So lately I've been contemplating whether or not I wanted to join an agency simply to get a feel of working in a team setting. When I leave said agency I was hoping that we could still be friendly with each other by sharing each other's links on each other's page. There's many pros and cons to working with an agency but I decided I wanted a new experience.  

I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting to join an agency, but if this is the typical reaction, it doesn't make sense.  I don't know much about agencies, as I have never used one, but I do know a thing or two about race...and his comments were more about opportunism than anything else.  He saw a business opportunity and tried to grab it -- in a most crass and unprofessional manner.

Forty years ago "people of color" sometimes had to just "suck it up" and deal with the overt racism that permeated our society, but this is the 21 century and speaking strictly for myself, I no longer "suffer in silence" and I would have told him to GFY well before our conversation had gone anywhere near as far as yours did.

I hate stereotypes! I never worked for an agency nor plan on it but I have noticed some guys being more nervous about seeing AA ladies. Im half Black and half Filipina and fortunately I never had an experience like that before BUT then again I never tried to work for an agency. Keep you head held high and try other places that are open minded and fuck everyone else!

He sure isn't doing much to change things! If he does not want competition with low prices, he could do less to perpetuate them by locking out certain races and spreading nasty stereotypes. And, as a person who works for and loves agencies, I still would be inclined to remind him that the definition of the word 'pimp' pertains to him and he would do well to get off his high horse.

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and in your own inimitable style you support her but rather harshly. I know, if you were harsh, we'd know it. lol Bit I still agree except ...

definitely made the right decision. Follow your intuition, it's dead on.

This is one of those battles worth fighting. At the risk of being "uppity" yes she told have told him to stick it. When you let people talk to you this way it gives them the impression that it's ok to do so and you give them no reason to change their behavior. Any one who talks to me in that fashion will be promptly and harshly reminded that it is NOT ok to talk to me in that matter. Even if the guy controls the industry in that town and even if he has a hundred pounds on me.

Is an industry where blatant racism is still acceptable. People find some of the stupidest reasons to mascarade their racism but they couldn't be more transparent. In this case, the ignorant agency owner was at least honest, although that doesn't make it any more acceptable. I'm sorry this happened to you.  

Yes, you are right not to want to be associated with this moron.

I am so pissed off for you, if I could encompass my rage into an image, it would be the attached.

First I will respond to your questions.I do not think you overreacted at all in fact your response was very nice considering the conversation.I think you absolutely did the right thing by not taking him up on his offer.
I disagree with his take on the adult industry however this is very common thinking with many(not all agencies)You are not the first lady of color that has mentioned the not so nice responses when contacting an agency for work.If you even get a response.If it was me the conversation with this idiot would not have gotten that far and probably not that pleasant.The gall of him to act like just responding to your email with bs he was doing you a favor.

In any industry, there are going to be bad bosses.  In this industry, bad boss can be used interchangeably with the term "pimp."  And in this industry, worldwide, there is a problem with race and how much money a woman can make.  For instance, in the legal brothels in Germany, white women command the highest prices, while women of African heritage are stuck with the lowest.

I wasn't trying to justify anything. I wanted him to know that I'm more than what he sees in the outside. I wanted him to know that I have pride for both places that I came from. Also I'm sure that ending the convo violently is exactly what he wants and I didn't want to give him the satisfaction of thinking he was right. I would be feeding his fire by being negative. Not my style. But I do see why you would be enraged. I simply don't react the way most people would.  

First of why did you decide to work for the agency if you are saying you have no problem getting appointments for $300. From what I know to make the same money your price tag should be $600. And I have a feeling that those who charge this kind of money are not very busy. The second is not really a question, but the post without your picture doesn't make the "whole" picture. How we can make a conclusion or just an opinion without seeing you? Usually in this business people spot the looks first, well, and after attitude.

Thank you. You hit the nail on the head.  

You're a sweetheart. I wanted to feel angry but I couldn't help but feel sorry for him. Like I said giving into his trap of fright to get me to be rude and violent is simply beneath me.  

Okay, firstly, the whole idea of race is ridiculous.

If sex work was fully decriminalized? Then providers would be governed by the same rules as public businesses. You can't reject your customers based on their religion or ethnicity. I saw a funny piece on the daily show about porn starlets getting 5x their usual rate for fucking a black dude... Are u kidding me?  

Are we outraged about that as well? How about age limits? Or weight in proportion to height?  

I fully support a hookers right to turn down a customer for ANY reason she so chooses. If he is too tall, short, fat, thin, black or even Asian. It's her body and her choice about who gets to fuck her, even if her reasons are racist, bigoted, or just plain shallow and unreasonable.

I probably will make even more enemies here by saying this... But if you're not ready to provide to all ethnicities and types of people. Then maybe they shouldn't provide. What right do people have to make other ethnicities inadequate?  

I don't know what agency that is, but this conversation was by far the most classic scenario in the first part of the initiation process by a pimp.

to all the responses your post garnered.........not sure I can add anything worthy.  But.......I will say I am extremely surprised........in a good way.........that you received so many positive/profound/spot-on replies.

Two instantly come to mind and both said the same thing.  

I have yet to hear a woman claim she was raped by a white guy and now will only see Latino, Black and Asian guys.

I met a girl who said

I don't give a fuck. I am telling you what they told me privately and in an emotional state.  

and let me repeat my earlier question, "Have you EVER heard a woman claim she was raped/abused by a white man in her youth and as such will only see Latino, Black and Asian men?"

I have seen threads where that comes up, too. And not all side with the NBA girls in those threads.  

But that does NOT mean these two girls are liars, GaG.

