Just wondering about full service bare? I see many Asian escort agencies readily provide it. What are your thoughts? Safe? What are the odds of a STD?

though many get lucky, the odds are NOT in your favor. wrap it before you tap it, y'all.

Like many other things in life, the real threat likely isn't the dramatic one.  Let's step back and consider the risks in this hobby assuming safe practices.  Sure, there are risks of getting busted, of getting STDs, of getting skin rashes, etc.  But most of us might end up with a cold or perhaps the flu at worst from visiting with a provider or client.  

You'll be good to go until it's not and then it's too late.  Prep may help avoid contracting HIV but the other STI's are spreading at alarming rates.  Prep might be one of the most damaging wonder drugs ever made.  

It’s your body. If you understand the risks/odds and want to take a chance, you need to be prepared to live with the consequences. Odds are you will be fine. The more you do it, the greater the chance you eventually lose. You need to decide, is the reward really worth the risk?

discussed, brought up, and argued about ad nauseam!!
And it's almost always about Kgirls.

The odds are better than you think.  How many clients does your BB provider see every week ?  How many other BB providers do those clients see?  Do the math, its exponential.  Probably no different than playing Russian Roulette with a .38

If you even have to ask that question it shows that you can't think very clearly about the risks you take in life.

Just find one who promises she only does it for you.

I'm not completely sure if you're asking if BBFS, regardless of who you engage with, is safe or if you're asking if it's safe to visit an agency that advertises BBFS.

In my experience-----you are at greater risk with a "Civilian" than you are with an "Escort".......Especially with a gal you have just picked up at "Johnny's Hideaway" or the new girl at the office......!!!   Think about it !

Think of as playing Russian roulette. There's 4 bullets in the in a 6 round cylinder  
How do you feel about those odds??🤔🤔

Even with all these rational responses about the extensive risks, BBFS is still readily available. I will never understand those who don't listen to all the good reasons why it isn't in their best interests and usually pay an upcharge on top of it.

LOL

I won't see a provider if I even get the notion that she does BBFS.

People are going to do what they want to do regardless how often you tell them not to, outside situations where you can actually control their actions. Or differently, "This is the USA, everyone has the right to be as stupid as they want."

The question you have to ask yourself is, do you feel lucky?

That's like asking why people drink or smoke or eat unhealthy food even though they know it's bad for them.

You actually brought up a really good point. Everyone in America wants freedom to make their own decisions, but Americans really hate taking responsibility for said freedom. One I see now that keeps popping up would be the ease to participate in online gambling. So many people *wanted* this, but now that it is readily available the same people are shouting that it is too easy to blow through your life savings and somehow this is the government's fault. Or the idea that everyone should have the "right" to go to college or buy a house, but now we have a ton of people with 50K+ of student loan debt and we as a society now know that allowing everyone and their little brother to buy a home caused our entire housing market to collapse and took years to get stable again. HIV research and medications have advanced astronomically, but now we have created STD "super bugs" from people forgoing condom use and relying on antibiotics that are no longer effective. I guess the moral of the story is don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose, don't take out a loan for anything you can't pay back, and don't have unprotected sex unless you are mentally and financially prepared to get a disease you will have for the rest of your life or an incurable infection that could have been prevented with a condom that costs less than $1.

solution to all your issues

I don't recall the last time I saw a random person post anywhere asking if it is "safe" to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and eat a whole pizza for dinner. But for some reason we do see random people post every month or so if it is safe to forgo condoms when visiting a sex worker. Where do you think the dissonance is located?

BBFS is available because the game has changed with prep and doxy.  

I don't know if they're desperate to hear enough people say "It's ok, now" because it's something they are doing currently or trying to justify engaging in it.  There's nothing new to discuss on it imo other than the lesser sti's are getting stronger and Prep is going to turn out to be a trojan horse.

I was answering the "why do people do it if they know it's bad for them" question.

I spend my time with a small circle of known providers who attest to being on PrEP. We've talked about it, and they seem to know the drill.

I wouldn't recommend it, but it's your dick and none of my business.

And I never will!!

Did it with a lady that I had seen like four times and she had a lover and was slowly getting out of hobby ut we came friends and I went BB with no consequences

...monogamous relationship where both halves been tested and the woman is on birth control....

The fact is people lie & cheat.

Its safe when you are on prep and doxxy. And asking for a test beforehand.

