I have been married for over 20 years! The last year has been sexless. So in the last year I have seen 5 different escorts several times. I have been with one that is just what I want!! What is the chance I can make her mine? She is close to my age and we love all the same things. She tells me everything and shows me pics of her kid. So do you all think?

1. Get a divorce. No sex for over a year is grounds for divorce.
2. Tell the escort you can only pay her half her rate, since your ex has half of your money.
3.  Think with your big head and realize she is milking you by providing the fantasy.

You're living in a fantasy world.  Don't go for it because you'll mess up a good thing.

Where did you get that detailed clinical assessment ? The DSM ?!

John, another thing---------your thread contained only THREE SHORT SENTENCES ?!

I'm worried about you , bro'---------

OK mister, who are you and what have you done with our johngalt?

Just be discreet and keep a foot in each world.

You are still in the honeymoon phase of things.  Will you still be interested in a year?  What's the hurry?

Divorce is very expensive, both on your pocketbook and your nerves.  I know because I've done it.

Discuss this with a professional at the very least before you do anything rash.

read him the 'Marriage Salvation' ACT.

Thought 'I' drank too much.

I bet you LG would slap the shit out of this delusional bastard.

I've lost track of how many "I've fallen for a provider and I can't get up" posts we've had here.

Maybe we should start a new "How to date a professional sex provider" board?

jeffhead4ever"I have been married for over 20 years! The last year has been sexless."

Maybe for you, but not for her.
 More often than not,after  years of marriage  husbands become caught up in their careers,no longer notice their wives desiring attention, other than sexual. You don't even look in her eyes anymore. Of course, she doesn't want sex with you, but she does with the wife fucker  that listens to her.

I'll stand up and call him the delusional sap that he is. lol

LP how many of these "I've fallen for a provider and can't get up" posts do you think you see on a weekly basis?

One thing to hobby, and get laid.  Another to attempt a relationship beyond that.  Think before you leap, especially if you have kids.  Before you throw your wife under the bus, is there anything you can do to rescue things?

but it is fallacious to predict individual outcomes on the basis of statistical trends. pardon me while i go back to bed. this is putting me to sleep. zzzzzzz snort snort zzzzzz..............

You really wanna know? I think you are nuts.

Ditch the escorts and go figure out why your wife won't fuck. Exhaust your options for fixing that first.

Hey, you asked.

apparently you think the OP might not be too old to grow up.

that would be good, if true. surely it is dull to expect that things (relationships) will always stay the same. it is also stupid to expect to live without learning something new.  eventually there is a lesson.... i think the OP is enrolling in a "crash course". you are kind to be so explicit with the syllabus.

You have no clue what she really thinks about you, or what she actually likes and dislikes. Sheesh! The whole point of the session is to make you think that she thinks you are wonderful and agrees with you about everything. The best ladies (the ones we keep seeing) are the ones that can completely maintain the illusion. We all wish that we could find a GF or SO who found every little thing about us so wonderful.  Unless you have spend days and days totally off the clock doing normal "friend" stuff, you have no idea if she even likes you! Unless she has told you that she never wants you to bring an envelope again, you are a client. You may be a wonderful client in her eyes. She may genuinely look forward to seeing you, and may truly enjoy her time in the sack with you. She probably feels exactly the same about other clients.

If you try to nudge her into another form of relationship, you are only causing complications for her. She wants to keep you as a client, after all. If she has the slightest non-business interest in you, she will make it perfectly clear.

I assume you are also dating other (non provider) women?  If not, why not?

If you are going to leave your marriage, check out ALL your options.

Paid sex is not a girlfriend, dude.  You don't go to restaurants and expect the chef to start having you over to his house for dinner, do you?   Assume nothing just because she shows you pics.

That said, these are normal women.  Treat her like one.  If you want to take her out on a (real) date, just ask her.  But consider whether any woman you met any other way would want to date a married guy who sees prostitutes as soon as he gets bored.  And don't be surprised if she says no.  If she has any sense, she will.  Would you advise your sister to get involved with you?  If you really love her, dude, you'll consider what's best for her before you try to exploit her trust.

Did you forget this is P4P. She's doing her job! Go over to the Erotic Highway and do a search, youll find your answer.  

That's why they do this, afterall, because they are all having trouble finding men to date. If you love all the same things there is no way it could go wrong. And if she shows you pictures of her kid, she MUST be in love with you. Yes, go for it, be her man.

Just don't try to convince her to quit her current job, because some of us might still wanna fuck her sometimes. Cool?

Its time to gnaw off your leg and get out of the beaver trap, my friend.  You still have another leg, so be thankful for that, and hobble into another set of steel jaws.  If this new lady stops having sex with you, at least she'll be having it with someone else.  RIght now you are in a half empty glass and you need to be in a half full glass.  Trust us, we only want what is best for you.  Now go out there and get her!

I see a lady that is awesome. I have fantasies of running away together, marriage, whatever. I wont do it and she wont either. It is a (mostly) unspoken agreement that we are showing each other the best sides of ourselves. We fall in love for a couple hours then go back to our lives. I know about her life and she knows about mine, but we don't intrude and cross boundries and in that way preserve the relationship. This game has rules for a reason, follow them!

So wrap that rascal and as the song goes, don't fall in love (if you do you'll find out she don't love you)

There, my good deed for the day, now I can go be an asshole as usual

But are you really johngaltnh? The johngaltnh on this board does not know how to keep it short. You must have done something to the real johngaltnh. Please return him to us as I am out of books to read on my phone and I need him to provide me with some new ones. LOL

We know how much experience I have in that field!

