My best friend from college, known him about 15 years, and I go to a local M&G.  Nobody knows we're friends, because we're not at the M&G to talk to each other.  I meet a really great girl there, super into me, young, gorgeous.  I'm so smitten I say hey let's go get a room after the party and have some alone time.  She says she'd love to.  The party goes on, it gets late, I say let's roll.  She says she can't because her girlfriend there is too drunk to drive and she can't get home.  She said we will def meet up later in the week.  I say ok.

I call later in the week to set something up.  Like 3 days in advance.  She says great, she can't wait.  I set up an evening appointment.  She calls at 5 and says she can't make it.  Just 2 hours before we meet.  She says her daughter came home from school sick and has to go home to tend to her.  I'm a little pissed, but I let it slide due to the family excuse.  I figure, it was all just bad timing.  I send her an email the next Monday.  Don't hear from her for several days.  Which I take as odd since we had talked on the phone several times and texted prior to setting up the 2nd meeting and she always got back to me right away.

Remember my college friend?  We both work a lot, so we played phone tag for a couple of weeks.  Finally, got connected.  We talk about the party, and I tell him how I met this really super hot chick there who genuinely seemed to like me.  I tried to hook up with her that night, but she bailed.  My friend tells me, "Her?  I went home with her that night!"  I said, "WTF?  You went home with her?  When?"  He said after I left, he was drinking with her.  They hit it off and went back to his apartment.  AFTER, she told me she had to take her friend home.  He apologized and said that he didn't know she and I were going to hook up.  I went on to tell him that she cancelled at the last second later in the week.  He said, "Really, because I saw her again that same week."  I said, "When?"  He said, "Friday night.  I called her after I got off work, and she came over a couple of hours later."  I said, "Friday?!  That was when I scheduled her like 3 days in advance.  She called me and bailed on me and said she had a sick kid!"  My friend apologized because he had no idea.  I mean we've been friends for 15 years, and he's not going to lie to me.

So now, I get an email from this girl saying that she's sorry we misconnected, and is really looking forward to seeing me.  She's super hot, but I'm pissed that she bailed on me twice.  Plus, I know for a fact she lied.  Granted she doesn't know that I know all this from my buddy.  The reality is, he's a lot better looking than I am.  We joke about him being the pretty one, but I'm the one with the big dick.  We were on the college football team together, so yes, I know that to be true.

What would you do?

can you live with it?

Again? You didn't "see" her the first time yet

I'd definitely see her if she's as hot as you say and the reviews are good.
But you asked what we'd do...not what you should do.

You...should not see her.

The whole idea behind this thing we do is NSA fun devoid of emotional drama and crap. You're already past that. The fact that you've put so much thought into it to post here shows that.
You're all wrapped up in how she treated you, and the fact that your friend has nailed that more than once when it was supposed to be your time.

There's no way in hell you'll be able to spend time with her and have an open mind. You'll be thinking about him, her, him nailing her, how she lied to you, yadda yadda yadda. At best it would be a grudge fuck (not that there's anything wrong with that sometimes LOL).

Your bridge with her is burned by your own hangups. Move on and find another.

And try not to think about how he's probably licking that snatch while you're reading this.

Let your buddy have his time with her. She has you marked as a chump.

Courtesy, honesty and integrity in all relationships is very important to me. If I meet someone that is shady like that I don't care if she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

Dealing with people who lie and don't respect you can't lead to anything good.

I could have saved myself a whole lot of problems and anguish if I'd walked away from a former ATF who I found out was lying to me on several occasions. Lying's a character flaw and given your situation and if it was me, I'd move on.

Re: Again? You didn't "see" her the first time yet

Totslly agree. Too much drama here. MOVE ON to where there is at least some potential for a good experience.

How much do you want to see her?

Can you get over the fact she saw your buddy instead of you?
Are you upset by the canceled appointment, or because she wasn't as "super into you" as you thought?

