for the part where a reviewer needs to consider the impact on a providers business by, to paraphrase "going along with the way everyone else does it"
On that point I vehemently disagree. What Reagan is saying is basically that "several wrongs do make a right" and that the system is so broken that being honest is no longer an option. I just can't agree with that assessment.
A reviewers only concern should be to tell his experience from HIS point of view and let the chips fall where they may, very few hobbyists, and none that are familier with the system just go by the numerical scores. A 6/6 by the OP would mean every bit as much as a 10/10 by you MIkey, and if he were to ever rate someone a 7/7 a line would probably form around the block to see that lady, no offense Mikey, but your reviews are completely worthless to most hobbyists here, myself included. If you give out a 9 most hobbyists would think the lady must have a hump or something, your 10's are completely meaningless and don't do the provider or the guy reading your review any good at all. I much prefer candor.
Aside from that, I actually think that Reagan and I are not that far apart on the subject. Not to mention the fact that I have a hard time being rude to someone who makes a post as well thought out and written as hers, even if we don't see eye to eye. She must know the old saying "kill them with kindness" FWIW that strategy works a very high percentage of the time, it just did with me. lol
I cant stand some of these reviews with 8,9 for models and extreme services 9 and find out its not. I wrote a review of an sp and got rejected because the numbers were way off compared to the other reviews, but this is a review board and I should be writing good and bad so others can see
Dog,
First I want to say thanks for having the courage and fortitude to not use an alias. I owe it to you to do the same.
I looked at your latest review. I have no idea if this is the one your talking about but heck its a great one to use anyways.
I looked at the providers website. I would die to have such a perky tight ass. She is at a minimum an 9 in the ass and legs. This must be true as your only complaint about her looks was she is now a brunette. But then you say thats ok, and you don't mind. I think she looks good, and trust me I am picky about whose thighs I crawl between. I would lick my way all the way up on those. I kissed a girl....and REALLY liked it. Darn again I digress.
I looked at the juicy details, and you had nothing but great things to say about her. I didn't see anything negative at all. In fact you say next time you would take the two hour plunge, GREAT!! She has 26 reviews before you, she has one 7/9 and one 7/8 last year out of those 26 reviews. The rest are 8's and 9's. You rated the girl a 6/6??? You didn't say anything negative about her!
If there are negative aspects of your review that did not make it onto the TER review page then skip all I have just said. However if not then read below.
I am not trying to flame you or be critical, but MAYBE you don't realize what it is that trips your trigger? Thats an honest question. Maybe you need real love, that the whole provider thing just does not fulfill you? I only say that because though you have nothing bad to say about her performance yet you rated her a 6.
Maybe you need a different kind of experience to really trip your trigger both emotionally and physically. I hope you find what you need. Good luck.
wow, reagan, thanks for highlighting that.
Call 'em as you see 'em but for the rest of you guys, always be sure to do your homework and check out the reviewer's history vis a vis the scores other reviewers give each gal.
In this case you can see that Maddogwill's 7 equals most other guys's 9, etc.
I also give you credit for not using an alias.
MF, I cant help but disagree. Respectfully of course. If he continues to call them as he sees them, and he sees them ALL 2 points below their lowest ever score two things occur.
The first is that he is never satisfied.
The second is that his inability to find what pushes him to the 9 and 10 category may hurt the providers financially. That 6/6 he just sent out is going to be hard to pull up. And while its not her fault, it is her burden. And yes I do consider that an important part of the issue.
Your logic dictates that in order for him to call a 10, he must see somebody else's 12. That excludes every provider on this board. I think he needs a much clearer understanding of what he really wants and desires to turn him on and pop his cork.
Most reviewers score at least two points higher than reality, the OP has the right to "call it as he sees it". My personal scale is probably two points lower on average than the average TER reviewer and the OP seems to be a bit "tougher" than even me, but that's his perogative.
No reviewer owes anybody anything, he should simply tell his story the way "he" sees it. I wish there were more reviewers like the OP. There are so many 9's and 10's thrown around for some pretty average looking women that the numbers have indeed lost all meaning.
Case in point, if the OP ever were to rate a lady a 9 or a 10, Now "that" would be a meaningful rating, everybody would have to wonder "just how hot can that woman possibly be to rate a 10 from him?" and that what tens are supposed to be "one in a lifetime" not simply an attractive woman.
