to day life.  And my point was, they should be a little more open-minded to the fact that there are quite a bit of us in the scene who have no problem pulling good-looking women.    

Oh, and an inquiring mind wishes to know..you've actually been able to game escorts with such skill that you've gotten a piece of them for free?  Hmmm, cause I know a few guys(with solid game) who get laid like rock stars who haven't even gotten a piece of an escort for free.....


I'm done with this thread brother, so knock yourself out....
 

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