You say she went home with your friend the night of the M&G, and the following Friday...
were these appointments? or did she see your friend outside of business?

if outside of business, does it bother you he may get for free what you have to pay for?

Do you believe because she lied twice about canceling that she will again?

I tend to agree with Mr Daego, you won't be able to put the lies and her seeing your friend out of your mind, so you won't have a good time...

I would suggest you pass.

As for your "big dick"...
a lot of ladies don't actually like "big dicks" depending on what you mean by big...
so that could be even more of a detriment to you...
sorry to break that to you.

This woman sounds like the wrong kind of trouble. And she's a terrible businesswoman to boot!

But of course she didn't know she would get found out in a lie (you mentioned that no one knew you and your buddy were there together). So, you have some knowlegdge about her that you might not have had otherwise. Ouch! TMI, right?

IMO, her behavior indicates that she is very confused about what she is doing in the hobby. Her lack of clear-headdedness will continue to be trouble for you.

Find someone who will keep their promises, follow through on stuff, and provide an awesome experience. There are plenty of these ladies to be found here, some in your own town I'm sure.

Jillian says "move on, dude".

she lied to you repeatedly to "shtupp" your friend; give your self-esteem a break, move on & find someone else. Plenty of hot providers out there.

Um...dude?
They lie for a LIVING!
Helloooooo......

Angry sex is only good if both parties are angry and this is a grudge, make up fucking. But since its only one sided I don't think it's going to be all that heated.

Although, it could be phenomenal, because it might turn into "I'm so sorry i had to cancel on you twice. Let me make it up to you!!" kind of a session.. HMMMMM.....Just something to think about

I don't care that she saw my friend.  In college, he was the tailback and I was the fullback who blocked for him.  So, he had plenty of girls, and I wouldn't know half the girls I do if it weren't for him.  And they were regular appointments, not dates.  He hobbies because he's divorced and doesn't want to bother with civvies.

What bothers me is that, yeah, if she lied to me twice, what else is she going to lie about?  And yeah, I probably would feel pretty stupid if she cancelled on me again.  But, she's got 5 pages of great reviews.  

I think I may already have my answer because my buddy doesn't want to see her again.  He likes variety first off, but secondly he thinks she's going to be a lot of drama after I told him what happened.

This is PAY for PLAY -- a gosh darned business. And this is NOT an HONEST businesswoman. It's just that simple.

Humbling yourself in order to BEG someone to take YOUR money is disgraceful. By treating you dishonestly, she is failing to respect your basic human dignity. Buck up. Put her on your "Wouldn't fuck her if she paid me" list and move on. I don't care how "hot" she is -- she isn't hot where it counts.

She can't be trusted. You don't want to be naked with a woman who won't even tell you basic truths. G-d only knows what else she's lying about.

And not your dick, either. She bailed on you twice, and not for the reasons she told you.

If she was a professional she would've seen you when she was supposed to. Not go with the 'pretty one'. She could've seen him later.

I don't give a fuck 'how hot' a lady thinks she is. That's bullshit what she did to you.

I'd tell her fuck no and why. Say, 'You know when you broke the other dates with me because this and that? Well, that was my dog you were with both times, (include expletive here)!'

It's what I'd do, but that's just me.

.... that I see providers to AVOID.  Why you would put up with being jerked around by a provider is beyond me.  There are more smoking hot ones out there that will treat you with respect.  

My .02

MVR

Finally, someone gets it. It starts with my name...and goes on from there. If and I mean if there is enough trust...sure I will let the truth filter through but that is very rare.

Add me to the "no big dicks" club.

You definitely protest too much.

Yes, you do care that she saw your friend.
Your friend is what you seem most concerned, almost obsessed about.

Again with the college thing? He was the star, you protected...he's the attractive one...you wouldn't know half the girls you do if it wasn't for him....
GOD. Do you want to fuck women...or him???

And now you have your answer....ONLY because he doesn't want to see her again!!