IMO an 8 should be an extremely hot woman, a 9 should be reserved only for women that could legitimately be on a magazine cover, and a 10 is a woman that should literally "stop traffic" lol
Reagan, you appear (from what I can tell from your understandly blurred pics) to be an attractive woman, but do you honestly believe that you are a ten? Do you honestly in your "heart of hearts" think that you could compet in the world of high fashion and get on the cover of a magazine against the legions of gorgeous women fighting for the honor? If so, then your tens are deserved, if not you too are the beneficiary of a unfortunately flawed system.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but when obviously average looking women are routinely given nine and even tens, it's a sign that the reviews here are not terribly discerning, or that they are scared to let their real opinions to be made public for fear of the fallout that happens to "tough reviewers" Lets face it, no provider wants to see a guy that is well known to give out low scores.
I think it hurts the system when a man is loathe to be critical of a provider on a site created for that very pupose. Somehow, someway the review system got corrupted into an ad venue for provdiders instead of a place for men to be honest with each other for the common good.
Men are such fucking pussies. I wish more of them would grow a pair, and I commend the OP to say so under his "real" name. Now if only the rest of these spineless little pussies that are constantly trying to curry favor with the ladies could find their nutsacks and do the same, the review process would have a lot more integrity.
All that said, the OP really is a tough grader, even by my standards. See I told you I was going to be respectful. lol
I don’t disagree with MUCH of what you say. And I think if the roles were reversed we would each have the others opinion. The OP certainly has the right to call it as he sees it. And he need not feel guilty for the turmoil that he may cause the provider, that’s not his concern and it is a risk factor in her profession. However if he chooses to cry about utilizing a system that every 5th thread says is flawed, then he is nothing more than a pre-pubescent nutsack whining to world.
To answer your question, I don’t know what I am in looks. Many of my clients are repeat clients. I have never been turned away nor had the door slammed in my face. I don’t wear a bag in public and the dog still sits in my lap without food tied around my neck. I think we can both agree that the looks department is subjective to a client’s individual taste and desire. As has been stated here on multiple occasions by multiple people, one man’s 5 is another man’s 10. So I guess I am what I am. As far as performance goes, I like to think I am a 10. But we will never know for sure until someone invents the fuck-o-meter and it has a calibrated standard. As an aside, I have "stopped" traffic, and it’s a funny story for another time and place.
Your statement "Somehow, someway the review system got corrupted into an ad venue for providers instead of a place for men to be honest with each other for the common good." really sums it up. I think that statement should be the automatic reply to each of these threads about how inflated the rating system is. As an ad system it’s very corruptible. As easily corruptible as it is, it can also be very harmful. I don’t know if it’s the best or worst of systems, but it’s the system that’s in place.
Here is where I think we will have to agree to disagree. When we talk of spineless nutsacks, let’s get a bit more OBJECTIVE. You say "they are scared to let their real opinions to be made public for fear of the fallout that happens to "tough reviewers" Let’s face it, no provider wants to see a guy that is well known to give out low scores." I say that until you can find a way to make all men think alike, vote alike, want alike and PICK alike, then that “tough reviewer” has a moral obligation to think of the ramifications of his actions. Even the same experience for two different clients can easily be rated differently.
Every man on this board knows that the system is subjective. They should be taking the advice that is frequently given to look at all the reviews, and the details. Maybe this should be like some of the Olympic sports where they throw out the lowest and highest scores and then take an average of the rest. I don t know and probably never will. But here is what I do know; the system has NO, NONE, ZERO room or sympathy for a moderate or low score. It has no room because of what reviewers have allowed it to get to. Don’t blame the providers, we don’t write the reviews. If some of us won’t see you because of how you write a review there are a dozen more who will. I don’t buy that threat at all, and neither should you.
My only point in all of this is to take into consideration how far outside the bell curve a person elects to rate. If they are so far out of the mean then they are an aberration. The general reply from the board is for guys to ignore the aberration unless it comes from a guy that you know and agree on how he scores. HOWEVER that is a simple solution for YOU. For the provider that just got a freaking 6/6, she has no options. Nothing, her rating drops, and her ability to pull that rating up is diminished.
As I said I don’t think we disagree on much, we just stand in some different shoes. Though from what I have been told, you would not look good in my pumps.
