Saw this on the TER survey archives:

HAVE YOU EVER HAD BARE BACK FULL SERVICE FROM A PROVIDER?
43%   Yes
56%   No

Can this be true that almost half have done this?  

That's a lot?  Very Surprising...

I hope that that is false reporting!  That is extremely worrisome, frightening, wrong, unsafe...good lord, the list goes on and on and on....I am scared to hear that!  Wow!

It depends on when.  For me it was pre Magic Johnson days, especially in Germany where I was stationed.  The women carried shot catds, so you had that feeling nothing a shot can't cure.  Then whenI eealized that not only druggies and homo could get it, I started to rap it up

for a very long time, Bare-back was not as uncommon or taboo back in the early 80's and before.

I know MANY top rated TER girls that offer it. They will never admit it on these boards, and of course they don't advertise it.

Hint-  many of these perennial 10/10 reviews for girls that look like 7s do it !

How many have ever had bare back sex with a woman they met in a bar or at a party? There is always a chance of contracting something without exposure. Providers are not a significantly higher risk in the United States than other sexual partners. Some times the pleasure is worth the risk.

Wow you have been hobbying that long, You are older than you look.



Thank you
2009 = 27

Liar

There are pleasures that are simply worth it.

Like our fowl friend and the rest of us old farts, most of the times were when a shot in the ass would cure anything you could catch. I do have to admit to engaging in BB with a provider I was dating within the last couple of years, but she worked in one of the brothels in Nevada and was tested more regularly than anyone on the planet.

I guarantee you she was safer than any civvie woman that I have ever been with, expect perhaps the last virgin I was with, but that was about thiry years ago. lol

that makes me feel ill...there are soooo many diseases out there, life threatening and non...but the consequences are SOO not worth it! Hobbyists: just think about how many people a provider sees in a day?! Providers: who knows how many providers that companion has seen and also what type of providers..ts/gay/bi/straight?! It is soo not worth it...

When a provider is willing to do bb services it means 1 of 2 things: a) she already has something and doesnt care about sharing! b)Is on a hard drug and doesnt care what she does just so she can feed her habit....just be careful guys...for your sake and other providers you may see.

I ride a motorcycle but unlike the young kids today, I do not pop wheelies in traffic, weave in and out of traffic and ALWAYS where a helmet.
I do not doubt my riding skills, its the other FOOLS on the road who can't drive.  Same thing, I do not know who the other FOOL risk when it comes to unprotected sex.

I am not in favor of BB, but there are times.....

I was exchanging oral fun with an adorable lady and then we began to rub together,  We both got so excited that we lost it and ended up bare back, She is mature, adorable, and I believe healthy.  She is not an addict.  We spent a long time together and then dinner. I am absolutely disease free.  I get myself tested regularly when I am a active. Now, much much agyer the fact, I remain disease free.

There is no excuse, but it happens and not only to low lifes.

-- Modified on 4/10/2009 2:03:26 PM

Last one just pulled the condom off and stuck it in when I wasn't getting off. Did an overnight with a famous provider and when we started fooling around in the AM neither of us thought about it. She was more worried about getting pregnant.

Some guys try to push it to go BBFS while others ask how much extra it will be to have this service.
I personally stopped seeing a regular client because he kept asking this.
And of course there is a lot of providers out there doing it!
I wouldn't, not even if he gets tested!

Beijos,
Lauren

The operative word is EVER.

I've only been hobbying 2+ years...  but when I was a young man I played the civie field bare-back.  The girls were all on birthcontrol & disease was not an issue in those dear gone days.  (late 60s on)
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I did it once with a well-known provider by accident; she forgot to bring the condoms when she was in a rush to meet me at my hotel. I have to admit the sex was great that night.

There can also be that unexpected oops when the condom breaks.  I suppose this could be considered BB.

    What do you think are the circumstances under
which a provider will offer the service, (BBfs).

for sure.  Today much more to catch and so much more to loose.  I have had BBFS lots of civie's in my hay day, but with only one provider in the last 5 years.  It was a in the heat thing, she slipped it in.  It of course felt great at the time, but the nerves afterward was not worth the pleasure.

JMHO

with a low probability per event and many events eventually it adds up. maybe each of those folks had one or two experiences like that in an entire caree of hundreds or dozens of dates.

it is easy to get overly upset about statistics like that. there is also the question of condom failure, rare though it is.

it is really up to everyone to play safe and manage their risks comfortably. a modest hobby career need never see BBFS.

well i feel a little provoked. but not much.

i recently posted on an occasion when i wanted to hand out a 10/10. the looks were, to my taste, earned. performance-wise BBFS was not a consideration, i assure you. my measure of performance is stress relief related and has nothing to do with menu.

my ex SO did it with me BB hes not a client and never was but with him I have always been a provider so if that counts...yes. Otherwise aside from the scary condom break I had once...NO Way. I cherish my life and honestly this is my job. Thats too dangerous and way to personal, no "client" is worth the risk.

