A lot of ladies who do overnights have clients who take the little blue pill and we are up all night with them....in my case it is a little red pill....or with clients who have not had marathon sex in a longggggg time so they play catch up with providers.....it is very taxing mentally.
The last overnight I did alone......I got in his room at 6pm, by 6:01 we were fucking....8:30 we were at dinner........10pm we were back in his room fucking....1am we dozed off.......2:30 we were in his jacuzzi....3 we were fucking.........5am I was in the shower getting ready to leave.
11pm same day I was on a flight to NYC 11pm next day I was with my NYC doubles partner doing another overnight.....she didnt sleep....I didn't sleep...and our client was in over drive so he didn't sleep either....but we did do a wholeeeeeeee lotta fucking.
This is typical for me...........and it has taken its toll on what is left of my sanity...so to make my life easier....I just don't do overnights anymore.....I can do 12 hours during the day.....or a combination of day and evening...but I can't do all that fucking around then have to hear snoring that sounds like a freight engine in my ear all night, have back pokes, extra body temp that may or may not be easy to deal with.... or sleep well in a bed with someone I am not intimately and emotionally connected with.
I don't get why overnight is so expensive? It's not like you plan on screwing the whole night? Don't providers have to sleep anyways, so it's not like there is an "opportunity cost" for them.
Here is the ATL, there is at least one well respected agency that has an interesting take on overnights. They establish a bunch of rules sort of like the following: Total time with client is 12 hours, but six of those must be "sleep" time where you agree to leave her alone so she can sleep, watch TV, or whatever she wants with no interference from the client. Plus rules that you must feed her with expected time for that one hour. So, if you do the math, you end up with five hours of actual time with her, the fee is equivalent to nearly three times the usual hourly rate. So, morale of the story is for this particular agency you would be far better off to simply book multiple hours and forget all this overnight rate BS.
Its the tossing and turning listening to snoring and who she has to kiss, when she awakens in the morning.
She's a bargain at twice the price.
A lot of ladies have to hire babysitters...travel.......clear out their calendars for the time you will be with them...you are going to take a blue pill which means we will be up all night long.....overnights are a lotttttttttt of work....usually most informed ladies plan out a complete evening with activities, meals, and plenty of play time.....lots of thought and consideration go into the 12 hours.....and yes we do sleep.....but for some ladies....they do a special "wake up" call....
Not all hobbyists go for the little blue pill. Between hut tub time, recoup time, and chat, I figure an overnight (with me) requires 2-3 hours of 'work'. Maybe that's just me? I do agree that the "special wake up call" is expected though.
How do you know I don't plan on screwing all night? Ok...even if I plan on it chances are it's not going to happen, but still.
I like my own bed. I've stayed in some nice hotels. Slept in the guest rooms of some pretty bourgeois homes. But I'd never NOT rather be in my own bed. Most people feel the same.
So if you want them to sleep in YOUR bed...and deal with your fucking snoring, talking, drooling, tossing, turning, cover snatching, and constant need to touch - guess what - ante up.
Otherwise, she's got a plush bed (that probably has like 8 million pillows) at home calling her name.
I couldnt have said it better myself. I love my own bed and no snoring or talking or drooling, tossing n turning, and all of what you said is exactly what we dont want. I wish everyone would understand this.
I like my own bed. I've stayed in some nice hotels. Slept in the guest rooms of some pretty bourgeois homes. But I'd never NOT rather be in my own bed. Most people feel the same.
So if you want them to sleep in YOUR bed...and deal with your fucking snoring, talking, drooling, tossing, turning, cover snatching, and constant need to touch - guess what - ante up.
Otherwise, she's got a plush bed (that probably has like 8 million pillows) at home calling her name.
Most women have difficulty sleeping around someone they do not know as it is, so I usually end up not getting much sleep anyway. I figure, I am on the clock, so take a nap to be prepared for a long shift. I hate to break it down that way but it is what it is. I've given a discount for a repeat guy who I know I can actually sleep around and not wake up every hour, but that is not common.
My one hour rate is 400. Overnight is 2000. So when booking overnight which lasts up to 14 hours you pay for FIVE hours.
Any companion worth her garters will tell you it is much easier to do 5 one hour dates than one overnight.
During overnight one has to be The Perfect Girlfriend non stop, be "on" and created atmosphere of fantasy and make sure that you are having best time of your life.
She has to be there for you from moment you she walks in till moment she leaves.
