I never deduct for the cost of booze. If I did, the poor waitresses that serve me would probably starve on what my tips would be.
There are many places in my life where I try to save money, tipping waitstaff is not one of them. I tend to "overtip" by quite a bit, but I consider it "abuse tax" if I've run a three hundred dollar bar tab. You ever notice that the guy who leaves a benji as a tip almost never gets kicked out of the bar, no matter how drunk or obnoxious he is?
As for tipping hookers, there are so many variables that even trying to give a guideline is an effort in futility.
And generally when we go out most of us simply don't drink. How the fuck do you think I can afford to pay for hookers?
But honestly, I have NO problems being quite generous with a tip at a restaurant. Unless it's a dweeby guy...that doesn't work for me. But a cute little hottie....you betcha. I've often considered leaving it in an unsealed white envelope...and watch "her" expression LOL
Posted By: GaGambler
I never deduct for the cost of booze. If I did, the poor waitresses that serve me would probably starve on what my tips would be.
There are many places in my life where I try to save money, tipping waitstaff is not one of them. I tend to "overtip" by quite a bit, but I consider it "abuse tax" if I've run a three hundred dollar bar tab. You ever notice that the guy who leaves a benji as a tip almost never gets kicked out of the bar, no matter how drunk or obnoxious he is?
As for tipping hookers, there are so many variables that even trying to give a guideline is an effort in futility.
it's funny, we have had that very same conversation about envelopes about once a year for the last decade or so. If you go back seven or eight years ago my position was exactly what it is today, I don't use them, and I won't be "bullied" into doing so by hookers without a clue about why they are doing it, but several years ago I was one of only maybe two or three guys who refused to "play by the rules" The last time the subject came up, even about half the hookers agreed it was a rather dumbe idea.
My how time changes things.
Oh as for tipping guys, maybe it's from living in Vegas for many years where "everybody" seems to live on tips. Yes I tip the guys too, unless I get bad service, then I don't have a bit of problem leaving absolutely nothing, I don't reduce the tip to 10-15%, I don't give bad servers a single red cent, but I overtip everybody else.
And it wasn't 7 or 8 years ago...but rather a year or two (maybe three) ago.
I stopped using any envelopes very early on with this gig.
But I still see so many hookers posting that drivel on their sites...and so many johns still referring to it in a review...or a post.
Hence I made the reference here only for "effect" on how a waitress...who might be a hooker would light up seeing that "envelope".
I've never liked the tips game in any arena....but knowing that certain types of businesses only pay their help via the tip route...yea. And same here...I have been known to leave outrageous tips to gals who are pregnant. For some odd reason...it just feels good.
Posted By: GaGambler
it's funny, we have had that very same conversation about envelopes about once a year for the last decade or so. If you go back seven or eight years ago my position was exactly what it is today, I don't use them, and I won't be "bullied" into doing so by hookers without a clue about why they are doing it, but several years ago I was one of only maybe two or three guys who refused to "play by the rules" The last time the subject came up, even about half the hookers agreed it was a rather dumbe idea.
My how time changes things.
Oh as for tipping guys, maybe it's from living in Vegas for many years where "everybody" seems to live on tips. Yes I tip the guys too, unless I get bad service, then I don't have a bit of problem leaving absolutely nothing, I don't reduce the tip to 10-15%, I don't give bad servers a single red cent, but I overtip everybody else.
Extra time you are allowed to stay divided by 60 minutes times her full hour rate. So if she allowed you to stay an extra 25 minutes and her rate is $400 an hour it would be (25/60)400=$166.67 round that up or down based on the type of currency you have and there you have a reasonable tip.
Are you hanging out and chatting with her? I would tip nothing for that. Are you getting naked and going at it again? For how long? I would say you need to think in terms of her hourly rate and how long you stayed.
I've informed men "I'm in no hurry" with the next statement being "would you like to extend for a fee?"
There have been times I haven't even had to ask for more money. I'd just say "I'm in no hurry, if you'd like to extend (or spend more time together)." The client acknowledges that he will add more to my envelope.
This assumption and expectations about extra time started when the economy got worse a few years ago, but times have gotten better and some ladies aren't falling for that shit any more.
When I say no rush, I do add, at my invitation. The guys get it and realize that I am not expecting any more money.