Some real questions here for you.  You openly talk about not using condoms (your life, of course!) and also openly talk about not seeing providers that require any sort of screening and also don't require, or even offer, for condoms to be used. How exactly are you obtaining the STI test results from these "'providers"? You have also said you have been seeing several providers for *years* and that you don't trust them. How does these STI test results that you are asking for come into play in those situations that you state you clearly don't trust the provider?  
And yes, using Prep and Doxxy is actually as safe as using condoms every time safe when BOTH partners are using it consistently and correctly. How are you obtaining the test results and confirming all of these "providers" are also using Prep and Doxxy and also have negative test results?  

To answer your question, i talk with provider, she shows me id and shows me test results along with prep rx. Its pretty standard these days?  

What isn’t really spoken about is hookers in the upper-mid and upper tier…ladies where two hours is ~$1,400+. BBFS is often offered. Sure, the girls will tell you they test monthly and it’s at their discretion…if you’re not Shrek, book at least two hours and at least a semi-regular. And there’s a network of them…best way to be introduced to others is double with a lady you know.  

I'm assuming "doxxy" (sic) refers to doxycycline.  

Tell me you dont know how prep works without telling me you dont know how prep works.

Difference today is:

Its safer to go into a bbfs setting while fully dosed on prep and doxy than to get into one of those Waymo driverless vehicles.

Just an opinion---no basis in research or facts....however----you are probably less at risk with an Escort (unless you go real low end ) that the cute gal that just came to work in the accounting department when it comes to unprotected sexual intercourse......and for a Variety of Reasons....Figure it out !

I know how it works and it's not 100% effective. It does nothing for STI prevention either.

According to AI:

Thats what doxy is for.  

What about the herp or genital warts? Do you care about that as well?

I already mentioned antibiotic resistant bacterial strains so I don't need to hear about doxycycline.

Nope. Already got the herp, had it since the 80s.  

That is an instant UTI for a woman. If you have ANY woman that allows you to do this they are beyond desperate for cash. The rectum contains e-coli. The urinary tract is sterile. The urinary tract in a woman is very close to the vaginal tract.  
UTI's are extremely painful and it actually makes me sad that you are obviously targeting women that are so desperate for cash that they will allow you to do this. Targeting drug addicted women or those so desperate for cash that they will do anything is not a flex, it is diabolical. Be a better human.

"Don't go from stink to pink."
This guy clearly knows zero about...well...anything.

Id hate to break it to you but most of the women ive reviewed allow this. Only a few dont.  

Sounds like your fave is kinda a square. Because double dipping is one of the perks of this hobby.  

So, yeah. Again, not a flex. You are the company that you keep.  But again, you do you.

Wow! So you openly are admitting that you are giving genital herpes to all of the "providers" that you see.  
Most humans would not openly admit that on a sex worker website, but yeah, again, you do you.  
So stunning and brave. Er, yeah. Something like that.

Of course, she and a GF did rape a buddy of mine in an LV bathroom while another watched. But, yeah, a square.
PS: A word to the unwise. I assume you never try to book using this handle. Because I have no doubt your antics here of late have put you on numerous DNS lists.

Well, they don't care about you either. Dude, I'm very into Western medicine, but long-term PReP and long-term doxycycline use WILL ultimately kill you before an STI. Moreover, you will NOT be a beautiful corpse.  

He said he was done here a couple of days ago, after receiving constant abuse and he has not been seen since. Good riddance. But thanks for the info.

I've had ass to pussy to mouth back to any orifice sex before with someone who wasnt into drugs or even desperate for cash.  

Personally, years ago I know that I also did some things that weren't safe. I was lucky not to suffer the consequences. But the medical facts surrounding this are clear and irrefutable. And they have nothing to do with "putting down fellow sex workers."

I'm arguing that Scarlets postulate that if providers do ass to pussy, then they must either be drug addicts or desperate, is a false one.

And I've noticed you do a lot of that here. You should realize that, even though it's reading between the lines, your description of what you HAVE done certainly makes it sound like you think it's safe.
For the record, I'm glad you clarified this. I was starting to think you were Readytorock's little brother. That would not be a good thing.
Hello?

I do like to argue. You do too, so hey!

Also, your follow-up question has nothing to do with what I actually said. So, again, nice dodge.

I am not  insulting the providers that provide this service, the intent of my post was to shame the men that prey on desperate women that would provide this service (and it is ass to pussy that is the issue, fyi) without condoms. This then puts these women at a very high risk for contracting a painful UTI, bacterial or yeast infection from the transfer of e-coli bacteria.

