absolute deal breakers? lol

so i was going through my corrospondance today, (my emails) and got curious,
and wanted to ask other providers,
what are your absolute immediate dealbreakers?
as far as things that you find to be off-putting.

for me, its people that excessively txt/email,
blowing up my inbox.
also trying to barter with things like giftcards
or coupons or free pizza (yes, someone actually tried...lmao... ridiculous)
or offering other non-currency. lol.
oh, and outright rudeness

what are yours?

happy holidays

- No respect for  time {Cancel  no  call no  show }
- Hagglers
- pic collectors
- timewasters

Posted By: mi55alice

so i was going through my corrospondance today, (my emails) and got curious,
and wanted to ask other providers,
what are your absolute immediate dealbreakers?
as far as things that you find to be off-putting.

for me, its people that excessively txt/email,
blowing up my inbox.
also trying to barter with things like giftcards
or coupons or free pizza (yes, someone actually tried...lmao... ridiculous)
or offering other non-currency. lol.
oh, and outright rudeness

what are yours?

happy holidays

Are you excepting regulars, cuz I'm looking for a regular girl that I can see 2 or 3 times a week, wat's your donation for that? Regular price what???? No I said I want to be a regular, you know see you 2 or 3 times a week cuz your clearly joking, even though I realize we haven't met & you dont even know my name, What's the lowest you will go, cuz I can afford like $150. My wife watches how much money I spend & I really can't get more than that out of the bank in a week.......
reg or new: any type of haggleling
Even if it's a regular, if they get on the phone & start talking about the price & what they want that day....I've dropped 3 regulars last month, I gave them warning about talking like that to me on the phone....
For new ppl........ I won't accept an appt with them if they ask for fs, or anything sexual on the phone or text or email..... Even if they talk in codes like how much is a trip to the islands (it's in the ad, but they get mad when I say that)....
For new ppl....... if they text more than a couple of times when setting the appt....(cuz usually they dont show up anyways, I've dropped several regs. in the begining over this cuz I caught on to what they were doing, they wud set the appt. then text all day until they got off from work then they wud just go home and not show up to the appt. or which I caught 4 of them doing this & they wud schedule with several different girls, then not show up, not realizing somtimes a cpl of us are at the same place or have run into each other that day) but then they go and bash ya on the boards but they dont ever tell the real reason (that we told them dont text us again)

Posted By: mi55alice

so i was going through my corrospondance today, (my emails) and got curious,
and wanted to ask other providers,
what are your absolute immediate dealbreakers?
as far as things that you find to be off-putting.

for me, its people that excessively txt/email,
blowing up my inbox.
also trying to barter with things like giftcards
or coupons or free pizza (yes, someone actually tried...lmao... ridiculous)
or offering other non-currency. lol.
oh, and outright rudeness

what are yours?

happy holidays

I can't describe it but lets just say that when a gentleman comes off as thinking he's in a position of power over me right off the bat his emails land in the inbox trash can.

There is an attitude that comes with some clients that's like "I know you're reviewed and your reputation is important to you" and I'd rather not deal with those clients at all than lick their asses to keep them content.

I'd rather just deal with men who approach me like a woman who they're interested and return their interest like a woman who is interested in them as an individual, not as a customer.

But yeah, excessive emailing, footlong emails with too much personal information, emails with personal information about other providers - all of this is a recipe for being ignored.
Add emails or communications that try to get all inside my head too ("Hi Provider-So & So, I'm really intrigued by you, I want to know what makes you tick before I book".  Yeah, delete.).

Re: Aw Shit! I was just going to try the pizza coupon thing on a date tomorrow. eom

Sorry PS. I guess your only option is to hold the pepperoni.


-- Modified on 12/20/2012 8:17:34 AM

My deal breakers are

Anyone over six inches

Overly demanding or whiney guys

Someone who wants a chat buddy vs. a hooker

Someone who needs a mommy or shrink vs. a hooker

People who write like R U avlb 2 nite

That's about it. I can take rude because I love to break in an asshole, so no issues there lol.