Your post just now was longer than most of my reviews! And that's a feat in itself!
Guess I'll just have to stick something in your mouth.... lmao!!! ![]()
for the part where a reviewer needs to consider the impact on a providers business by, to paraphrase "going along with the way everyone else does it"
On that point I vehemently disagree. What Reagan is saying is basically that "several wrongs do make a right" and that the system is so broken that being honest is no longer an option. I just can't agree with that assessment.
A reviewers only concern should be to tell his experience from HIS point of view and let the chips fall where they may, very few hobbyists, and none that are familier with the system just go by the numerical scores. A 6/6 by the OP would mean every bit as much as a 10/10 by you MIkey, and if he were to ever rate someone a 7/7 a line would probably form around the block to see that lady, no offense Mikey, but your reviews are completely worthless to most hobbyists here, myself included. If you give out a 9 most hobbyists would think the lady must have a hump or something, your 10's are completely meaningless and don't do the provider or the guy reading your review any good at all. I much prefer candor.
Aside from that, I actually think that Reagan and I are not that far apart on the subject. Not to mention the fact that I have a hard time being rude to someone who makes a post as well thought out and written as hers, even if we don't see eye to eye. She must know the old saying "kill them with kindness" FWIW that strategy works a very high percentage of the time, it just did with me. lol
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Yes killing them with kindness was the course I took in graduate school. Right before lunch and followed by Oral Sex 403 "Methods for International Sales"
GA and I agree the system is BROKE. My feelings are if its broke, break it good. Our disagreement is where we do or don't believe that several wrongs do make a right.
We are simply of two opposing philosophies. GA believes in the whole goodness of the quest. Sort of the rigid father who lectured me and said " Sweetheart, so are you telling me that if Susie jumped off a bridge, that makes it alright for you to jump off the bridge? No it does not, so go put some panties on under that skirt before you get on the bus while I call Susie's parents "
While my attitude is " But dad, everyone of my girlfriends dress like this and if I don't fit in I will be ostracized at school and forced to compensate in other less tasteful ways."
My only concern is that the system is so broke that it can be inadvertently devastating. You don't stand in the shoes of the provider. A bad pick for you is a waste of a few hundred dollars. A bad review way outside the bell curve for us can be the difference between paying the mortgage or not.
We wont agree, and if I were GA I would see it his way, but I am still gonna complain. Thanks for being understanding.
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To point out that GA and I stand in front of different windows, yet we look at the same yard. And even though its the same yard, we both have different views.
Thats all.
Your argument is why I have been asked not to review more than once. I have a limited menu I partake in and they are afraid any review from me with that menu will hurt there business because I don't know their menu and TER caps based on services offers.
If I bought TER I would scrap the currant number system all together and replace them with "are the photos accurate and currant? Y?N" and "Do you recommend? 1= dangerous, robber, B&S, scam, LE, etc. stay away; 2= No; 3= neutral, not for me but you may enjoy; 4= yes; 5= Highly recommend." I really think it would serve everyone better then the joke TER has now.
As it is I don't think an honest 10 in service can exist in the hobby and a 10 in looks would be rare. I have not seen such a beauty in the hobby as the best looking woman I have ever seen works at a local fast food restaurant and people wounder why it is so hard for me to stay on my diet. LOL.
Having had mind blowing, in love, no holds barred, uncovered civvie sex in my lifetime. I can't see how any paid service while wearing a condom could ever surpass those experiences. So a ten in performance would probably never be a possibility in P4P NSA sex.
As for appearance, I have met some absolutely gorgeous women in the many years I have been doing this, women that either have or should either been beauty queens or graced the cover of a magazine. So yes I can see tens being a reality in the hobby. I've probably seen three or four tens in my three plus decades of enjoying this little hobby of ours.
As for the scoring system, maybe adding a decimal point, or at least adding half points could make the logjam at the top of the scale more meaningful, but I blame this on the reviewers, so many of these guys are so easily impressed and so many more want to curry favor with the ladies that even if we had a scale from 1 to 1000, some asshole is going to wnat to give some sweathog a score of 1001, we can't really fix the system without fixing the reviewers themselves.
I have on TV,movies, porn, escorts, real life only seen one 10 and she works at a burger joint of all places. Yes I have fucked a national level beauty pageant winner in the hobby but she was not a 10 only a 9.