He might just be one of those tell you what they think people.    Might tell his white providers in the same direct way that a fat girl or small breasted woman would never make it with his clients .       The area he is in might dictate what he has on the menu.      He did offer you a job and a chance.    He knows his clients.    A lot of the agency's where I am have black girls in them.  Some very good looking ones too.  A lot of pretty independent black providers with a high dollar donation here too.     The back page ads have a lot of cheap white and black girl ads..  I think that makes for a lot of competition.    But he could be racist too?

Aside from that, even if true, the women you speak of are racist. Perhaps "racist with a reason" but racist nonetheless.  

IF...and I am saying it is a big IF, what these women told me are true, I would NOT call them racists. They had no issues with black women, very young black males or very old black males that I was aware.

nicely put, gambler

admittedly i am not of mixed race so i don't have the strong feelings of being pigeonholed by racist crackers.  i can't speak to the feelings that would swirl inside me if i was continually subjected to demeaning behavior by people obviously less worthy than i am.

unfortunately for me i have no direct knowlege of jayda lee's business model, but i am guessing she does really well on her own now, judging by her pics and reviews!

No matter what color you are. Some things (including people) can't be bought or sold at any cost. Just continue doing what feels right to you and in due time you'll see the right path. Just make sure you're looking for it.

You're absolutely right! I just want everyone to to be clear about one thing. I don't HAVE to join an agency and I'm not desperate either. I simply wanted to try it out. See if I could learn new things build a rapport with the agency, meet new people etc. I simply wanted a learning experience. I've been independent for less than a year and I went from your average escort to VIP status. But just because I made it here doesn't mean I can't still learn something new. I'm always learning and from this experience and based on the feedback I'm getting I'm just horribly turned off. As much as I like new experiences, an agency appears to be less than desirable at this point.  

Only part of it. I don't put up with "real" racism anymore, but I am about the least sensitive person in the world where it comes to political correctness. You should just hear all the chink jokes my friends tell me in private, or even in public, like right here on this board.  

And that's the ONLY way to do things. You never know what's on the 'other' side until you poke and prod to make sure you're on that right path. All good points Miss Sasha and I'm happy to see you made the right decision for you. When the curiosity gets the cat, the only way to satisfy that curiosity is to do what you did. I can relate. I did it too. (at one point lol) so NOT me either.  

...They had a bad experience with an African-American so now they discriminate against all of them.  That's what your beloved cops do.  They abuse the civil rights of African-Americans as well as beat and murder them out of a sense of self-preservation, not racism, right?  So their actions are justifiable, right?

I had no idea that an upscale agency would charge the rates they do. Their rates weren't listed in their site I merely assumed their rate would match their so called reputation. When he told me the price and on top of that I would have to give him a cut I would turn it down even if he was nice. Like I said I wanted to do it for a couple months more for the experience. I charge what I charge for two reasons. 1. I feel I'm well worth it and 2. I want a limit to the amount of clients I see a day. So by charging more I'm weeding out the clientele I don't want as opposed to the ones I do. Some girls are happy charging less and having their phone ring off the hook every 5 minutes. I'm not. The way I see it, why would I be so busy seeing 10 people a day when I can see 3 and make the same amount of money? Hey to each their own. High volume doesn't always mean more money. I want to be able to focus on the people who come to see me by reserving my energy for those that cone to see me. Every girl is different.  

For those mad at me for not 'standing up' for myself or getting angry it had less to do with me and everything to do with principle. He's not worthy of seeing me so distraught. Don't you think that by yelling and carrying on that he would get satisfaction out of it? What would it accomplish by telling him something he doesn't care about? Sorry but I don't let myself lose control of myself and my behaviour regardless of the situation unless it's really that important. And he wasn't Athat important to me. I don't know about all of you but he simply wasn't worth the time or energy. I saw him as beneath me and not anyone I had to prove anything to. That's like a millionaire arguing with a homeless man. Why should this millionaire stoop to the homeless mans level? Why should I stoop to the moron of an agency workers level?

If you don't want opinions, don't put yourself out there on a public board.

"racist cracker?" Really?  

and you should just hear my repertoire of "cracker jokes" but some of my "best friends" are redneck crackers, so that should make it ok., right?

Ok, "CRACKER" is a racist term for white people  

Great! You grew up in the barrio right?  
Tell me, how does that childhood taunt that
Hispanic kids say to all Asian kids,  
"Chino Chino Japones come caca y no me des"
("Chinese, Chinese, Japanese: eat shit and don't give me any").

Dude, get over it and please get over yourself.

And the eses only said that shit to the Oriental kids that they thought wouldn't or couldn't kick their culos. That little rhyme is way older than the term Asian

...that African Americans are a MUCH bigger threat to the safety of other AA's than any rogue cop. I see your cop hating is back along with your race baiting.

She could kick my ass, but you know doubt know Kung Fu(no doubt) so I'd say"Draw" provided you don't drink your bottle of tequila.Drunk, she'd kick your ass so bad that it would look like a baby seal clubbing happened in the room Sometimes "frigging" just sounds better than "fucking", but that's an EngRish thing. You probably don't understand.

You just gotta buy this guy a drink sometime.

I like how nobody read my response to myself.

I generally don't agree with GaG on too many things, but this time he nailed it. Fuck the agency, you should have outed it.

Ya know, it is actually an overtly racist comment when people choose to throw out statements such as black on black crime and negate to offer the flip side of the pillow. Im sure you'd like to make that statement as if it were some type of justification for the actions or misbeliefs of others, however, here is a little stat for you to start quoting in the future:  

Racism is always going to be around in some form or another, so I would not let it get to you. At the end of the day you know what your value is and don't let others tell you any differently.