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Okay guys, so of course I did it again. Don't ask me how, but I used the word "hooker" in a conversation with a client and he got extremely offended. I don't get it....I don't get offended by the word why would he?(Especially if he liked saying it during the encounter)  Thoughts?

To me, "hooker" as a word connotes the girl on the street pulling tricks in an alley. "Provider" and "escort" and maybe even "courtesan" are much more sophisticated, and suggest something much more mutual and acceptable.

Prostitute and prostitution have far too many legal ramifications to even discuss...

I do not look at providers with anything less than fondness, respect, and a deep appreciation for making themselves available to me. Life is too short to spend it unhappy and unsatisfied.

So yes Roxanne, I understand exactly how he felt when you used that word...

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Posted By: jelloman42
To me, "hooker" as a word connotes the girl on the street pulling tricks in an alley. "Provider" and "escort" and maybe even "courtesan" are much more sophisticated, and suggest something much more mutual and acceptable.  
   
 Prostitute and prostitution have far too many legal ramifications to even discuss...  
   
 I do not look at providers with anything less than fondness, respect, and a deep appreciation for making themselves available to me. Life is too short to spend it unhappy and unsatisfied.  
   
 So yes Roxanne, I understand exactly how he felt when you used that word...

GaGambler434 reads

So why should you take offense?

Some of us have no desire to be "sophisticated" where it comes to P4P, it is was it is. Sugarcoating it with fancy labels doesn't change a thing where paying or being paid for sex is concerned.  I think you have a VERY long ways to go before you really understand these women. They are NOT delicate flowers that need to be protected from that hard cold world. If anything most of them are tougher than you will ever be.

The key to being "happy" while doing this is to not put them on a pedestal where you have to look up at them, nor should you put them down as lesser humans to look down on them. There is a very happy middle ground where you simply treat a hooker like a human being first, and everything else second. only then will you know true happiness young grasshopper. lol

...but I react to the connotations of the word.

But I do agree that I have a lot to learn...

i think our Roxy needs some serious cock..

If those words are used to discribe someone's job choice like "He is a cop, she is a hooker and she is a lawyer," that doesn't offend me. Nor does it offend me in sex talk like, "Your my dirty little prostitute aren't ya? Let me spank you." But when used to dismiss or dehumanize some one like, "You can't rape a hooker." "She is just a street whore" or the god awful dead hooker jokes I have heard. That pisses me off. In my book usage is everything.

One thing you got to remember is because some use those words to devalue people some will get defensive about the words, simular to the "N" word discribing a person of African decent. I personally think that is nuts. Best to humanize the words instead of giving power to them.

Alan_Nimm388 reads

I tend to use the term provider or escort when talking with a member of that profession, unless/until I know whether she prefers a specific term, or doesn't care one way or the other.  I know some providers who don't like being called hooker or prostitute. I know others who don't think of themselves that way but would just laugh if I called them that - and maybe slap me upside the head as they were laughing.

I have a friend who is a klepto. Not a thief...
A theif steals for profit, a kleptomaniac steals because he has to.
He can't help himself. He steals stupid, useless things...
Anyway. He is so afraid someone was going to rob him. He thinks I would rob him.
I've known him since kindergarten BTW.

My point is.. The guy who is afraid of the word Hooker or Trick is no different than my friend.
They are both feeling Guilty, so the word.. The idea bothers them

Senator.Blutarsky459 reads

...and neither do John, Trick, Client, Fat ass, or any of the other things I've been called over the years. Now, if you'll excuse me (and even if you don't) it's time to ride!

If you want to call yourself a mistress, courtesan, lady of the evening, escort, hooker, tramp, or whore; all are fine with me (though I prefer the nicer ones, even in private).

I think all the ladies I know are my part time lover

CallofBooty356 reads

For legal purposes...I am an escort or companion. But....you are kidding yourself if you are offended by 1 certain term.

But you mean the words, right?

So, it depends on the context and intent of the person who is using the word.

If not meant to be hurtful, then no harm

Bill_Brasky361 reads

is there a picture of your client in the definition of "Mangina" in The Urban Dictionary?

I had a provider call me a "whore" once. That was funny ... but offended by the word "hooker"? That's just bullshit that people pull to "control" other people.I'm offended ... FUCK YOU!
 

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay guys, so of course I did it again. Don't ask me how, but I used the word "hooker" in a conversation with a client and he got extremely offended. I don't get it....I don't get offended by the word why would he?(Especially if he liked saying it during the encounter)  Thoughts?

IRS.........I don't care what you call it, as long as you pay it !!  
lol lol lol  

xoxo CindySpice

 
 

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Okay guys, so of course I did it again. Don't ask me how, but I used the word "hooker" in a conversation with a client and he got extremely offended. I don't get it....I don't get offended by the word why would he?(Especially if he liked saying it during the encounter)  Thoughts?

A term that puts another person down, that is derogatory or demeaning or implies lack of respect is offensive to me.  On the other hand, a term that shows respect or even mutually acceptable humor in the context in which it is used is fine.  
To paraphrase Jelloman,   I do not look at providers with anything less than fondness and  respect for who they are as people, and a deep appreciation for making themselves available as my partners in sex play.

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Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
I don't get it....I don't get offended by the word why would he?
 
Because we're all different, that's why! LOL. :-)

Perhaps he associates that word only with streetwalkers (some folks do) and/or the seedier side of this little world.

Or maybe, like me,  he has a bad memory attached to that word.   When I've asked people not to use that word, they get really condescending and sarcastically say, "oh you think you're not a hooker?  What do you call yourself, then?"    

Then I calmly explain that I'm not saying I'm NOT a "hooker"; prostitute, lady-of-the-evening, whore, escort, hooker, etc etc etc are all synonyms.   They mean the same damn thing.    

I just don't like to hear that word because no matter how many times I hear it, it still triggers a bad memory.  

Oh, and I really do like the term "fallen woman" because it just sounds so melodramatic that it makes me smile.  :-)

 
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noagenosage320 reads

Does anyone recall the old yarn about two professors walking down the street, spying two "ladies of the evening," and then challenging each other to see who could come up with the most additional descriptions?

Here are the ones I remember:  "A pride of loins";" "a verse of pro's"; and "a flourish of strumpets."  There were more in a similar vein, but that's what I recall.

As SLUT lol but hooker,  whore and even horned up little bitch really don't offend me at all. I really don't mind if a gentleman wants to say those while his cock is in me either.  :D

WICardinalfan317 reads

The term "Hooker" was a slang name given to the prostitutes who followed the Union Army in the Civil War, and in particular to soldiers under General Hooker's command.  

I love history, but not in the bedroom, so provider/escort/courtesan are much more classy terms.

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