I have a boo boo on my 7 inch cock, and I need you to repeatedly pamper me, you bitch...LMAO

I can totally relate with the last one. I avoid contacting ladies, even if they got good reviews and all, if they write like that.

Hi London,

I didn't realize there were clients like Tony Nelson that fit your bill!!

I had one of those and I think they just want to know a little more about you....you know, much more than what you have on your website which is a tad intrusive, so I sent this particular guy an image of the inner workings of a clock.

Did not hear back but he sure learned what made me tick...lol

I always offer free passes to the Smithsonian's.....free tours of the monuments and gift cards for the National Mall !

I notice it tends to works better with women from the South.  Can't wait for London to visit .

Do you include the actual Washington Monument, or do you have them imagine it while they are taking care of your upright member?

with an appropriate response, as I have found that I just can't "put in a box" the only type of email that I will accept and reply to.   Everybody has different writing styles, so when I get the ones that obviously fit into the  "really, did they just write that to me" category,  I effortlessly send them back a standard respectful reply.   I don't always Respond very Quickly, but I do respond.

It's amazing as to how a "normal" response can come back to me in a good way, references are received, appointment is made and a good time is had by all!  

The only exception is the ones that are looking to trade services.   I have never gotten an appointment from one of those.  Which I am not surprised by.    But I like to think that a man would at least be impressed to receive a reply that is genuine and sincere and to the point.   Are there the guys that just want “to write to an escort” thinking they can have a “pen pal”….. ?  Of course there are.   And they are easy to spot if they reply without sending me what I asked for……info in which I may start the screening prior to meeting.

Pretty simple really.      
Thank “The Computer God “ for “Ctrl+A,  Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V

I've actually developed a few different "copy and paste" responses to the following emails from people I have never met.   Sometimes the same reply is appropriate for many of these……  Would some of these be considered DealBreakers?  Sure, but I like to think that given the right response a different outcome can be realized.   If not, what did I lose except "ones of seconds".  This is my full-time employment choice....and part of that is dealing with the different writing personalities that come into my email.

These are the types I am referring to....

“Are you available tonight”

Rude and Obscene (thankfully, I rarely get these)

“What’s your availability for next week”

Requests for more pictures prior to him sending info about himself

“I'm a photographer/massage therapist/ etc”...and would you like to trade services.

“I’m coming to your area in 6 months and I think I want to make the appointment with you Now” (Translation: they are going to write to me every week for the next six months….  Oh, and then have their travel plans change.      

“I’m new to this, I don’t have any references and I can’t have you contacting my employment. I’ve read your Reviews and I really think we would have a good time together.  I understand your concern for safety.  How can we set up a time to meet?”  


cyber hugs,
Portia

yeah...lmao.. pizza coupons. it was a while back, rofl.
this kind of thing has pretty much stopped though, once i'd gotten more
established in the business and they finally noticed i won't put up with it, lol.

and yes, i'd forgotten about the super-smug attitudes, and also that classic,
"how about next time is free, since i gave you the f*ck of a lifetime."
ah, no thanks. i'll pass
and no... you actually didnt
haha

and yes! yes! another thing i'd forgotten to mention:
the regulars that get obsessed.
this probably happens more frequently than anything else.
a few visits, and they're asking to move me in with them...lol

why the hell do they do that anyway?
with the scheduling and knowing they're not gonna show up.
this drives me funking INSAAAAANE..
it hardly happens anymore, but when it does it has me almost
yanking out my hair, lol.

oh, i couldn't agree more, i typically do respond to most, (like youd said...eventually, lol)
and have had a few turn out really well that at first i was thinking "oh f*** that"
i suppose i get burnt out with the emails some days.. lol... reading and reading
the same kind of thing, over and over
it's the same kind of tedium i've found with regular office jobs, lmao

and yesh... thank the gods for ctrl-v

Emails that say "Hello, ru available 2night?"Or emails that are written in text speak.
Another one is the guys who say "I tried to read your reviews but I'm not VIP can you let me know what is on your menu?"
Any email that inquires about rates when all that info is in my ads/website.
Or the emails where I have to exchange 10 emails just to get basic info such as a name and references.
Guys who double-book cancel the last minute and think providers do not talk and then attempt to book again.