I don't take it quite so literally.
I doubt very seriously that you are a harder grader than me, your definition of a ten just differs from mine, but our respective definitions of what constitutes a 7,8,9, or ten are closer together than that of the average reviewer here. I simply can't believe how many very average looking women rate tens in the reviews. I think you agree that grade inflation has rendered the number grading system completely worthless.
And yes the number system is worthless. See my post below for for a more complete list of why I hate TER number system. I would review much more often with out it.
most discussions around here get so hung up on "I'm right and you're wrong" that the matter of perspective is completely overlooked
We do both agree that the system is broken, but I see reviewers like the OP as the solution and you see him as the problem. I think we can both agree that "if" all reviewers could be more like the OP the problem would be solved as their would be consistancy in ratings and 6 would become the new 8 with the added benefit that truly exceptional women would have the opportunity to seperate themselves from the psck. I personally feel that this would be the perfect solution but that it is unfortunately a pipe dream.
The problem with the system as it stands now is that with the upper end of the scoring range is the norm ratheer than the exception, there is no way that the true superstars can really stand out, when there are literally dozens of providers with 10/10s and hundred with 9/9s and above, do these scores even have any meaning? I vote no, and I think that you will agree with that as well.
I think where our opinions diverge is what if anything can be done to "fix" things, I believe that your feeling on the subject is "nothing can be done, let's make the best of what we have and not fuck it up further" while I am still hoping against hope that something can be done and that the first step is for guys to grow a pair and quit giving out 9's and 10's to any woman that has a pulse,
Since I don't think either of us is going to get our way, I think the only real option is tfor reviewers to basically ignore the numerical ratings and go by the information that is easier to trust like "are the pics real" and "are the pics accurate" and then view the pics and judge for oneself. The not so small catch to all this is many providers, yourself included blur their pics making impossible to tell if a woman is a 6 or a 9 based on the pics, and since we agree that the reviewers numberical scores are not to be trusted the whole thing goes back to being a giant crap shoot.
I guess I just used a lot of words to come full circle, but I guess the only thing I can add is I don't think a low score for a well known tough grader is a "kiss of death" for a provider, I will concede that as long as 9s and 10s are given out like candy, to not get one seems like a slap in the face. I will repeat one point for the benefit of the girls that avoid "tough graders" like the OP. If you take the chance and see him, and you manage to rock his world and get that first 8/8 or even a 7/7 from someone as tought as the OP, that 7/7 will be a bigger motivator to see you than a 10/10 from a reviewer that hands those type of scores out to everyone.
In a week or two another guy will cry foul the system, and we will state the same opinions yet again.
To GA, and all the others who so nicely tolerated the pure bias towards the provider I have shown, my eternal thanks
Thank you to all and sweet dreams to those of you on the east coast.
Why the hell did you not say, "Yes, Daddums," go put on your panties, leave the house, then take them off and stuff them in your purse? I always did that with my panties, and was a happy little slut.
PS: I love the idea of a schoolgirl version of yourself running around with any undies. You must have had an interesting adolescence.
that's tough. Reviews are for sharing our opinions with other hobbyists. Period. Any benefit providers derive is ONLY possible to the extent that reviews are candid. No provider is entitled to receive only ratings that cannot "hurt her financially". Her recourse should be to get delisted, not to rig her ratings.
The whole point of ratings anyway is that they are cumulative. Some are too high, some are too low. That's GOOD. Uniform scoring would be useless. It's silly to focus on what number any one person chooses. And if he's not one but two points low, big deal!
Dear Ms. Moore:
I know that you have had a fair amount of sessions over the years in reference to a previous post on quantity. With that said,what are the key components of an encounter that you try to concentrate on? Also what do you do to ensure that you continue to get high marks on the boards? If you had to ask a small sample size of men you have seen you two or more times what is the one thing about you that makes them tend to come back? Finally if you had categories, (i.e. sex, conversation,hospitality and intimacy) what percentage of the above would be critical to having a successful date and would you have it down to a science in terms of what would work and what doesn't depending on what types of men would seek your vast array of services? These are questions that other escorts who are just starting out should ask you.