This can be extremely rewarding and stimulation experience, but it is not an easy one to accomplish. So ladies who are capable of it do want to be compensated for making you feel like the king of the world for 12-14 hours.
Lina
I am a veteran of overnighters and I don't see how it is easier to do 5 one hour dates as you stated. That is 5 guys with 5 different personalities and 5 different desires the lady has to deal with. She only has one pervert to please (me!!!) which is a lot easier to do. LOL.
Also, I don't see how a lady is the Perfect Girlfriend non stop. My typical overnighter is some early fun for an hour, then dinner at a nice restaurant for two to three hours, then some more fun for a couple of hours. The lady goes to sleep from say 10 pm till 6 am which time she is asleep and she is not "on". Then a final hour of early morning fun and then she is on her way out the door. Only once did a lady keep me up till 1 am but it was her choice and then she slept till 8 am. So I don't see non-stop coming into play here for most overnighters since it is expected that a lady has to sleep in order to prepare for the next day.
P.S. Any chance a DC/NoVA trip is in your future? LOL
Actually, I prefer to have 10 one hours appointments instead of 3 multiples (lasting 2 or 3 hours each).
Why? Exactly for the motive you said above! Different personalities! I can be in my best humor and entertain one guy for one hour in a honest and true way and make that hour exciting for both. In one hour I can make a boring guy with a boring job and living a boring existence feels like he is the most interesting man in the world for me, without one bit of faking from my part.
More than a hour with the same guy? Arrrrgh, I truly can't do it. Two or three hours with the same guy will be pure agony for me and he will see that I am there just tolerating and not really enjoying. An overnight with him will be like a torture chamber.
What you guys don't understand is ---- once you walk out of the door, we FORGET about you and everything we have done in a flash! All goes in a hidden part of our brains and until we see you again, we will archive the memory of the session that just happened and move on to the next adventure.
Because we see many guys in a week, we cannot keep relieving each client in our memories over and over. If you guys have a memorable session with a lady, the whole experience stays etched into your heads (top & bottom). It doesn't happen in the same way for us.
What I love about what I do is the variety of men I see every day. The variety makes each day different and I enjoy each one of my clients with sheer pleasure. One hour at the time, he will be the center of my universe, then GONE and someone else will replace him as the main star on my solar system.
Variety keeps my day unique --- is never boring, is never a routine!
PCG
Why? Exactly for the motive you said above! Different personalities! I can be in my best humor and entertain one guy for one hour in a honest and true way and make that hour exciting for both. In one hour I can make a boring guy with a boring job and living a boring existence feels like he is the most interesting man in the world for me, without one bit of faking from my part.
More than a hour with the same guy? Arrrrgh, I truly can't do it. Two or three hours with the same guy will be pure agony for me and he will see that I am there just tolerating and not really enjoying. An overnight with him will be like a torture chamber.
What you guys don't understand is ---- once you walk out of the door, we FORGET about you and everything we have done in a flash! All goes in a hidden part of our brains and until we see you again, we will archive the memory of the session that just happened and move on to the next adventure.
Because we see many guys in a week, we cannot keep relieving each client in our memories over and over. If you guys have a memorable session with a lady, the whole experience stays etched into your heads (top & bottom). It doesn't happen in the same way for us.
What I love about what I do is the variety of men I see every day. The variety makes each day different and I enjoy each one of my clients with sheer pleasure. One hour at the time, he will be the center of my universe, then GONE and someone else will replace him as the main star on my solar system.
Variety keeps my day unique --- is never boring, is never a routine!
PCG
(Hey, it's getting so polite here. Who put the niceness pills in our water supply?)
The provider is the one whose point of view is relevant, not ours. We clients might think we know better but that is a conceit.
That said, there is a wide range of variance that relects individual providers preferences.
I know some providers who will do an over-night for a third of the cost as another even though they both have the same hourly rates. It's individual preference.
In fact, I met one provider who charged more for a twelve hour overnight than a twelve hour daytime. I guess some people or more sensitive to snoring or value their sleep time more than others.
A lot of ladies who do overnights have clients who take the little blue pill and we are up all night with them....in my case it is a little red pill....or with clients who have not had marathon sex in a longggggg time so they play catch up with providers.....it is very taxing mentally.
The last overnight I did alone......I got in his room at 6pm, by 6:01 we were fucking....8:30 we were at dinner........10pm we were back in his room fucking....1am we dozed off.......2:30 we were in his jacuzzi....3 we were fucking.........5am I was in the shower getting ready to leave.