Not exactly a post in the Holiday Spirit, but here we go.

I find the cut and paste standard short intro emails the most irritating. The ones that he "thinks" include his screening information but they really are a joke, e.g. "hi i'm joe, my ter id is joe69, i have 2 whitelists, can i see you for an hour and what's the rate?" - First of all, I screen via my website's form and I need all the information on there for a reason.. Your phone number, your physical description and a few other things are crucial to my screening process... Your 3-year-old whitelists from BellaBJ on Backpage won't suffice, I'm sorry. Second, I don't offer one-hour dates for people I don't know and that is not negotiable, because it helps me avoid those that I prefer not to spend my time with. Third, I don't meet anyone who isn't smart enough to find that information on my website. I built my site to be very simple, wrote the text at a 5th grader's reading level, so if you can't locate and comprehend my available packages and their prices, perhaps you should keep hunting on Backpage and find the girls that advertize in the style you understand, or better yet, get back to school and finish that 4th grade, it will come in handy one day. Yes, stupidity is one of my pet peeves.

The guys who try to evade screening and refer to their "important jobs"... I believed this excuse for my first few months as an escort, but I quickly realized that men in a position of power or importance were a lot more open about who they were, they just asked for discretion and made sure to see ladies known to be trustworthy. Their references always seem to be women I respect and I can always screen them in a few clicks of the mouse. I've met my fair share of highly accomplished men in LA, NY and DC, and none of them were evasive about their identities... So at this point when I get an inquiry from someone referring to his "high position of power", telling me that he cannot risk giving me any of his information, and then trying to proceed with his two references (who happen to be girls working with "male guidance" and advertizing $100 specials on Backpage), I assume that I'm dealing with the assistant manager at Target, and expect some serious haggling or overstaying. I prevent that with my delete button.

I will also no longer meet anyone who uses the words "bucket list", "backchannel", "discount", or "my hobbyist career", because I try my best to avoid the "hardcore hobbyists" who don't seem to have anything else going on in their lives except paying women for their time/sex/to pretend to like them/so that they can review them and gossip with their buddies about them. I found that those are the same men whose reviews tend to make me nauseous. I have a review that says, "Nora scored about 75% on my DFK meter." Those types of comments make me think that he hasn't gotten laid for free since 1969, and perhaps I should have quadrupled my rate... DFK meter? Really! Run Forest, the Math club's been missing you for 3.5 minutes!!! Anyway. I may meet those that used the word "hobbyist" and "provider", but I thread more carefully with them as well. I prefer to spend my time with gentlemen who enjoy the company of ladies, but who have a perfectly normal life otherwise, just like I do. That way I can have a passionate, fun, uninhibited time with him without having to worry about my personal details ending up all over the internet.

I try to avoid the severely delusional ones too. "I'm a 69-year-old gentleman who is really handsome and sexy and in good shape, I don't look a day older than 55. I saw the age limit on your website, but I really think you should allow yourself to benefit from the decades of experience a mature gentleman brings to the table..." Sorry, my rates are not high enough to cover the years of ongoing therapy I would need should I run into someone at a restaurant while dining out with a man older than my grandpa, and I have a feeling that being behind closed doors may turn out to be equally traumatic... No thanks. Another favorite is the "I'm a young, handsome, cute guy who really doesn't have to do this, I'm sure this will be a treat for both of us...." Sure, young and handsome is always a treat, but if you act conceited it's a turnoff. If you really are young and handsome your references will tell me so and in superlatives because it really isn't so common. Let them sing your praises.

