….very rarely see anyone (ie maybe 1 person a year).
I’m guessing there are not many (if any) around on here.But for any that are…
What do you miss the most?
Surprisingly, I don’t miss the money.
I have a good job and can afford to pay my bills and do the things I want to do.
I do somewhat miss meeting interesting men that I know I would never have had the opportunity to meet otherwise.
I haven’t met anyone for a few years now - and the only people I have met since leaving Boston are gents I already knew (when they came to the UK).
I had s great time when I did work in Boston and defo no regrets but I don’t miss it as much as I thought I might. I’m happy with my life… Anyone else? C
the lure to return is not as strong in retired providers as it is in retired customers. Sometimes, I think about finding some arm candy and retiring to travel the world with her, but then I snap out of it and realize I will miss the variety I get seeing providers of all types. There is plenty of time left for me to go the leisure route with only one or two women, but I do think about it more than I did 5 years ago. My civvie relationships are not serious because I tell them upfront about my provider proclivities, and they eventually lose interest in trying to tie me down, so I think I have to be at a point where I'm will to commit to a limited number of women (dare I say maybe even just ONE? Lol) for a long-term relationship to work with woman who is not from this business. I think ex-providers have a more open mind about a man's propensity for variety.
I can’t speak for everyone but your last sentence for me goes a bit like this…
I’d probably forgive someone once for cheating IF he has been careful and discreet. I wouldn’t openly agree to it though - or allow it. When I’m in a relationship, I’m all in. If the guy isn’t …what’s the point? If I’m not all in I’m honest about that. Yup I realise as an (almost) former SW that might be hypocritical but it’s just how I feel…🤷🏻♀️
C x
I have had real life relationships with providers who are still working, and one of the things we have to overcome is to agree what constitutes cheating. In most cases, we agree that transactional sex is not cheating. As long as she is getting paid and I'm paying, then we don't consider it cheating. However, if I have sex without paying, or she has sex off the clock, then it creates a cheating situation.
I realize what I said near the end was humorously exaggerated, but I'm making light of the fact that this approach that has worked in the past when dating an ACTIVE provider in creating equality cannot be transferred to a relationship with a RETIRED provider, and absolutely not with a civvie girl, either. At some point, I know I will have be monogamous, but I'm not quite ready yet, . . . . but I am thinking about it more lately. Lol
Fair points made.
I’m taking more about being out of the industry though.
If both are still in it that’s s totally different ballgame …and I think your points are totally valid
I have had real life relationships with providers who are still working, and one of the things we have to overcome is to agree what constitutes cheating. In most cases, we agree that transactional sex is not cheating. As long as she is getting paid and I'm paying, then we don't consider it cheating. However, if I have sex without paying, or she has sex off the clock, then it creates a cheating situation.
I realize what I said near the end was humorously exaggerated, but I'm making light of the fact that this approach that has worked in the past when dating an ACTIVE provider in creating equality cannot be transferred to a relationship with a RETIRED provider, and absolutely not with a civvie girl, either. At some point, I know I will have be monogamous, but I'm not quite ready yet, . . . . but I am thinking about it more lately. Lol
Civie women with high body counts, who have been chasing Chads (usually above their market value) their adult lives and never got the commitment they desired, have raised their standards to a level attainable only from Mount Olympus.
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Now in their late 30's, 40's or even 50's, the virile Chads are either married up or dating younger women. There just aren't enough top 5% men to go around. These women are in a situation where they either have to settle for lesser men, with great disappointment, or raise cats. Generally they'll chose cats over the 80% of lesser men, who essentially remain invisible to these ladies. After all, she knows her "worth" and 95% of men just don't measure up.
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Now consider a single sex worker who has probably met quite a few "catches" along with the normal mix of average men ("losers.") If she is retiring in her late 30's to 50's, in addition to her standards having ratcheted up to the "catches" she's encountered along the way, her pool is also reduced to men willing to accept her past (if she admits it.)
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Of course I expect some will say that, "Hey, I married a SW." or "Hey, I found a man." but I am talking about the average case, not the outliers.
I looked it up on the UD, and what a range of meanings.
I presume you are referring to chads who are above average males, as opposed to most of the derogatory meanings.
From the web: "A chad is someone who can elicit near universal positive female sexual attention at will. A chad tends to be between an '8' to a '10' on the decile scale, has an extremely high income and/or an extreme amount of social status. A sexually active chad has sex with a wide variety of women, and has exclusive access to Stacy. Becky wants chad but sometimes feels societal pressure not to or has low self esteem. Chad is not necessarily a male model, but all male models are chads."
