I have seldom seen so much vitriol wasted on such a silly subject.  Cleanliness is an absolutely minimal requirement for both hobbiest and provider.  A provider is no more obligated to endure filth and stench because she is getting paid than a hobbyist is obliged to to ignore running sores because he is getting laid.  What is the debate?  Take a shower, everyone.  This is a date and very good things can happen if both parties approach it respectfully and with some awareness of the needs and desires of the other.  (This doesn't address a special session in which stink is part of the contract...I don't condemn that, but it ought to made clear up front and agreed to).  Communicate, expect the best, and offer the best and you won't go far wrong.

I know I'll probably get my head handed to me on this but it is us guys who are paying to be in the ladies company.  Yes, some of us show up dirty and that is a negative for all of us guys - the old saying one apple ruins the whole bunch...BUT, is that or is that not one of the criteria for YMMV?  In a perfect world if twins show up (at different times) and one is dirty and the other is clean the clean one will have a better time.  There is no YMMV for me when I've already become a customer and the woman I'm with is naked and we are hot steamy and I go for a trip downstairs and I need a tv timeout to clear my head.  At that point it is too late for me to leave and part of my enjoyable experience has been stiffled.  My only option then is to post a review and then get flamed.  Most women in the hobby have absolutely zero issues with cleanliness but when it does happen it really sucks.

As to the princess factor, it is real and it also ruins an expereince, at least for me...I'm in my late 20's and tend to gravitate to women in the hobby that are a little older because they generally (at least in my experience) tend to offer a great package of services that are augmented by a more secure, down to earth attitude.  Of course, there are some younger providers that fit that bill as well.

Lastly, if I show up and want to simply lay on my back and not be overly involved that should be ok as well...after all, I am a paying customer...maybe that's my fantasy, to be completely taken care of by a woman...it really doesn't matter...my participation or lack thereof affects my enjoyment in a session and probably has a chilling effect on GFE but if that's what I want that's ok.

No matter how you slice it, when all the pampering and applause and name calling and flowery reviews have been cleared away, it's still a business.  

The guy pays the money, the gal provides the service.

If the guy wants a Rolls, he pays bigger bucks than if he wants a Chevy.  He still gets a mode of transportation from point A to point B.  If he gets all he wants an needs from a Chevy that's where it ends.  If he can afford the Rolls he still may choose the Chevy because he just doesn't get all stired up over the bells and whistles.  If he can't afford the Rolls he has little else to do than choose the Chevy.

If the gal wants to be a Rolls she must provide "bells and whistles".  When she does she will probably attract some gents just because others can't get afford her.  But she must remember that both the Rolls and Chevy provide the same basic service.  She must also remember that if a guy buys a Rolls he is more likely than not to expect something more than the Chevy: no bitch and moan, nothing but all smiles and glowing warmth.  Complete attention to detail and to him.

If you act like high maintenance you must perform like it.  

The car doesn't rate the buyer, the buyer rates the car.

If you read all my posts..

What I am trying to say that respect is a 2-way street. REGARDLESS of who is paying what. Also, No amount of money in the world is worth it to a woman to be treated like a dirt.Also, there is nothing wrong with a woman being a bit picky. That is why I like to communicate before I meet to find out what he is expecting. You will be surprised that I do know some providers who do this, and their self-esteem is high, by being "pro-active".  As a client, wouldn't you want to be with a woman who wanted to be with you??? PIB's (pig in a blanket- mentality) complain all the time that lady did this or that, but maybe if men have communicated more before going into the session, they can realize what type of woman she may be. Men should start being more pro-active (which requires more than laying down the money), and that I can applaud . Why should I go into a session, if the gentleman that I am supposed to meet, is not going to get my 100% effort into it. Nor, should you men go into session without knowing the rules of the lady. To me, then that would be a waste of your money, if she doesn't want to do certain things. As far as I remember, there are 2 people in the room, not one. Until that day the law of mathematics changes, that 1 plus 1 equals 1, that my feelings as a woman/provider do not ever count, then I will always voice my concerns.

Thanks!

OH, and p.s.- I hope that tone didn't disturb ya






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Hi! :) I am a PIG

I am a smelly, rude, and obnoxious man I love knowing that woman will always put up with my bullcrap attitude, for it gets me hard. Sometimes you will see me around on the street, scratching my ass in public, but I don't care, for I don't have any manners. My mama never taught me any, so I use street smarts: I don't wash, I fart all day long and I never wipe my butt. OH the ladies LOVE it when I pull down my drawls and there are skid marks going everywhere! EVEN SOME ON MY BACK..yummy!)) I bet they just love the aroma of my crap just seeping out of my underwear. See, I don't know how to wipe myself properly, so I use these ladies are doormats, and how they love wiping me down. That is what they are getting paid for. See women have no feelings at all. I believe it says so somewhere in the bible (forgive me, I am just learning how to read, I know it's there listed somewhere!). Women are just like my substitute MOMs These ladies adore me! When I call them and tell them I am coming over, for some reason, they hang up on me, BUT, I feel that they are just sooooooooooooooooooo excited to know that I am coming by, for they love to clean up my mess that I made in my undies ALL men should be like me . It doesn't matter that what we men say or do, women are there for our pleasure only. I just love my hairy bush below, because it turns me on with her trying to find my little willy. Yes, it's small and under 6 inches, but I don't care. I love how she makes that face, when the stench of my funk reaches her nose. AGAIN! She is getting paid to smell, touch, and lick me down there, and besides, I love my funky smell See I just want to lay there and do what pigs do: sqeal (oops, I am just learning how to speal)  everytime she makes me cum after 3 minutes.  For this warrants respect. Don't you agree my fellow brothers out there? BTW, thanks for all of the hi-fives out there. It's great to know that us men are kings of our castle and our women.





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No, he is a pig pretending NOT to be one ;)

TOO bad there is no drug out there that can change a pig into a man. Maybe the bitch in me, will develope it

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