Totally agree with your third paragraph, those days have gone but the mentality for a few stays. It is then up to the ladies to stand firm and it looks like some are, so way to go girls!
If you're just talking after you're done, then I don't think a Tip is required. But if you're still Playing beyond your Initial Time, then for sure you have to Tip. My Provider is really Awesome when it comes to Tipping. I ask her what she thinks is Fair and pay $50 above that.
I paid for the time I wanted and I am prepared to leave on time. If she wants my company, she can have it if I have the time, but I am not going to pay her for it. I am not there to fill a vacant time slot.
My not so humble apologies if I offend any manginas who get suckered that way.
Yea...plenty of mangina boys pay the hookers for this gimmick...you know it...I know it...breannabreeze knows it
Posted By: Panthera12
I paid for the time I wanted and I am prepared to leave on time. If she wants my company, she can have it if I have the time, but I am not going to pay her for it. I am not there to fill a vacant time slot.
My not so humble apologies if I offend any manginas who get suckered that way.
It was a joke, some nerdy humor for you but I've never really been good at jokes I guess. I frequently allow my favorite clients to stay longer at no extra charge.
Here are a couple of ways the conversation goes if you don't assume she's just granting you extra time for NO fee....
Escort: "I'm in no hurry."
Client: "I'm not either and I'd like to spend more time with you, but I wasn't prepared to do so if you'd like to extend ON the clock. Otherwise, I'd love to stay a little longer OFF the clock."
Escort Reply #1: "Yes, I mean OFF the clock, you sexy man, you! I don't want you to leave b/c you're just sooo amazing and don't want you to pay another CENT...no way!"
Escort Reply #2: "Ok, well I just wanted to let you know **I was in no hurry** in case you wanted to extend ON the clock. No worries, let's just connect next time."
First, clarify what she is interested in...ON or OFF the clock and proceed accordingly with her FEE or not.
why even bring up the topic saying "I'm in no hurry"..
Any reasonable man would take, "I'm in no hurry" as an invitation from the hooker to spend extra OTC time.. If the guy wanted to spend 3 hrs instead of 2 hrs, don't you think he would have booked for 3?
Please don't assume "I'm in no hurry" means "let's kick it off the clock." If she wanted to do so on the clock, do you assume she'll say "I'm DEFINITELY IN A HURRY, but I am willing to extend on the clock." No.
Informing you she's not in a hurry only starts the conversation of her being available and if that's the case on or off the clock.
And if someone says to me, I'm in no hurry, I would certainly perceive that as request to spend time Off The Clock. There is certain wiggle room for implying things in life.
The way I hobby I am not likely to be in such a predicament though..
If we're getting to the end, and she mentions staying longer, I just say that I hadn't budgeted for more than X hours. So far nobody has offered to go longer.
in the regular price. It is a marketing ploy. Charge the 90 minute price for an hour session. If she is a higher end independent provider; at least $400, it wouldn't be surprising if she allows "extra" time. In that case you don't have to give anything extra. If she is less you may consider just paying for the extra time or refusing it if you don't feel you really want that much.
I'll leave on my own when my time is up . When she pleads , please don't leave . We have a dilemma . My time is valuable also . I'll stay if I want to . I won't when I don't . If she tipped me I would stay more often .
I am always ready to leave within timeframe allotted but always willing to stay longer. I have stayed 3 hours before for a one hour date with no extra cash other times I have gave extra for a 1 hour date. And once I was given money back for giving to much and actually paid for 1/2 hour for the hour rate. But I have been seeing this lady for several years now on a regular basis so she's probably just wanting to keep me around for good business reasons. But for a new lady whom I enjoyed our time together I would tip say around 60-80 if I had the cash on hand and nothing more unless she was crystal clear to what she expected as she did invite me to stay after all.
It is up to you, but no tip needed. Good to do but don't have to. Now if she said "Want to extend" then you pay.
I have had experiences where I enjoyed the conversation etc and stayed. Rarely happens, but does for all girls at some point or another.
Don't let the gals screw you out of money! You either extend or not. It is a trick some do to get more. Just the same as a gal might text you out of the blue. Don't ever forget that mainly it is about money. Yes I will text a few regulars if I know they are having stuff going on to make sure they are doing ok, but I have known them for years. For me it isn't about making an appt. Most that is what they want though. So just be careful! Many of the good, well reviewed won't act like this. However some do.
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