I didn't dodge anything. I was saying how scarlets statement of if a provider goes ass to pussy means the provider is either an drug addict or desperate for cash.  

First of all, now you're just repeating yourself. So I'll just stand on what I already said.
Then you spuriously claim that I "just barged in." Gosh, I thought this was a discussion board where we all had the right to express our opinion. I guess I was wrong.
And then you get really hilarious, claiming you're an only child. If this is the best you can do in debate, my work is done here.
You really need to follow the oft-repeated advice that "when you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is stop digging."
I doubt you're wise enough to take that advice, so, as a gesture of mercy I grant you the last word. You seem to need that.
So take it...

You claimed I "dodged" something. Hence my only child comment, I made sure to address absolutely everything you said, including the retarded statement of me being readytorock sibling. So you can't possibly claim I dodged any dumb shit you posted. If this means addressing every sentence of your post so be it.  

Some providers do provide this service readily and like the services themselves.

If you don't feel you are preying on desperate women and everything is consensual there is no reason for you to feel the need to explain yourself.  

You do not know what I said was false. I have read your reviews so I am familiar with the sandbox you play in. If a provider you have seen would like corroborate your comment that she indeed really enjoyed having anal sex without a condom and then having vaginal sex without a condom and then having to deal with the bacterial transfer aftermath and was not desperate for the money or is suffering from a drug addiction she is more than welcome to do so. I have never done this with a client but I did do this with a boyfriend in my early 20s. It was extremely painful and I had to take multiple rounds of antibiotics to clear up a UTI as well as a bacterial vaginal infection. So unless we have an actual provider chime in and confirm that they do this all the time just for funsies I will stand by my original post.

FWIW, had a friend who needed to replace both his hips because of the necrosis causd by PReP.  Not common, but not unheard of.  

He'll only shut up when he gets the last word. Please see above.

Jesus Christ. I will stick to rubbers.

Katie, thank you for your contribution of FACTS to this thread. It's appreciated!

By generalizing your statement and making it sound like all the sex workers doing ass to pussy bare are either junkies or desperate, you are talking out of your ass. When there are providers who do this and are neither desperate or junkies.  

Sounds to me like this professional doesnt quite grasp what kind of sex is regularly being had outside of her bubble. And thats just the truth.

You dont have a clue what you are jammering on about, but thanks for the kind words.

you don't want to do it with a partner that offers it ....and you want to do it with someone who doesnt !  .....

the influence, did she Ruffie you?
Was her TKD too good to kick her ass?
Could happen with a P2P slide, but she grabbed you!
Why didn't you have her arrested and charged with rape.
Or better yet sue her for, OMG, mental anguish^^!

this?

🤣 These Can Not be Serious questions I’m sorry. This Has to be a joke.  The answer is No. Use condoms that’s why they are made

Or use prep and doxy as that is why they were invented.

Why do you continue to push drugs that only offer partial protection as an alternative to condoms which are a safer and healthier choice?

Im not pushing anything. Im just letting others know what options are out there as it seems that many on here dont quite know how widely in use these drugs are.

Indeed personally would not want to deal with the side  effects of doxy (and it still I don’t believe would protect a provider from getting UTI’s or semen allergies) but if others want to use it it’s their choice
Some side effects: Common side effects of doxycycline include gastrointestinal upset (nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain), esophageal irritation, and sun sensitivity. Other common effects include rash, dizziness, and yeast infections (oral or vaginal). Serious, rare side effects include severe skin reactions, liver damage, or increased brain pressure.

That’s some pretty idiotic logic there. You really think an escorts who has bareback sex for money is “a pro who knows how to protect themselves”?  If she actually a pro who cared about herself or her clients or had any basic health education, the first thing she would do is not have bareback sex with clients. If she’s a kgirl she probably doesn’t have any choice, and if she’s not a kgirl she’s probably an addict who only cares about getting her next fix, not whether she’ll have HIV in 3 years.  

I have been lucky enough to see several Porn Stars who provided bare services, but only if you had been tested within the last 7-10days. The one most use is called talent testing and then when you arrive for your date you and her both show your testing date and results. Since then I have asked a couple of other girls I see if they would be willing to do that and two did. I paid an upcharge and it worked out great.

Typically most of the girls I’ve seen were ok with mutual testing especially after becoming a regular. I paid for it and tipped.

I bareback and let trans women cum in my ass. I am on PrEP and take Doxypep.