11pm same day I was on a flight to NYC 11pm next day I was with my NYC doubles partner doing another overnight.....she didnt sleep....I didn't sleep...and our client was in over drive so he didn't sleep either....but we did do a wholeeeeeeee lotta fucking.
This is typical for me...........and it has taken its toll on what is left of my sanity...so to make my life easier....I just don't do overnights anymore.....I can do 12 hours during the day.....or a combination of day and evening...but I can't do all that fucking around then have to hear snoring that sounds like a freight engine in my ear all night, have back pokes, extra body temp that may or may not be easy to deal with.... or sleep well in a bed with someone I am not intimately and emotionally connected with.
allure "but I can't do all that fucking around then have to hear snoring that sounds like a freight engine in my ear all night,"
After reading your reviews,you would have me totally staisfied,worn out and asleep, half way through a hour appointment. I don't snore a peep. I won't be grumpy when you wake me with a whisper in my ear, "its time to go'.
I'll be back another time, if you don't mind, after my nap.
P.S. I might be a stinky old goat, but I shower twice, before I meet, someone nice.
Hmmm sounds very very different from overnights i have.
Last one i had involved play, out to dinner, play, room service, play, fall asleep at 2am, wake up at 7am, play, breakfast and .... u guessed it play
Lina
PS to answer your question .. chances of me being in DC for tour are minimal, for overnight - maximum ))
Also, I don't see how a lady is the Perfect Girlfriend non stop. My typical overnighter is some early fun for an hour, then dinner at a nice restaurant for two to three hours, then some more fun for a couple of hours. The lady goes to sleep from say 10 pm till 6 am which time she is asleep and she is not "on". Then a final hour of early morning fun and then she is on her way out the door. Only once did a lady keep me up till 1 am but it was her choice and then she slept till 8 am. So I don't see non-stop coming into play here for most overnighters since it is expected that a lady has to sleep in order to prepare for the next day.
P.S. Any chance a DC/NoVA trip is in your future? LOL
I have never gotten eight hours of sleep on an overnight. YOU try giving head and cowgirl-ing for hours straight on a monster cock pumped up with Viagra that won't orgasm and come back and tell us how much you've decided to charge.
as with all things, this is very individual. because i tend to bond emotionally with my clients on some level, i prefer spending extended time with them. i could not see 3 or 4 men in a day, or even in a week, week after week. it would just be far too mentally and emotionally draining. so i adore overnight dates. it gives me lots of time with someone i like, am interested in, and care about. i cannot relate to the concept of spending that kind of time with a stranger or someone i disliked...obviously that would make things quite a bit different.
so my overnight rates are quite reasonable...and yes they will differ depending on the depth of my relationship with a particular client. but i would never spend 1 hour with a man i disliked, much less a whole night. i will agree though that you have to be "on" at all times...which does not mean being in any way fake, but just remaining perky and upbeat. i tend not to sleep much on overnight dates mostly due to anxiety over not wanting to displease or disappoint. on one of my very first overnight dates i made a horrible faux pas and drank a little too much at dinner...this resulted not in my becoming drunk, but in sleeping like a baby ALL NIGHT LONG!! i woke up mortified. luckily my date was very understanding and claimed to have enjoyed just lying beside me, holding me and watching me sleep...still i made it up to him as best i could in the few hours we had left.
I disagree that overnights are difficult and Id much rather see one gentleman overnight than 5 for a short time. Thats why I price mine reasonably and do them very often.
An overnighter is basically a few hours of private time, lots of wine, dinner, a relaxing bath, a little more alone time, watching the nightly news, and sleeping 8 hours. Bring earplugs and take an Ambien and you'll be out like a light!!
Try reversing roles,would you sleep with someone(at a discount price), lets say,with a little hair on her chin,a couple of rolls in her stomach area,a vagina with a hint of tuna,etc???
So,how do you expect a provider to sleep with you??(without you paying a large sum)
I'm still amazed that the ladies,will spend even an hour with me and my broken down body!!!! (yuck)
AHHHHH HA HA HA
So,how do you expect a provider to sleep with you??(without you paying a large sum)
I'm still amazed that the ladies,will spend even an hour with me and my broken down body!!!! (yuck)
Now that i re-read my thread to this post,,,the tuna thing was kinda funny!!!! IMHO!