I have three jobs.Unfortunately, all of the wives available for free, are not desirable.

The poor guy is in love.  Somebody?  Anybody?  What, you didn't think it was gonna be me, did you?

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it is ALWAYS fallacious to predict individual outcomes on the basis of statistical trends. the only case in which it can be done is when there is NO individual variation: i.e. there is an average (or a mean) and there are no individual differences. that is the variance is identically zero.

predicting individual outcomes from some statistical average is a well known FALLACY of statistical reasoning. folks who do not understand logic and statistical reasoning make the mistake all the time. if they didn't, Las Vegas casinos would never be a profitable enterprise.

the fact that this is P4P is irrelevant. the OP's provider friend on the other hand may NOT be doing her job. or the OP may simply be deluded.

what i am quite sure about is that on the basis of the OP's story, (which is very, very thin) one CANNOT sort out what is going on here. he needs to go talk to an expert, a therapist and sort out his relationship muddle with some individualized attention.

now i'm going to back to my nap....   zzzzzzz   snort ZZZZZZZ

the best i can do is say his story is thin and that we really don't have the details and cannot judge. sorry it's the best i can do. i'm bored. the only entertainment this thread is providing is a discussion of logical and statistical fallacies that undercut "common sense" reasoning.

so why not give it a go? it might be a stretch, but..... what the heck?

With myself! WTF!

As a matter of fact I'm on my way to do a little shopping. Seems a little blonde girl from LV is on her way and making a stop in lil ol NM for some fun time with Mikey tomorrow.

LP, you what I'm sayin'!

However, even in that is the case, he's still nuts.

But, in case you're not.

I believe that we should pursue any relationship that we think enriches our lives.

But, relationships are di?ferent. If you and your ATF make each other happy with a P4P relationship that creates boundaries you can live with, why not leave it at that and also enjoy things about your wife other than sex? Or maybe you can deal with having a provider as an SO- it's not for the faint of heart. Or maybe she'll quit and you two can live a happy life together. Or maybe it'll be intensely great for a while and then intensely bad.

Which decision maximizes benefits and minimizes risk?

Or, you could be honest with your wife and tell her what you plan on doing and let her make up her own mind about the relationship.

i've seen this before, i was friends with a provider who had a guy like you. she enjoyed the time she had with the guy and i understood her point of view in believing she was just providing a fantasy for him. but from what she told me, he was in way deep.  i asked her one question, would you ever see him for free, just you as you and he as he, no pay?  well, her answer made my point. it was a NO.  she didn't see it as her leading him on or taking advantage of the guy, she was just doing her job  in giving him the fantasy he wanted. in a way thats a pretty bitch way to think, but in another, she is right, she is just doing her job, so who is really to blame. the one who provides the fantasy she is being paid to provide?  or the guy who buys too much into the fantasy and starts believing it is real.

you have a family, you sure you want to throw it away?  not saying that it couldn't be the best decision you ever made, but the chances of that are pretty slim.

I guess I better get a second job...

Meeting her in a hotel room for an hour, is a hell of alot different,than spending civie time with at her home or where ever.
I know,been there,done that!
It may work,but you must also realize,it may not.
She may be someone completely different than you thought she was!!!(more than likely,she will be!)

you have fallen for one of the ladies.  Remember Dude, it is their job to make you feel important, like a king, and have a wonderful time.  She has succeeded in spades.  We pay the ladies to leave after the hour or 2 appointment.

My suggestion is to get more experience in the P4P arena.  You also don't say how complicated a divorce might be.  Kids?, financial situation? etc.

And you know this!

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But I gotcha. That would be absurd to make me a mod of any board!

You, I am just speaking my thoughts in an open arena.. As you do..
I believe Ive earned a few rights here to speak my mind as long as I am being honest, unhurtful, and keeping my opinion on topic..
Im tight with my close female providers.. Cindy spice, and other ladies in and out of the hobby..
I prefer to stay with the "HO's before the bro's'
I love to enjoy my men in bed but when it really counts its my female friends that carry me through my daily trials and tripulations(in my daily grind)..
TER.. is truly for the hobbyists.. PLURAL..
I find TER has allowed me to be successful and to this board I owe respect and am grateful ..
maybe that clarifys a bit for how I respect the MODS/the admin/the hobbyists/the providers/etc..
the oldtime hobbyists I revere.. and the oldtime courtesans/hos': ) are my mentors
LL

the minute one of my hobbyists who are covered(bagged) lol .begin the process of fornication.. "tight" is what comes to most minds..: )
a bit of play on words yet,Im sure the idea is being conveyed..
It is sunday and I would apreciate MP no "wtf" emails/pms/etc..
remember opinions are like "A" holes everyone has them!! : )))
make it a great day to all...
sincerely
Lorena

However the odds of making a life together are very small.   I can not say it can NEVER happen but it is sure rare.   This topic comes up regularly on The Erotic Highway....  Search for "Help, I've Fallen for a Provider"   This is pay for play, not a dating service.   It is HER JOB to make you feel this way.  You have no way to know where the illusion stops & reality begins.  

Do you expect her to stop providing?  Are you going to get divorced & marry her?  Be her total support?   Think on this long & hard.    
Be very careful,
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