I used to get a lot more inquiries from people who were not a match at all, but I think since I really honed in on my ideal client on my website and blog, those that fall outside of that range don't contact me that often.

*A client told me he was falling for me.  I won't see him anymore...no can do.  This is no strings attached guys.

*guys who want me to screen them by phone (actually had a guy tell me, DON'T EMAIL ME!  I need you to screen me by phone...after I replied to his screening form...sorry, you don't get my number unless you are screened and calling for directions on the day of the appointment.

*Any kind of arrogance but especially these kind of comments, "you are gonna love me baby!"  and also (someone already mentioned) the tonality of the customer being right...or "I have so much money I can have anyone I want" pretty much means you cannot have me...sorry I just have to prove you wrong, that being an asshole does NOT get you anything you want.

*I require a photo and if I get the feeling I cannot connect with you I can't see you.  I'd say I decline about 30 to 40% of people who want to see me.  Most guys are perfectly understanding of the fact that I do not want anyone to walk away disapointed so I do not want to see certain types that I will have trouble giving them the experience they deserve and are paying for--I'm not a good acttress...once in a while I get a douchebag who says something like, "your loss bitch, all the girls I see love me" ect...oh thankyou, you just proved that I was right about you.

*anyone who has excessive "costume" requests.  Do you want to see me, or do you want a dolly you can dress up?  "I like stockings" is fine.  "Please wear a half cup bra with matching gstring, fishnets, garter, either red or pink and have your nails and toes painted red" is a pass.  LOL.

*I can't read your website on my phone, can you tell me about yourself?  Nope.

*I don't want to give my personal information because if anyone finds out I saw you my life will be ruined.  Can you meet me at a coffee shop?  So you're afraid of sending me your personal information, but meeting some chic you know nothing about in public is fine?  What is your wife gonna say when her friends asks her, "who was that pretty girl I saw Bob with at the coffee shop today?"  Yeah, if you send a picture and pay my fee.  Anyone who thinks they are going to be the exception to the rule, LOL.

It's MY business bitch.  I'M the boss.  Get over yourself...wa ha ha.

Trust me, there's plenty where that came from. lol

Thankfully I can afford to be selective and spend my time with those that fall into my desired age and IQ range, and who don't have any serious personality disorders. I will let other girls deal with the rest.

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% nice and sweet to those that treat me like a lady, those that come to me with the expectation of meeting a fellow human being for a fun, electrifying, sensual time, but I have absolutely no tolerance for those that think they can mistreat me because some other girls let them get away with it. I used to receive the most ridiculous, irritating, idiotic inquiries until I took it upon myself to blast them on my blog, and now I am happy to say that 9 out of 10 men who contact me behave like they would in real life, and that's saying a lot. If they give me the same respect I give them while using some common sense, they will meet Nice Nora. If they don't, they will be re-directed to my blog.

And good for you...whatever works best for you is certainly the way to go.

BUT...you and the other hookers should (and in most cases) know that many guys rarely give out their TER handles as "screening".  Sure you have those guys that think it's in their best interest to "be honest" about that shit...but many of us have learned that isn't the case.

Some..or I should say..most gals could care less about some guys "conquests".  Heck, we've had some entertaining discussions with folks here debating the value of using reviews so that the hooker can get a feel for the johnnie boy.  I say BS on that nonsense as john is the shopper and has decided that jane is the hooker he wants to rent.  And if johnnie boy sends jane his hobby info for screening...all should be a nice afternoon.

Hookers who post that they are "exclusive" make me laugh.  If you're that fucking exclusive get off of these boards...delete you profiles...don't post on here..and get all your other ads off all those sites they are on (like the SD/sb malls).  Otherwise...you're fair game despite your protestations on some website.  Heck...there's enough OTH hookers who babble daily here about who they will see.  And again...I call BS on that as well.  If you've got your rent paid..you car payment covered..some shopping money sure...you don't need to see anyone today.  Tomorrow is another day however.