So,how do you expect a provider to sleep with you??(without you paying a large sum)
I'm still amazed that the ladies,will spend even an hour with me and my broken down body!!!! (yuck)
What you're paying is to hear and smell her farts and see the drool that comes from her month. Then there's the charge for you sleeping in her bed and using her towels and mouthwash. If you are lucky, you'll get a good fuck on your way out the door. What's not to understand about that? In the hotel business, it's known as "incidentals."
is that the best you can come up with MadCow? Always the Mr. Information aren't you? With no reviews I don't know why anyone would take to heart your continuous advice.
"Incidentals" are quite the different term than "incidentally" and at least grow some skin because it was more a joke at the ridiculousness of the OPs original post. As for following anyone's advice on TER, I could put in a thimble what jewels of wisdom I've been able to take away. Oh, it's a public fucking board. When I have to write a review, I'll stop. Until then, go advertise so you can feed yourself.
Dear African Queen:
Perhaps you can refer anyone else that would like to ask you these questions with respect to overnights, to their local Better Booty Business Bureau. They would have the standards for the economics and the going rates in different parts of the country. Perhaps they would be able to offer seminars to address this and to illustrate how providers would come up with the prices when they add their expenses into it as well. I guess the only question you would have next is how much would I have to charge to give these informational seminars as part of a hobbyist\provider business orientation? "You new motto will be now if you want to know just ask a hoe but just make sure you have my dough"? Not to mention a lot of you don't have the option of writing off certain expenses at your year or quarters end.
Ladies and gentlemen have provided any number of justifications for the cost of an overnight, but so far nobody has given the real reason as far as I can see.
The real reason has nothing to do with whether or not she is getting paid to sleep, degree of difficulty, the broken down bodies of (some, not all) hobbyists or any of that jazz.
The real reason for the cost of an overnight is the same reason as the cost of a car, mp3 player or a pizza: because a willing buyer is willing to pay a willing seller in a free market that much money. Period. That's all.
Providers can justify and hobbyists can support or detract from those justifications; but it makes no difference in the real economic equation.
So within the context of the generally accepted approach to hobbying, the price is established by what men who are in the market for overnight companionship will pay for that service. Everything else is just noise. If those men weren't willing to pay those rates, those rates would drop. THAT is why it is so expensive.
Me? I'm not in the market for that. I need too much alone time for overnights to be worthwhile -- I'd have to be compensated for them. LOL
I don't think so as most providers do not favor them even if they offer such appointment..if they have no takers they are not going to lower the rate.
So within the context of the generally accepted approach to hobbying, the price is established by what men who are in the market for overnight companionship will pay for that service. Everything else is just noise. If those men weren't willing to pay those rates, those rates would drop. THAT is why it is so expensive.
... any product not intended to be sold will not be susceptible to market forces. You are right about that.
It's kind of like I can feel free to charge $10k/minute for analingus because it just ain't happening.
This is why I specified a willing buyer and a willing seller.
In a typical overnight date, you get six hours of play time, three two hour sessions. I always made sure this was understood up front. Once you take the total amount and divide by six hours, it's often a pretty good deal.
I used to fly girls out east from the west coast and it really cost almost as much for an overnight as it did for a four hour appt. Once you figure travel time, airport time, etc, the time difference for the lady is almost nil.
The ladies also have many more expenses during an overnight. Childcare. pet sitting, etc have to be figured in.
And lastly, most folks want to sleep snuggled up in their own bed. If they are going to sleep next to some fat, old, sweaty guy in a unfamiliar bed, there is going to be a premium attached to it.
they are not for everyone..maybe that is why are expensive.
I got to her incall at 1pm and left at midnight. We drink, fucked, eat witched some TV and back fucking, more drinks and watched a basketball game with had some snacks and wine.
Then back BCD. It was a great day and I’m indebted to the lady and still see her not as often as I’d like but she’ll still my ATF.
Having enjoyed overnights more than any other form of date, from a hobbyist's point of view, this issue really isn't about money. As a matter of fact, my overnights have been with ladies who didn't have the item on their menu or had rarely encountered demand for such. I find the issue is whether the couple have an interest in being together for an extended time. Overnights transcend sexuality, at least for me, in my mid-50's. The "occupational hazard" to the lady, if there is one, is that actually SLEEPING with someone merges reality with fantasy, which sometimes creates an undesirable depth of intimacy. Both hobbyist and provider have to spend some effort managing emotions, but is it ever worth it! Every O/N I have ever engaged was priced through a little good natured give and take, taking into account activities in the locale, dinner, desirability of accommodations, etc. It has less to do with sex and expense than any other form of encounter.