Good Lord, man.
My professional advice is that you stay AWAY from the hobby...and women in general...until you grow a set of stones on your own.

Is there anything that you do like? Something not degrading of course.

You are too funny. I mention two things out of the myriad of things to do and you come up with that question...you must be bored.

FYI, the list of things I do like far out weighs the things that I don't...not that it's any of your business...Oh and there is a slight difference between work things and things for pure pleasure.

Oh you can add uncircumcised dicks to the list of don't like.

Please, please get back to us and give us an update after you communicate with her again, as I absolutely know you will do.
And then finally set something up with her, give her your money, have a blast with this super hot chick, all the while trying to prove yourself to her and in the back of your head wanting her to compare you to your friend.
Tell us how you are still hooked on her and now you're hiding in her bushes trying to figure out who she's seeing on the nights that she says she can't see you.
Pretty soon, you'll be buying her a car, loaning her money, and still talking about how you have the big dick.  

A lot more blood available for my brain than blood deprived big dicks..I hope he made all that up..If not, I nominate him for groveler of the year.He can't be serious?

Are you sure you want to deal with someone like that, even if she is smoking hot. I guess the bottom line is whether or not you can get past her lies and njoy yourself.
If a client pulld that on me he would be on the DNS list with a quickness.

If you spend any more time on this woman, you are sap, your name is Tim (short for ATM) and she saw you coming before the word go. Many of these ladies are pathological liars. Some say it comes with the territory; some say it's a defense mechanism. What ever the fuck it is, she's not worth your time. Play long enough and you'll find someone that looks just that much better. She was into you, huh? Stop flattering yourself, dude. She says that to everyone; she makes everyone feel special. That's her job! Apparently, she liked the bulge in his pants more. Where you fucked up is you got all "smitten" (your words) and shit. Never show your hole card on the first "date." You probably are lousy at poker too.

The implication is that prostitutes, by their very nature, are untrustworthy.

I believe this is a function of the individual, not the occupation.

Don't they collect cheese up under there?

while you are at it stop measuring or comparing dicks. You may not be as big as you think.

It is obvious that you want to see the lady in question, and she likely wants to see you, regardless of the issues you stated.  Go for it if want, but never forget that you are a hobbyist, and she is a provider.  If you know how to hobby, you know exactly what that means.

The girl flaked you on twice and yet you are still considering seeing her.why?That must've been one hell of impression she made on you at the M&G.There is so many ladies to choose from why dwell on this one girl?i wouldn't care if she had 5 or 15 pages of reviews.Right is right,wrong is wrong.Its not like she's the only provider in your area.On to the next one!

See here; they don't give two squats what you discovered. Tell them to hit the bricks.

oh, did I mention YEP?

Book an appointment, show up, give her the donation and just when it gets down to serious play time, get up and walk out.  Boy, would you show her!

Come on, you're not dating her, she's an escort on you are a hobbyist! Maybe your friend promissed a multi-hour or extended appointment.  Do you really think this has anything to do with looks?  It's economics, not feelings.

NO !

Fuck her hard and send her home...enough said

Or at least it sounds that way

This seems a pretty cut and dried:

- she'll probably lie again.
- only you can decide if it's worth the effort

but look where we all went...

Velly intellesting!

Your cash not your looks.  I look like Etan Hawke when I'm carrying a FAT envelope.

Damn it!!!! I hate it when i need a joke explained to me!!!!

Run Forrest!!! RUN!!! LOL

AGREED!

And no he shouldn't see her again.... I dunno why he thinks his friend got her time and therefore better treatment because he looks better lol. Maybe it's just me but I treat everyone I see great and I don't treat anyone any better if I actually find them attractive.

If guys don't clean them right yeah -_o, i forget what that cheesy substance is called though.

Definitely not. You can probably expect that kind of treatment from her from here on out.

I do see your point...thank you for that perspective...

set up a date and show up with your friend and tell her to fuck off.