Also other questions that you could ask men is what are they looking to gain from the experience. Also what is the most important thing to them in an encounter whether it be sexual,psychological, or romantic. Then once they know what they are seeking then they can make the right choices by looking at the reviews. Finally what is the one thing most of your clients would say why they would come back to you?
Do you talk like this in real life?
Percentages and categories? WTF are you talking about? Just ask the lady. Shit!
Gives me a fucking headache reading your shit!
I think you do it on purpose just to piss me and some others off, fucker.
Look at her reviews. She started a little over 6 months ago.
Matter of fact, sorry HH, but her first reviewer told me to run, not walk to the airport and fly to Phoenix to see her.
I respect that fucker, cuz for one thing he doesn't sound like a pompous ass, spewing out all sorts of shit that doesn't mean dick.
You might have a few more reviews than I do, but it's very apparent you HAVE to pay to get your dick wet!
Of course, DL is a horse's patootie. But I was looking forward to her response to his sappy post! Also wanted to see how long it took for her to figure out his "douche quotient."
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Honestly it is not a reviewer problem if the review itself hurt the provider financially this is a reviewers' site not an adverting venue for providers.
The guidelines re numerical rankings are pretty clear. I know because I've screwed them up myself and even gone back and filed a problem report to fix it. But despite this, mis-rankings slip in. Which is why readers need to take the numerical rankings with a grain of salt, throw away the "outliers" and go base on the Juicy Details.
It is difficult to argue too much about the looks number--it is so subjective to be almost meaningless. If they look like their photos that is about all you can ask. Your 6 may indeed be my 8. I have a friend who writes what I consider very accurate, honest reviews but we are about 2 numbers off in our opinions. He thinks big breast alone is enough to rate a minimum of an 8 no matter what else there is; I have given 8s and 9s to ladies he would swear are 5s at best.
Performance is a different matter, but still can cause problems. The rules are that if 2 or 3 items from a long list were available I can give her a 10 (though I hardly ever do). Suppose DFK and BBBJ are very important to me, and I value the GFE attitude. I may give her a 9 after a very satisfying evening. Someone else does not care at all about DFK and BBBJ, but wants a high octaine, dirty talking provider who loves Greek. He may think my 9 should be no more than a 5.
Looking at numbers will lead to much dissatisfacion. Read the words and see she matches your ideals.
I've long maintained that using a numerical scale to rate appearance is a fools exercise. My 8 might be your 5, and vice versa. Someone who pops a chubby over a BBW would look at the girl I think is the epitome of beauty and think "I need to buy her a cheeseburger, stat."
The only meaningful thing on a review vis a vis appearance is the accuracy of the photos. If she is not hiding behind something or doing the iceberg trick on a soft bed (with 90% of the bulk hidden below the surface) and the images haven't been photoshopped to death, then I can make up my own mind.
Of course, even within the current parameters most numbers are ridiculously overinflated. Seriously, does anybody think that 90+% of the women reviewed on this site are in the top 5% appearance-wise? Where the hell are all these model-material babes at the M&G's? I sure can't find them - what I find are a representation of the population, well turned out for the most part, with something for everybody to appreciate and enjoy.
I'll be generous and speculate that the women here don't all really think they are 9s and 10s - but it surely seems that they want YOU to think so. WTF is so awful about someone thinking you are 'attractive' or even 'nice'? Everybody would be a lot happier if TER would just drop the stupid appearance rating and hold providers more accountable for accurate photos.
The numbers are inflated and alwasy have been IMO. Hard to imagine that many guys are so easily impressed....but what do I know.
I think the verbage that accompanies those numbers is largely responsible. 6 = a "nice time", which is about par for the course in my experience, but when writing a review ya think, damn, 6 seems so low it's almost like saying she was no good when you compare it against the other scores. But in fact, 6 means he had a nice time (according to TER) - nothing wrong with that.
If you ask me if I had a nice time with the last hooker I hooked uop with, I would say yes. If you asked me to rate her on a scale of 1-10, I would not have said 6.
I say, either drop the numbers or drop the words. And even then, it's still arbitrary, but at least then guys aren't being led into choosing certain scores based on words vs scores that don't match the way most men think. Was this site really invented by a dude? Hmmm.
Puck,
I don't think anyone would argue with you. But until you or TER create a different standard that does work, and its UNIVERSALLY used, then you you have to live with what we have.