is using an alias as even if you don't tell who it was with, some guys will check your reviews and assume it was one of them; even if you were careful not to mention it. Some guys will hound the providers you have reviewed trying to get it. I know most of us wouldn't but as a post last week showed some guys will always try to push for it. You may be inadvertently putting your reviewed providers in an awkward position or maybe costing them potential clients if guys suspect she was the one you had BBFS with.
 This is similar to putting special deals or favorable discount given to you in the public forum. It shouldn't be done.

a few providers i have become friendly with have told me horror stories of having "no end of hell" from guys pressing for services they didn't offer. in one case someone wrote in a review that she did Greek and she certainly doesn't. i can only imagine what a BBFS rumor would do.

the statement that 10s in reviews are a code for BBFS had to be challenged. i guess that i am glad now that TER knocked down a rating for me. i would hate to be responsible for putting a lady under that kind of pressure.

from the hobbyists and providers I have talked to over the years, I would say the number is more like 20-30%.  But that's just a guess...and that's just the people I have talked to.  It's still a lot more than many care to believe.

oh thats BS...

I ride and I always wear a helmet. Theres a rush that is mind blowing and then theres fucking stupid. I guess it all has to do with what level you want to risk your health and your life. I personally don't want to risk mine to that degree.
You want to play risky, thats what civie relationships are for. This is a business you are clients, although I may like you very much at the end of the day, I go home to my real life and leave this hobby at my incall, so to speak.

to report any hobbist who request BBFS to the National Blacklist, and DZ411

Wow.

Even if you were not worried about disease for *whatever* reason... you were willing to risk a lifetime of responsibility and child support over a morning of pleasure?

You guys fucking kill me sometimes...

It sounds like there was no rape involved so both people were willing to take the risk in the moment of passion.  If you mean you "guys" in a non gender specific way, OK; but in this case as in the case I described, both people got carried away.  

Clearly, as well as being gorgeous, you are a person who maintains her good sense even when excited; some of us blow it occasionally.

I feel sorry for all the ignorant people who think bareback is OK.  Especially the ones that take that thing back to their unsuspecting wife.

My advice for ALL ladies.  It feels the same to us whether the wee wee is capped or not.  WHY on earth would you take the risk of catching anything?

Give any man the option:
We do it with a condom on or we won't do it...

They will run for that condom EVERY TIME.  

You have the power ladies.  Don't disrespect yourselves.

Look, a pro getting carried away?  That's a death wish and a community hazard... I have nothing more to say about that.

A gent getting carried away?  Ok, maybe the odds of life threatening disease are low and you just went with it (though doing this with a pro blows my mind!  If she's doing it with you, you're not the only one.)  If you get a lady prego you've got bigger problems than what the health dept. is going to clear up.

I appreciate the compliment.  In 20 years I've had unprotected intercourse exactly once.  It was with a personal partner and I decided not to do it again, even within that relationship.  The little head needs to be told to STFU sometimes.

xoxo,
S.

and that there was not much thought at all before hand.

"When a provider is willing to do bb services it means 1 of 2 things: a) she already has something and doesnt care about sharing! b)Is on a hard drug and doesnt care what she does just so she can feed her habit"....

Without a doubt, that is the dumbest thing ever written on TER....The absolute apex of non-sense...

I've done BB with adult film stars, & I've never taken any drugs in my life....Hell, I've never even been drunk....I'm AIM tested all the time, so don't preach to me about health you arrogant, condasending, self-righteous jerk...

Before i became a provider i will admit to being "reckless" as far as protection and my boyfriend(s) go, but once i got into this business it opened my eyes to so many things and ESPECIALLY being EXTREMELY careful...
responding to what another person stated...a provider becoming "carried away" is not likely;I totally agree, "IF" she is a professional. otherwise, I wouldnt put her in the same category as I am in. I am a business woman and this is a transaction...me getting carried away will not happen...i enjoy entertaining but risking my life for an "extra" will never be worth it. I am always on point...its my job. I value my health and well being, (mentally and physically) too much to risk it for a couple extra.

Much less ask if she was on any birth control.  This is just stupid.

The price is HIGH.

It is rare, but when it happens, men almost always know when the condom breaks. It feels different immediately, (rougher/ more sensation/rip sensation) at least to me; but apparently ladies can't tell. Guys concerned about their health will stop. Should ladies be mega pissed when a guy says 'I had no idea..'?

True. I have seen a fair number of providers so far and more than 50% of them offer BBFS. Their age varies from 20s to 40s but mostly in 30s and 40s. They claimed that they get more turned on by doing it. I have 6 ATFs and they all offer BBFS.  

BS - or are you talking about your neighbors?

I have been doing BBFS with my 6 ATFs and they are all CLEAN and so am I. We get tested on a regular basis and share the test result. They are healthy lovely people.

Hoe many civilians get tested and share the result on a regular basis? I feel safer and cleaner with my ATFs!