To All Ladies,

Our "Ladies Only" site is located at http://ladiestalk.net.  

Access is through recommendation only. If you would like access, please email me immediately through TER or at [email protected].

We would also need a link to your website for escort verification.

Let's become a community and give back to those less fortunate individuals that created stumbling blocks for us along our journey.

Tygrlily

-- Modified on 7/21/2001 5:30:31 PM

I wonder how successful this "ladiestalk" site would be by advertising here since most ladies here are providers and would they pay to get a male escort when they could tell their clients to do the same thing?  Hmm..

Uh-  Dude-  ?

I think its a site where the providerrs can dish the dirt on US!

So - We, as clients, review and discuss the ALIAS'S of women we spend time with.  WE are also doing so in a public and moderated forum.  There are those which are not, and I for one wiull not go anywhere near them.  

The women, who are in posession of our EXACT personal information [anyone see porky's? ] will be disccussing us behind closed doors.

Anyone ever hear of Plea Bargain?  Perhaps it is a long shot, but you never know...

And all of this brought to you via a woman who has already demonstrated her level of tact by posting personal information of a client on TBD.  Sure.  Yeah - I trust this idea...

When you build up walls....rest assured the barbarians will show up to storm them.

Perhaps if one wanted to put forth a concept like this, they should engage the attention of a member of the provider community who is known for her honesty and integrity.  We have quite a few kicking around here.  

This is kind of like advertising a home security system using a known felon as a spokesperson....or like listening to a big-oil man talk of conservation...(could not resist lol)

All the Best

LookyLooky

As I understand it one or more of these sites already exist, although I'm not privvy to specific information in that regard.  The purpose is ostensibly for the safety of the provider..protection from the ass-holes out there who do any number of foul things.  However, the playing field is definitely NOT level when it comes to a comparison of sites such as those with sites such as TER.  

The ladies are welcomed here by most of us, & certainly have access to the same info as any of the guys, so they can always determine what's being said about themselves & have the opportunity to respond.  Guys are not allowed admittance to the provider sites, & therefore have no idea what Might be said. A guy could be accused of damn near anything & never have the opportunity ti respond to the accusation.  Suppose you're always respectfull etc, but have a session that you review honestly which nonetheless makes the gal unhappy.  Not everyone is always truthfull, people get their noses bent out of shape for whatever reasons & some seek a pound of flesh so badly that telling a lie means nothing.  Gals can be equally as bad as guys in this regard.  "Hell hath no fury...etc" is not without some basis.

As has been pointed out, we guys are basically dealing with an assumed identity & have very little, if any, actual-factual info about the gals...yet they may have (perhaps to varying degrees) certain factual & personal info about the guys.  If either he or she ever had any evil intentions (don't laugh--it HAS happened)...who is in the position to do the most damage?  

I understand a providers need for safety, & thus understand the reason for screening.  However, some that I've seen don't REALLY work toward ensuring safety at all (anyone who can't get a phony business card set printed please leave the room) & some can become a bit intrusive depending on the guy's personal situation.  An example was a gal I contacted quite some time ago who said she needed to verify my employment.  Not sure how I would have felt about that if I worked for some company, but I'm self-employed so I told her the kind of verification she had in mind wouldn't be possible.  Her suggestion?  Bring a copy of my tax returns!!!!  I'm sure you can imagine what I did with that idea.  Gals need to screen...guys draw lines on what info we're willing to reveal, & the fact that these provider-only sites exist furthers those limitations.  As a result sometimes the twain simply shall not meet, & therein lies the double-edged sword.    

Lastly, with regard a lady revealing personal info about a client in a public forum, nah...I probably shouldn't even get into it--has to do with various legal issues & I'm not an attorney.


 

-- Modified on 7/24/2001 8:00:30 PM

As sites like these proliferate, it becomes more important to NOT give exact personal info.

Given the many bad client lists available to the gentlemen in the hobby to scroll through for information regarding a provider’s performances, services, business tactics, etc., is security for him to ensure his sanity from inadvertently being exposed to a con artist.

Comparing the limited information a provider receives on the clients’ she comes into contact with isn’t nearly enough information to protect herself and ensure her safety from those Nuts who show up at her door.  The information we receive we trust to be correct and we trust that once you’re inside things will go smoothly and that’s not always the case. When this happens our only armor is to warn other providers of his presence just as you warn other clients of ours.

The double standard is that men are allowed to flame the escorts and post negatively about her performances on public boards and subsequently ruin her business but the minute she posts in her defense of a session gone bad – she’s a villain.

You say to post our vindictives privately but then you speak negatively on the resources we set up to communicate amongst ourselves about the clients who have wrongfully hurt us in some way, Why?  These Bad Client Lists ultimately exist to protect the gentlemen from rip-offs and to equally harm the escorts and ruin her business.

I do not speak for Greywolf, but clearly you have missed the point once again, Tygrlily.  

You, and every other member of the public, has access to all of the information on this site.  Greywolf eloquently pointed out that escort only sites lack that openness.  Greywolf's apparent concern - which I share - is that there is no ability for a client to respond to accusations made on such exclusive sites.  This allows providers, who often have potentially damaging or dangerous personal information, to post without real accountability.

It may have been before you began reading these boards, but I have suggested that this site develop a dangerous clients board here.  My point is that I have no argument with providers' needs to protect themselves and to share information, only with the secretive aspect currently associated with it.

I understand your fear that a providers business could be ruined on these boards.  It would be possible to be sure.  I doesn’t happen though, because this is a public board, and those who have had favorable experiences always voice their opinions.  It is only those providers who do not deliver, or are otherwise dishonest in the practices, that get shelled here.  Even then, because this is a public board, providers have the opportunity to respond…an opportunity you seem perfectly happy to deny clients.

Even with TER, I have no absolute protection against being conned, ripp’ed, or hurt when seeing a provider.  It happens to clients every day.  Likewise, every provider runs the same risks.  If these risks are unbearable to me, I will no longer see providers.  Likewise, if these risks are unbearable to you, you should no longer see clients.  Every enterprise entails risk.  The decision of whether a potential risk is worth the potential reward is a personal one, but risk can not be eliminated without reduction in reward.  

Damn I hate long posts.

T007