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RokkKrinn 632 reads
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All the caveats mentioned here are valid and worth considering.  A possible compromise, offered by some of the providers I see is two-tier rates.

Rather than get hung up on OTC time, these providers have "social rates"; some only make a social rate available if there is no private time involved on that same date--others are more flexible.  In any case, it makes it clear that the boundaries are still there (there's still an envelope involved), but the hobbyist is not paying the rack rate for the time.

I do have to admit that if a provider offered/was willing to get together OTC "just for lunch" or similar, I'd probably jump at it--basically because I only see providers whose company I truly enjoy--they're not just lifelike blow up rubber dolls to me.

Nice problem to have.

Has any of you  ever offered to want to see a client after a session to just have lunch etc...
Recently this happened to me and was wondering how often this may happens and should I take her up on the offer. We have seen each other many times and I always have a good time with her and do enjoy her company. thanks in advance

I've taken several providers out for a meal OTC after a session.  Usually it's at their suggestion, or they've given me a signal they're open to it.  It can be a lot of fun.

FIDCUOF688 reads

innicky-46 has seen them in the old folks home where he lives.   :  ;)   The providers come and change his diaper

So not only are you a complete asshole, but you have no game.  What a shock!  No wonder you are one of the laughingstocks of this board.

If he is single, I have done it but it is rare. I find it only leads to losing a great client, and possibly the money that comes with it. You get to a point where he does not want to pay anymore, and these offers start coming from his end. My rule of thumb is never do OTC time on a day where no Paid time is scheduled, and I have seldom ran into problems doing it this way. If a guy books me for 2 hours and I have nowhere else to be, I am happy to have a meal with him without charging him. Hell, it's a free meal, and I get to go out!

One Fav is a long drive for me.  A couple of times she made lunch for us...  declined my offers to go out.  More recently, I shop on the way there, we have a session & make a nice lunch...  a rotisserie chicken & salad has been my favorite.  She keeps the excess which is at least a couple of meals worth for her.  I go home well fed & don't risk fast food which my system seems intolerant of.

It sounds like both of you have your heads on straight, and can do such things. I often offer to cook for my suitors, because I take great pleasure in hosting, catering, and servicing. It's just how I am. I can't ever imagine being with a man who insists on me not cooking for him. It would take away so much of the real me.  

Posted By: harbor_view
One Fav is a long drive for me.  A couple of times she made lunch for us...  declined my offers to go out.  More recently, I shop on the way there, we have a session & make a nice lunch...  a rotisserie chicken & salad has been my favorite.  She keeps the excess which is at least a couple of meals worth for her.  I go home well fed & don't risk fast food which my system seems intolerant of.  

Two of my favorites explicitly offer OTC time.
Two more do not but are quite generous about not rushing.
One did offer it but could not deal with her own resentment. That led to strangeness and wackiness.

So even if it is offered you have to be careful about accepting.

one bought me lunch after I bought her lunch (because I forgot to leave the envelope). The other who was my ATF said sure let's get together for $1200. Great reality check. No longer ATF.

tg_baby659 reads

I have never been too happy I did...and in most cases I have felt the complete opposite! It generally resulted in the client becoming too presumptuous in regards to more OTC and/or him completely losing sight of the provider/client basis of the relationship. Like others said, it's a great way to lose a good client. I do continue to offer OTC to two longtime clients, and am relaxed on time w/some others. I enjoy the company of all of them, so it's fine. I never offered OTC myself except ONCE, to make up for the client accommodating a last-minute change in my schedule (that turned out very badly in the end...it became kinda routine for him to overstay and he eventually tried to start a relationship).  

I used to be more accommodating in terms of OTC when I was new and did mostly 1 hour dates. I was not used to getting paid for time spent at dinner. I had clients that would never consider paying for more than 2 hours, but I wanted to be friendly and give my loyal clients that personal, non-rushed type of service that goes with extended dates. These days a 1-hour appt is no more and most of my dates are dinner dates. So for me to offer one for free...there goes my living! Lol. But if a girl connects with a client and/or wants to enhance his experience in some way, earn the infamous 9- I forgot it was a service, or achieve backchannel accolades (whether they are explicitly promised or just perceived/expected), then she may be motivated to offer it.  

Take it if you want...just DON'T ever *expect* a minute extra again unless she specifically makes the overture. The one thing I noticed is that clients always expected the same thing or even more time in the future.

Told my ATF I had never been to a titty bar. She took me after a session it was great. Seen her many time's sense, never caused a problem.

I recently had to have  a chat with a guy I have been seeing every week for the past year,. I would hang with him and chat and he started to expect it. I then "had things to do" and then mentioned that OTC time was a gift not the norm.  Sometime the GFE illusion is taken for real.

