Besides hygiene and manners, what would be your ideal session?(regardless of payment options)

Hate to tell you the cold hard truth(+hbyst)....they're not here for fun and games.

Actually, no I'm not.  As I said, while money is important, as a skilled sex trade worker/provider of some sort, if your fees were paid and there is gonna be fun, how would they like to have said fun.  I'm not suggesting a romantic connection, just a purely physical one.

I drop the envelope she provides the fantasy and rocks my world for the predetermined length of time and then we part company, without any of the relationship bullshit attached. Sure, I hope she enjoys herself, it makes the fantasy better, but I sure don't want some woman thinking it's anything more than a perfect arrangement.  

I hear ya.  But you yourself said, you hope she enjoys it too.  That's all I'm asking.  How do we make it ideal for both of us, no relationship, just physically.

Yep...you did.

Get off your soapbox.  I'm sure that while money is the reason that MOST gals get into the line of work, they are still people and they still have preferences.  There are many ways to earn a living besides sex, so you might have to like it just a little bit to be good at it

If it were me, I would want hot!!!!! Young, fit, and I can unabashedly tell  him what I want and what I don't want. None of this taking it because he is paying shit. Most mongers are not young, and so far from fit it is astounding. Plenty of ladies don;t see young in this p4p BECAUSE they can get out of control. If there was no money she could smack the young stud up side the head and ask for what she wants instead of taking ONLY what he wants.  

No argument there at all.

I steer them in the direction of old, fat and so out of shape that taking a breath is a challenge.

You just have to appear to like it. And be good at it.

besides JUST the cash, is to engage YOU in a relationship?

What her type is. Dude there are lesbians on here raking in the cash and a dick is the very last thing they want for real. In fact one of the top 100 here is a dyke. Gorgeous but not into cock.  

Seems they've needed to adopt that mentality.

You're a little on the low estimate of that

I would suspect there are many others that you/we don't know about, the chances that only 1% of the top 100 are dykes is rather doubtful IMO.

Now there are women for which this is the best of both worlds, they get a lot of dick AND they make money, but I can't imagine, despite what they say that the percentage can be very high, and the women that are telling the truth that they really like getting fucked by old, fat, smelly guys, can't really have any standards. Kind of like the guys that give out 10/10s like candy, so maybe they deserve each other. lol

Or anyone who has a job, for that matter? And, if we assume someone is in this business for "more than the money" why draw the conclusion this "other reason" is to engage in a relationship with a client

I don't assume that any gal is in this gig for anything more than the money.  And certainly not looking for a relationship with a client...aside from a P4P SD/sb deal.

It was for what the WOMEN like.  Now I know that I can't prevent anyone from answering, but for craps sake I wasn't asking guys to give me cynical opinions about hookers.  Yes I know there are lesbian providers who hate cock, yes I know 99% of all providers are in it for the money.  Yes I know there are more reasons than money or relationships or sex for that matter that bring women into the biz.

I remember a Thai agency where I got to be rather friendly with the owner and who had rather lax rules about "dating" clients, I personally was dating one of her girls, and virtually every lady that worked for her had a BF and almost every one of them was a former or even current client.

Several of the 15-20 of the girls I got to be friends with ended up getting married to former clients. Some obviously for green cards, but I think a couple of the marriages were genuine.

In my many years in Latin America, especially Costa Rica, I've encountered many "semi pros" who had full time jobs and would only "work" on the weekends, I have been with many of them who refused pay, they didn't really want to be hookers, they were looking for rich gringos to be their "novio"

To a lesser degree I have also seen this with good old red blooded American girls who do this for a living, but deep down are looking for a "nice guy" to take care of them, and many of them get their wish. Or at least they think they do, most of these "nice" guys really aren't that fucking nice when it comes right down to it.

Seems like you've described it in your post.

The MONEY. Then HYGIENE and the fact he is not a murdering asshole. Hows that?

When you say: "I don't assume that ANY gal is in this gig for ANYTHING more than the money", you (appear to be) making an assumption that the ONLY reason ANYone is business is because of the money ALONE.

and yes I agree that this is not the place to be looking for LTR's, but it happens a lot more than you might think, and often it's the woman that's the one looking for it.

and with the overall divorce rate at somewhere around 50% who says that marrying a hooker or a john gives you any worse odds than that nice virgin you met in church?

Whatever dude, I give up.

I'm working up the grant documents as we write this.

I agreed with your synopsis overall.  The primary reason why a gal is here is to make money, which in turn allows her the freedoms that she otherwise wouldn't have available to her through other avenues.

Exactly the audience I was looking to ask.

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The other hookers didn't want to get involved in such a stupid question.

I was going to start a thread today around this idea....

Unfortunately, young, hot, and fit many times equates to rude, arrogant, and "wham, bam, thank you ma'am"...the older gents (usually 35-40 and over) are more respectful, have better hygiene, and actually know how to converse. While the money is a large determinant for ladies in this business, you can not keep doing this just for the money if you do not enjoy some aspects of it.  