I can’t speak for everyone but as long as the man is financially independent that’s all I care about.
I don’t want someone to support me (too independent) and I don’t want to support someone either…
I would say the 2 relationships I’ve had since being back in the UK we were about equal financially…
Civie women with high body counts, who have been chasing Chads (usually above their market value) their adult lives and never got the commitment they desired, have raised their standards to a level attainable only from Mount Olympus.
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Now in their late 30's, 40's or even 50's, the virile Chads are either married up or dating younger women. There just aren't enough top 5% men to go around. These women are in a situation where they either have to settle for lesser men, with great disappointment, or raise cats. Generally they'll chose cats over the 80% of lesser men, who essentially remain invisible to these ladies. After all, she knows her "worth" and 95% of men just don't measure up.
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Now consider a single sex worker who has probably met quite a few "catches" along with the normal mix of average men ("losers.") If she is retiring in her late 30's to 50's, in addition to her standards having ratcheted up to the "catches" she's encountered along the way, her pool is also reduced to men willing to accept her past (if she admits it.)
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Of course I expect some will say that, "Hey, I married a SW." or "Hey, I found a man." but I am talking about the average case, not the outliers.
If I read your post correctly, I think your question is what does a provider miss most after she retires?…
I can speak for 1 former provider who is now my best friend and life partner (Kim Dreams, if anyone must know). It was the money, and what she buy with the money. She has tried to forget everything else.
I think I’d be the same (re:money) had I not approached it the way I did from the beginning. I think most would probably say the same as your OH x
If I read your post correctly, I think your question is what does a provider miss most after she retires?…
I can speak for 1 former provider who is now my best friend and life partner (Kim Dreams, if anyone must know). It was the money, and what she buy with the money. She has tried to forget everything else.
I find it interesting how former SW see future long term guys. Sure, there will be some who chase the top 5% of guys for financial security. I may be wrong, but guys in that rarified atmosphere usually can tell if they have hooked up with a former provider who is after security, not the person. But, I also believe there are providers who, nearing retirement, are wishing to find a guy who will be a caring, considerate gentleman, who will actually give her love, as well as security. Throughout my adult life, I have had a number of women who have told me that they would love to have me for a husband, when they see how I treat my wife. Not providers, mind you, but coworkers and others. I have always told them that I’m already taken. Never played with any of them. Since I have started to “hobby”, a few providers have told me I would make a great husband. Now, really, I’m 71 and a few lbs extra around the middle. Not rich, and (though others have said I’m very handsome and don’t look or act my age) Idk how attractive I am. There are a couple providers that I could consider for the long haul, if I become single again.
I know which think I have money, so not interested. But, I can tell the women who are sincere, and I end up feeling the same. I think former providers have at least as good a shot as non SW. Maybe better. So, I think that as long as a provider is sincere, and desires a good long term relationship, it can work out.
I am assuming those complimenting you were, in fact, still single. You have to ask yourself why attractive women remain single. Generally the answer is no one available meets their standards. They know their "worth." If you ask them about guys who pursue them, they will almost always have stories about those guys that give them "the ick." Which is usually some disqualifying trivia. Have you ever seen how many women refuse to even consider guys shorter than them?
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So again, it's not that long single civie females and retired SW's can't find men, it's that they won't "settle."
attractive single females who want to have a committed relationship don’t is what I mentioned in a recent thread: it’s harder in recent years to find guys who are willing to make a commitment. The woman may find a guy who meets or exceeds their standards, but all the guy wants is a casual relationship (ie sex) that they are free to end whenever they want.
Also, there are attractive single women who simply want to stay that way.
Wish you still were among us but very glad you're happy.
Lovely comment - thanks x
Wish you still were among us but very glad you're happy.
CamilleUK,
If you need to escort in oreder to meet new guys, Then you have no game when trying to meet new guys. As far as I am concerned........Sites like this site is for Ladies who need to make money as an extra income or just as a steady income. Not to just meet new guys.
And it's fine for her to pop in even thou she's retired.
Thanks Steph - hope you are well? Xx
CamilleUK,
If you need to escort in oreder to meet new guys, Then you have no game when trying to meet new guys. As far as I am concerned........Sites like this site is for Ladies who need to make money as an extra income or just as a steady income. Not to just meet new guys.
Where did I say I couldn’t meet new guys unless I worked as an escort?
I actually said, I would not have had the opportunity to meet the guys I did otherwise…a very different situation altogether. I’m talking about men in roles that I would never have come across in day to day life.
Still laughing at the comment about having no game…hahahahahahaha