Spent several otc hours with one lady, but I also consider her my friend.  
Hell, im old enough to be her dad.
I would have a hotel for a couple of days after our appointment and she would actually come and go from my hotel. We would shop, eat lunch, dinner, hell she would set up appointments from my room.  
She never took advantage of me or asked me for money.
Did I buy her things occasionally? Yes, because she needed it and I wanted to.
She escorted because, she not only supported herself, but the rest of her family.

However only when I suggest. I have rarely gone with a client upon his suggestion. I keep the boundaries solid and have no problem having a chat if I feel things are not right. Always gentle but firm. I will cut off a guy if he expects it though, that is pushing me past the red line,;).

And this is with very established guys, not ever on a first date.

At her invite after the session I have had lunch/dinner OTC with three of the ladies I see regularly.  

I think it's fine to do but keep a few things in mind. Don't cross the line into thinking it's a relationship. Don't expect it every time. Let it be her inviting you. I'd also add let it be after a session. Then there is no awkwardness of you getting free time and hanging out but never seeing her "on the job".  

It sounds like this is what you are asking about. She asked you after a session.  If you're OK with it go for it. How often it happens? For me like I said three of the ladies I see have offered. That is a very small percentage of the ladies I have seen. With two of them it has been after every session. With the other it was after seeing her a few times and we only went out twice. (She is no longer in the business.)

I have seen others post about asking the provider after a session if since he is going to eat would she like to go with him. He makes the OTC clear. I don't see anything wrong with that either. I haven't done it though.  

The warnings given by London and others are definitely something to consider.

NomdeAmour690 reads

That's how my ATF became my ATF. We had our first session and it was mind-blowing for me, only my second time with a provider. At the end I held her and said "I'd love to take you to lunch, but I know better than to presume", then I went to get dressed.  Suddenly she appears back from checking her messages, and says "I've had a cancellation, do you want to go have lunch?"

Since then, it's our standard procedure. We have fun, then go to lunch (rarely, dinner). Her attitude is, "I like you and I have to have lunch anyway". My attitude is, just tell me the boundaries and we'll do it however you're comfortable.

This has lasted 10 months, but we don't see each other more than monthly.

I really owe a thanks to whoever it was who cancelled that day....

AnotherPerspective618 reads

Extremely  unprofessional of her  from my perspective ,   along the lines of  asking someone you  met a few times at dinner parties  for their autograph .  

Posted By: bootyluvr1
Has any of you  ever offered to want to see a client after a session to just have lunch etc...  
 Recently this happened to me and was wondering how often this may happens and should I take her up on the offer. We have seen each other many times and I always have a good time with her and do enjoy her company. thanks in advance

ImOkYouSuck480 reads

One can not be gracious and unprofessional at the same time. And "extremely" so? Might want to look into O.A. (Overreactors Anonymous). Lighten up bro and enjoy life. Its just lunch for fuck sake with a hot chick. You should be so lucky.

usually after a paid session, never otc without a session. Has ranged from lunch/dinner, shopping, hanging out, even hiking with a fav.

RokkKrinn633 reads

All the caveats mentioned here are valid and worth considering.  A possible compromise, offered by some of the providers I see is two-tier rates.

Rather than get hung up on OTC time, these providers have "social rates"; some only make a social rate available if there is no private time involved on that same date--others are more flexible.  In any case, it makes it clear that the boundaries are still there (there's still an envelope involved), but the hobbyist is not paying the rack rate for the time.

I do have to admit that if a provider offered/was willing to get together OTC "just for lunch" or similar, I'd probably jump at it--basically because I only see providers whose company I truly enjoy--they're not just lifelike blow up rubber dolls to me.

Nice problem to have.

Thanks for the responses everyone. She was asking if we could meet or hang out on days when we are not having a session since we have a lot in common and enjoy each others company. I was thinking maybe she does not know many people around here and she knew i would not take advantage of her as i have always been a gentleman and even paid for sessions that I had to cancel on. I would never expect anything from her sexually if i decide to take her up on the offer which I probably will. I knew sometimes clients would take the ladys out to lunch after a session but was wondering about on non session days. And of course I will pick up the check. Thanks again

Lunch, dinner, or a trip to a museum with a pretty yong lady whose conversation and company I enjoy?  Why wouldn't I take that offer (even though as a gentleman I will assume I'm picking up the check).

Just be aware:  this is usually NOT an offer for OTC bed time with her, or a marriage proposal by her.  This can be a very lonely business--treat it on face value:  she enjoys your company and wouldn't mind having you as a casual friend as well as a client.

I've offered, but the offer has never been accepted.

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