I have found any provider with a Protonmail mail account is worth a second look. Its a quick check to see if they professionals even though more research is needed.
Thankfully, most folks I know use Protonmail. Despite some loose reporting, it doesn’t appear that Google is training its AI with your emails, but it definitely reads them including attachments. In the US you need to opt-out, see link. This is especially important to do on your phone if you use the Gmail app.
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According to the 'corrected' article, it clarifies that Google is reading emails as part of the Smart features (to enhance email user experience). But, NOT reading emails and attachments to train its AI.
Or, at Google is claiming that they are not.
There are so many better email clients than Gmail out there. I wish I could delete it from my phone and I've never used it.
Do providers worry (or care) if I contact them with gmail? As opposed to protonmail or WhatsApp etc. twice I have reached out via gmail and they asked me to mssg them on p411…
Chances are that if you're on P411 and mentioned that fact while emailing, the lady asked you to message via P411 to prove you actually ARE on it and so that she can see/contact the ladies who OK'd you.🤷🏻♀️ At least, that's what I'd do along with the rest of my protocol.
Once she's checked you out there, the rest of communication likely flows back through email or switches to messaging apps like WhatsApp for the banter and flirting which, yes, you should be doing by this time😉, and day-of logistical coordination.
I typically email gals the screening info they require including my P411 handle. Two gals this year asked me to initiate a P411 booking request, which I did but did not ask why. Can’t y’all just lookup our profile and okays with our handle? Maybe not.
Also, when some gals lookup my profile I get an alert but with some gals I do not. It doesn’t seem to be a setting for admirer accounts so maybe it’s a setting only for companions?
Hhm, ok, gonna share and speculate here....
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There is some time frame between when a guy contacts me in any fashion via P411 and I'm able to click through to his profile and when that time frame has passed and I'm no longer able. Regardless, I ALWAYS get a landing page message that warns that providers cannot stalk clients and that clients are always notified when/who looks at their profile and a lady can be banned for misusing/sharing info blah blah blah.
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If I'm inside the time frame, I click to acknowledge the warning and can see the profile. I can make notes about him (for my eyes only), give OKs, or block/report him if something untoward happened. If I'm outside that time frame, I then get second landing page message that says I cannot view the profile because it's been too long since the client initiated contact with me. I simply can't access their page and I'm instructed to tell the client to act in some fashion.
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I recently had to text 2 new friends to send me an OK request due to this time frame thing. Since I live out of the country, most gents are wise enough to initiate contact some weeks out so we can handle the administrative/logistical end of things and then be silly/build a vibe/remain in contact via email or WhatsApp until we get to be face to face... and that's what happened with these two.
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Also, once I've given an OK to a guy, I always can access his profile (yes, the DON'T STALK/SHARE message still has to be clicked through). This is awesome!! Since returning from hiatus, the majority of my dates have been catching up with old friends.
A) It's super cool that they're still be active! Would love to find more of them!
B) It's super duper cool that they wanna reconnect!!🤩
C) It's super duper uber cool that they can email me, reference their P411 and I can go check my OKs, find them, look over their page, verify the date we met (usually jogs some cool memories along with whatever they mention in email) and also see what fun naughtiness they've been up to in the meantime!🥳 Not only do I get to be a lil bit of a perv, but I get to fact check them that we indeed did meet. I mean, I've always been low volume and quite relational with my friends but damn, I can't possibly remember every single person I had cocktails with from 12-16 years ago!😱🤪
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Switching gears... I'm speculating that when I do go look up these old friends, they do get a notification that I've checked them out. Maybe yes, cuz why have that DON'T STALK/SHARE page I gotta click through if that's NOT tied to the client notification system‽
But maybe no, cuz it's been over a damn decade and I call still access the info vs needing them to re-initiate contact from within the system like that second landing page says to do.🤷🏻♀️ Dunno.
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I'm not aware of any setting on our side of things that would allow us unfettered access to scroll client pages without notification. From a logical standpoint, it simply wouldn't track to have that DON'T STALK/SHARE CLIENT INFO warning page EVERY time I access a client page (3 times on the same day he initiated contact, for instance) if *I* had the ability to bypass it with a setting or for clients I've already OK'd. Nor would it make any sense to have that IT'S BEEN TOO LONG, BIATC message that tells you to have the *client* initiate another action in the system in order to give them an OK - and OKs are a damn big piece of the whole dang purpose of the site!.
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My speculation is that ladies who say they've accessed your page weeks afterward, or at all but you didn't receive a notification..... are lying. Hate to say it🤷🏻♀️ I very well may be wrong🙏🏼 But if I am wrong, I'd luuuv someone to explain how it all works. Not sure if that was clarifying or if it's still just mud.
It’s been a while since this happened, butI believe you actually can’t view those things as a provider unless the potential client has already initiated contact with you in some way through the platform.
It most certainly is a setting. By default it's on so you get notified every time a provider views your profile.
Ladies sometimes want direct person-to-person communications on P411 so they know it's you using the account and not someone else, although even then it's not a 100% guarantee.
Ugh
You need to login to P4 and read the site. I’ll admit some of this is sort of hard to find once you’re in there, it’s a bit counterintuitive. But all of this was put right in front of you as you were signing up, you just didn’t read it.
Sending an email with your P4 handle is meaningless. No, providers cannot look up your profile with that. The whole point of the site is privacy and discretion, providers can’t go browsing around the client profiles.
If that’s what you’ve been doing I’m surprised some of the providers haven’t just ignored you. At best, you’re creating extra steps. At worst, it’s kinda sus because if you’re a P4 member in good standing you should already know all this. It could look like you’re lying about being on there or trying to borrow someone else’s credibility. That’s why they tell you to contact them through the site.
P411 also stresses to never give your username out to anyone other than a provider who is a member, whom you’d like to meet. So if you’re not making sure that every provider you send that to is an active P4 member in good standing, you might be breaking policy anyway.
When you say sometimes you get the alert and sometimes you don’t, are you talking about the email notifications, or in your account on P4? The email alerts sometimes are delayed a good bit and sometimes they just glitch out and don’t show up. Do not rely on them.
In your account, you can click on “tracking” and it will show you the providers who have viewed your profile and exactly when they did so. If you’re saying a provider looked at your profile and it did not show up in the tracking, sorry but I don’t believe you.
If you didn’t get the alert, why do you believe she looked at the profile? Did she tell you she did?
When you send an appointment request, a certain amount of information about you goes along with it to the lady’s email. (At the bottom of the request you can click on “send me a copy of this request” and you’ll be able to see what they see in the email they get from the site) It has your username, the date, time and duration you’re requesting, your off-site contact info, and whatever message to her you typed in the message section. It also has the number of your okays. She can’t see who gave you the okays, or when, without viewing your profile; but it does say how many you have. For some women this is enough. I’ve had providers confirm the appointment and meet me without ever viewing my profile.
Yes, if a gentleman messages me and we get to the point of verification, I suggest he get a Protonmail account to send it through since they are encrypted, and a basic account is free.
There's no reason to use Gmail, Hotmail or even worse, yahoo for this or sending sensitive personal information and I want everyone to stay safe (and discrete!)
How else do you think Google calendar suddenly knows you have travel plans when you buy airplane tickets?
It's pretty common knowledge that Google reads content of your emails. Didn't we have a thread in the last half a year about encryption?
I have found any provider with a Protonmail mail account is worth a second look. Its a quick check to see if they professionals even though more research is needed.