I have to say that your thoughts on "WTF is so awful about someone thinking your nice" are somewhat misplaced. This is a business, as much as anyone wants to call it anything else, its a business. On a scale of 1-10, if you could buy a product that was a 6 or 9 for the same price what are you going to buy? Beta was "nice" (yea my parents had one).
I am not advocating that we inflate the scores. In fact I feel the current scoring method is horrible. But its all we have to live with.
Where we both agree is where we ought to rate a provider on her photos. I am sick and tired of dieting and going to the gym so that this years body still looks like last years photos. If a provider shows up and does not look reasonably like her photos she should drop to a 7 right off the bat.
And if I walk TER will not let me review. No rating from me. If I could review not only would I knock her appearance but her performance would be a 1 "rip off" as that is what she would be as she ripped off my time. I do not put up with fraud.
I've had providers tell me when I ask, i could write a review if it's only a "good" one. Some reviews I had given a 6 or 7 I get a call from the provider complaining , or worse threatening to blacklist or call the russian mafia on me or something. So I had to ask TER to take down my unflattering reviews..more than a few times. It's not fair and it doesn't work. so one has to look at all the reviews and scores of a profile and make a guesstimate or PM a reviewer. The only way is having a poll for each lady with accurate pictures, or a current video or something like a porn clip and let everyone rate on appearance and then take a statistical weight score. It's not the real world with these scores. Or else every guy would have hot babes like Tiger Woods, all 8's to 10's. He certainly has stuck to an upper end score. Arnold, not so much with Ms. Baena, ugh a 5 or 4, and she knows it yet is happily singing Marilyn Monroe happy birthday about it cuz she's going to cash out.
Which is why the VIP is so important...to read the details. My 9 may very well be a 6 or 7 to the OP, but this is such a subjective point and arguing either way is a dead end. I feel that the appearance rating is too often inflated (and in part due to the influence having just had sex with a lady will do that). If you could rate a lady as if you saw her in a store would be a much better approximation of "appearances", I suggest that many of these scores would drop by a good couple of points.
Another consideration is that all too often a lady's (as in the OP's review) overall score and how she is now appearing on her local "top 100 list" can be adversely affected by this "low score". Many guys (including myself) will elect to simply NOT prepare a review so as to not bring about "board drama". I suspect that is a major concern for the lady in watching her reviews. And I understand how this can affect potential dates...but the name of the site is "The Erotic Review"...with an emphasis on REVIEW.
I'd be careful about slamming other people, when you post a 10/10 for a 41 yo provider who was an 8 on her best day (10 yrs ago).
....but I see them as well and figure that I must be reviewing against a major league player such as Brad Pitt or George Clooney.
Are you Brad or George ???
He just may be..wink.: ))
They are purely subjective. What floats one's boat leaves another's boat in dry dock. I almost never pay them any attention except to look for a pattern that may be "peculiar". That _might_ be a sign of review drama. Aside from that....
I read the review. If it is written in a way that captures or attempts to capture the moment in a way that isn't mere alphabet soup and appeals to my sensibilities then I pay it some attention. There are a few gentlemen who write reviews I find particularly influential. If I read reviews for a lady by unfamiliar reviewers I go through the extra step of reading his reviews of others to try to assess how relevant his reviews might be to my search. It is very important for me to get an idea of the ladies integrity in dealing with clients. There isn't a number for that!
It's a bit of work. Since I much prefer to repeat rather than randomly try someone new, I have the time for it. Everyone to his/her own method.
I do have to say.... looking at the pictures of your reviewed ladies.... the numbers you give are astonishingly low.
I've seen ladies cuz a buddy I trust thought I should. And some have cuz I recommended.
Just got done sending Reagan a PM about my fucked-up phylsophy on the subject.
But the fact of the matter is, word of mouth goes a long way as well as what you read on the boards as far as their reviews and how they interact with us heathen-monger, mother-fuckers.
What you two do with your time together, and the scores/ratings that are a result of, was a product of the time you two spent together.
What you do behind closed doors no one knows for certain but you two.
So take THAT into account when you read a lady's reviews. Maybe she did something 'special', or stayed longer than you payed for.