LOL, thank you!

men don't try to negotiate LOL.

I don't see how meeting as a hooker/john is a "non trustworthy" start, unless of course one or both are married and cheating. Aside from that, paying for sex is a pretty honest transaction, unlike meeting a stripper or gold digger I might add. and gold diggers come in all shapes, sizes and from all lines of work.

As long as both parties are honest, (big "if" I know) I don't see why these types of marriages should have any higher a failure rate than the dismal rate for "traditional" marriages.

Umm, do you have a vagina?  Was I EVER asking your opinion?  So now who's the moron?  Quit calling people names whom you have no idea who they are or their level of intelligence.  If I want a ladies opinion I ask for it.  If they don't want to answer, well then, its a dead thread.  Instead you have single handedly tried to speak for all hookerdom, oh, yeah, you and one other guy.  Just because you think you know it all and have a couple of supporters, it doesn't make you an expert.  It makes you a blowhard and a bully.

"You've read numerous articles where the women confirm that they simply love this lifestyle.  But you still need to ask them questions to really believe that they truly meant it."

But perhaps I am. Can't she just love her job? I love mine. I know for sure that I'm within the top 5% of my profession. I'm very good at what I do, and you know the saying "do what you love and you'll never WORK a day in your entire life". So maybe the women I see really do love what they do and they're just like me. But honestly, when I look at myself in the mirror I question how any hot (non desperate or non goldigging) woman could say "oh I gotta have that", put on top of that, I'm just average in size and c'mon really, does she really want to satisfy me and make me feel like the king that I'm not? Logic tells me that it's an act, and that's wonderful if she's a great actress and sells the fantasy, that is after all why I pay her well.

Thanks for the honest answer!

An honest answer

Posted By: TaylorSteele

men don't try to negotiate LOL.  
   
 

Not here where you can't say shit even if your mouth was full of it for fear of a negative review. I am in great shape and the last thing I want is some fat dude humping on me. I want eye candy that I tell what I want and how I want it.

If the ladies had chimed in about their likes and dislikes, I would have followed the thread there instead, but they didn't.

I don't mind being blamed for the shit I actually cause, but I actually "got" your point, but no one seemed to be interested in discussing it so I went along with the flow. That's what happens on an internet board like this, you can start a thread in a certain direction, but if no one wants to go there, don't blame me. I am quite capable of being a blowhard and a bully as well, but I only accept blame for the trouble I cause, not on the rare times when I am innocent. lol

behind the scenes. But you don't.

Sounds like we'll need a larger sampling to work with.

GaGambler, was not talking about you, as you say, you followed where the thread led, which was exactly where ChgoCPA wanted it to go! away from its original intent.  My comments were directed at him, not you.

Lifetime once a month sessions. I figure four of them will die before I do.

Oprah?

I like it when he acts like a boyfriend. I got married and became a mother pretty young and only dated one guy before him, so I didn't get a lot of the wining and dining or "newness". XH was not very affectionate either. I feel like I missed out on an important and fun part of adulthood. I'm not looking for a step-father for my kids, but it's nice to have a temporary boyfriend for an evening. It's a fantasy for me too. Incall is good for the money, but dinner date outcall is where the fun is at. Something about the whole "treats me like a lady in public and fucks me like a slut in private" is very appealing. Well, and obviously I like food. lol  

'fan'. lol  

seems to be that 50% of providers are only able to connect with and truly enjoy sex with men they find physically desirable.  

a man can communicate well, especially by email prior to meeting. Seduction for me begins in the mind. During the encounter, if the pre-engagement communication is good, it's like meeting an old friend. Hygiene is of course important, as is a generally kind disposition. Passion is a bonus!! I am completely, 100% yours during the time you've reserved with me. I love when gents can play with that fully and unreservedly in the spirit in which it's meant to be enjoyed. A small token of your temporary affection will never go unnoticed (or unrewarded). One of the best things is when my gent mentions something I've mentioned on my blog or my website, or even from pre-engagement communication. All of this makes for a mutually more fulfilling moment together.

Thank you for sharing that Stina!

Thank you Sarah!

I hope the vast majority of the providers I've been with feel that way. I think my ATF felt that way because we had some great down time conversations and intimacy. But, perhaps a larger population of hot providers feel the way you do, that's encouraging. One in my position should never assume so though.

Definitely one of the more interesting posts I have read lately - and illustrates very nicely why provider participation is a REALLY good thing.  Beats the heck out of yet another "you could be a mangina if" post.  Nice to see that the trolls haven't beaten you off yet...

Ideal date in the hobby was one where I felt totally comortable to be myself without feeling like 'I' was even on the clock, and with a guy who was pretty damn good at all things oral and did not have a big pecker.