If that happens to me, you won't see it in my reviews... ![]()
hot babes, givin' it up for dough -- you're a hardass. i've been disappointed by some 9s too, FWIW. did the girl in your most recent reviews really have an ass like her pictures? that was some tush. man, pm me any time you see an 8 or above, okay? did her ass really look like that? i can't think of anything else. phyew. i'm an ass man, that was hot. wow. did she offer a services where you could just touch it or stand near it? i like that. she has some ass, speaks to me...
i participate with much greater frequency on a message board with a review system totally unlike TER's. the reviews are posted on interactive threads and posters can say whatever they want to say; they're not forced into the box of numerical ratings. oddly enough, i would venture to guess that fewer than 10% of the reviews in my particular review thread contain numerical ratings; and even for other ladies, though i don't generally make a habit of obsessively reading others' reviews, i'd say the number of those reviews that contain numerical ratings is fewer than 20% (maybe a little more for agency girls).
of course, beauty being 100% subjective -- and one's impression of a person's beauty being fluid, at that; the very physical beauty of a person altered by what they experience with them, and what lies beneath their fragile shell of flesh that may enhance or detract from a person's beauty -- and certain preferences being impressed upon us by the media, there will ALWAYS be people who are not satisfied by the numerical ratings habitually given by others. that's just the way it is and always will be. frankly, i don't have a very rigid 'type' and find women of most body types and ethnicities appealing, and i love all sorts of odd little quirks -- i'm sure that if i were a hobbyist, i would INFURIATE people with the scores i would give, because i interpret beauty itself differently than most.
still, the 'numbers' are clearly forced upon us here - and they all get mixed up because an interactive experience with a human being will inevitably be multi-dimensional (depending on the people involved). i really don't think it's as easy as some would surmise to put a whole human being into such a small box.
for some, it's easy. for most, i don't think it's quite so easy. let the flames lick me -- but frankly, i think this is a GOOD thing. we're all human beings and as such SHOULD have human fallibility.
If the picture is accurate. Damn, that's something, that girl's tush...
of course, beauty being 100% subjective -- and one's impression of a person's beauty being fluid, at that; the very physical beauty of a person altered by what they experience with them, and what lies beneath their fragile shell of flesh that may enhance or detract from a person's beauty -- and certain preferences being impressed upon us by the media, there will ALWAYS be people who are not satisfied by the numerical ratings habitually given by others. that's just the way it is and always will be. frankly, i don't have a very rigid 'type' and find women of most body types and ethnicities appealing, and i love all sorts of odd little quirks -- i'm sure that if i were a hobbyist, i would INFURIATE people with the scores i would give, because i interpret beauty itself differently than most.
still, the 'numbers' are clearly forced upon us here - and they all get mixed up because an interactive experience with a human being will inevitably be multi-dimensional (depending on the people involved). i really don't think it's as easy as some would surmise to put a whole human being into such a small box.
for some, it's easy. for most, i don't think it's quite so easy. let the flames lick me -- but frankly, i think this is a GOOD thing. we're all human beings and as such SHOULD have human fallibility.
The guys (and ladies) who are hung up on numbers are idiots!!!
We all have our own needs, wants, and desires. Some prefer a specific body, some prefer younger/older, some desire fetish, etc....
I prefer a mature/ fit woman with a great GFE attitude. Some guys prefer any woman who will fuck him to death. To each their own.
It's also unwise to base a choice of a companion on someone else's number. If I see an ad, or website, of a lady that consistantly receives 6s & 7s, but is someone who appeals to ME (due to the individual criteria we all look for), and we have a blast, I might give her a 9/9. Is this "review inflation"? No - it's "each to his/her own", which is why we're all here anyway. To paraphrase a common statement, "A wise gentleman is not ruled by the review numbers, but rules them".
you expect OTHER hobbyists will like her. That can only result in spongy-headed groupthink, which I bet some here would love to see enforced.
yes, the service is very, very important, but if you can't trust that a woman with a string of nines and tens won't turn out to be a fat pig, there is definitely something wrong.
and yes, I have seen women with loads of nines, and even tens that I wouldn't fuck for free, some guys on this board obviously have no standards, and I think that's what the OP is trying to get across, apparently with little success.
I would say she's at least a 9, possibly a 10 depending on what her face and tits look like. But everyone has their own tastes. That's why it's so important to read reviews-some guys give everyone 9's and 10's even if they look like Rosie O'Donnell, and some are nitpicky about every little thing. Different strokes for different folks. ![]()
Any number system is going to be flawed. There will always be differences in opinion from one person to the next. I don't believe a review should be rejected because it differs from other reviews as long as you are giving an honest review. How does TER know if you are being spiteful if it differs from every other review? Maybe this girl did something you didn't like and you are taking it out in the review. Although, again, i believe it still should be posted, for as long as they are going to use a number system, you have to live with the results.
My last review i gave the girl the only 10's i have ever given out because to me she was perfect. She was exactly what i have been looking for, so i used the system available to show it. Someone else might not see it that way but my review reflects how i see it. For now this is the system they have.
I don't think you are part of the problem, IMO a high score by you would mean something to me as you don't just throw high scores around like candy.
I don't really know if the system itself is flawed, but rather the guys that review seem to either have no standards for appearence or have been browbeaten by the ladies into grade inflation. I don't think any objective guy could argue that on a scale of 1-10 that average should be 5, on TER a score a 7 is analogous to average, which means the scores are indeed skewed about two points high. Maybe we need to change the system to 1-12? lol
I have a few reviews and most of the girls score 7's and 8's. That is because I pick girls with pics that I am attracted to.
You can only judge scoring equal to the reviewer's other reviews. I get tons of info from maddogwill's reviews because they seem consistent. Who cares what the numerical value is?
For me, a 7 is an attractive girl that I look at more than twice. An 8 is one that I truly lust after. A 9 is the cover of SI or Victoria's Secret (you won't see many of those in my reviews but yes, there were some). A 10 does not exist, at least not yet.
As for the performance side, same thing applies. I have seen lots of girls that can check off the the "extra" services that raise the rating....but with no spark they are still provide an average session.
Bottom line....TER provides the data. It is our job to analyze the info and not worry about numbers!
It is completely useless to me. It does not allow me to fairly evaluate many of my best encounters so I choose not to review my best sessions because of the number system as it stands. I have nothing positive to say about TER number system. The currant system is flawed beyond repair in my opinion.
I am not going to retype why they are useless so I will just cut and past a post on the subject posed by me.
"First, numbers on TER are meaningless. They give no explanation on what happened for such a score to be justified. Was chemistry off or was she having what seemed like an off day? Photos currant and accurate? That could change since the profile was written by her first reviewer. And some things cannot be communicated with numbers.
Then there is second issue called number inflation where guys trying to win favor with an escort, brag, avoid looking like a fool for spending $1000 an hour or avoid unpleasant consequences artificially inflate the ladies scores. Plus some guys have such low standards that anything willing to suck there dick gets a 10.
The third issue with the numbers is it is all subjective. Like take looks for instance I do not like fake over-sized breasts but others love them. I would penalize a lady for them yet the next guy would give bonus points for the same thing. Some guys like certain acts more then other guys and rate them differently. Then there is this whole chemistry thing that can affect scores as well.
Forth, certain acts are required to get certain scores at TER. I do not participate in some of those acts so it limits the scores I can give a lady that I TOFTT as how would I know if anal, DFK, or more then one guy at a time is on the menu as I don't do any of the above with ladies I see professionally. For that matter unless I seen her in a dual how would I know if a lady is "really bi"?
This factor also weakens the numbers thing as well. If a lady gets a 9 or ten all it means she offers crap I don't care about. Some of the best ladies I have seen are not reviewed by me because I refuse to give a 7 to a lady that in my book has earned a 9 but TER will not let me give her that score.
So as you see from the above the numbers any numbers are of limited use. I don't look at them at all. I personally think they are a waste of bandwidth and discourage honest reviews. I know I have passed on writing reviews because of the numbers and the rules regarding them. I know girls have ask me not to write a review on TER because of TER's number system."
The only thing I give credence is the juicy details and then only limited credence to most reviewers. there is many reasons to write a not so that honest review and tastes and preferences very greatly. If you look at the ladies I have reviewed, my 5 is apparently someone else's 10 and my 8 is anther man's 5. It just shows how useless TER numbers are.
If you go by the TER number system in selecting you play dates you will be let down quit a bit. At least that is my experience. I quit even looking at them.
I am a provider and have 9's and 10's consistently. A few "gents" gave me 6-7's after I declined off the clock time with them. May you fall into that category, hmmmm????
We as men have different outlooks on beauty.