Glad you've made it to a point where this is only "part time" as you claim.  I hope that is true and that you are really able to enjoy this world for what it is.  Not all (frankly very few) gals are in that position.  So just as I learned many years ago, the mirror test is for those first starting out.  Once you gain a following you can and should kick out those B and C customers.  I do it every year and consult with others on how to do that as well.

So you and I are on the same page.  I don't see overtly narcissistic hookers or OTH hookers that need a gym membership for Christmas (heck..they wouldn't use it anyhow).  And you don't want to waste time with dick clients who have a 4th grade mentality or the octogenarian (but maybe if it was Sean Connery  LOL).

One other thing to consider my dear...most gals claim to screen...but many of them don't.  I'm sure that's not news...but it is my observation of many of the gals that I know.  Fortunately this hasn't blown up in their faces...yet.  But it's also quite easy to read some emails and have a pretty good idea of who you/I are dealing with.

FWIW most of the hookers that I like to spend time with don't post here...don't advertise...don't highlight anything about themselves.  Those are the gals that just go about their business and don't waste anyone else's time with drama.

This stuff seems like basic common courtesy.  Your blog was more traumatic for me!!

1. The clients that show up 15-20 minutes early( like we don't appreciate our free time, or use it as an attempt to overstay)
2. The guys that call OVER and OVER, if I don't answer, text or email, WTF !!
3. I don't screen over the phone(only via email or screening forms), I can't stand when clients call and ask a million stupid ass questions that are all available on the ad or the site
4. Like another poster said the costume requests that are over the top, especially when they requests a million things the day of their appt.
5. I run an agency, so the clients that nitpick and complain about stupid shit. They came 2-3 times in a session but complain about her split ends, a broken nail, she only blew him for 5 minutes instead of 7, there was a towel on the floor etc
6. Clients who look for ANY reason to try and get a discount, (ie told to wait 5 mins, cancelled the day of cause of emergency
7. I send out an email saying provider A, B, and C are available in your area all week, then I get an email or phone call where a client says is provider D available (NO) oh well is provider E available(NO) oh what about provider F (NO) oh ok what about tomorrow........(CLICK) dont you think if provider D,E, and F was available I'd put it in the newsletter
8. The clients that get obsessed with my ladies


Drives me crazy

There are some truth to what you said but the way you said it really turn off many potential clients, in my humble opinion. But I guess you don't really care because like CPA said; you have enough business to cover your rent, car payment and shopping money. I still remember you used to work for an assembly-line agency in DC that got busted, so there is no need to get snotty.

I'm not really sure why you took it upon yourself to unleash on me what seems much more like a rant than my post, but my words must have touched a nerve with you. Maybe my style doesn't sit well with you, which is fine, not everyone is a match. When someone meets me, this is how I am, and it works for those I meet, doesn't work for others. It's much better to know in advance whether someone is a match. Regardless, I will respond to the relevant points.

You say some guys don't give their TER handles to "hookers". That's perfectly fine. Believe it or not, I can still recognize a “board hero” from a mile away. I don't care whether someone is or isn't a member here, I care about being treated as a human being, not as "just a hooker". I also don't treat anyone as a "johnnie boy" as you call yourself...

I have had my fair share of disappointing and awkward encounters in the very beginning with men who were not a match for me and it felt like utter torture, so I don't do that anymore. I worked for an agency a while ago (for a total of 11 days if I remember well) and that was every escort's ultimate nightmare. My mind blocked out most of it as a comping mechanism, I guess, but it was every bit the worst of hells you can imagine... Let's just say I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. I will never willingly put myself in that position again.

You feel that you are the "shopper" and you are buying a product. Hopefully the women you see believe that. In my world, you are asking me to meet you and I either accept or decline based on the information you give me and the attitude you display. The money you are paying me makes up for your age and your looks, but it does not make up for a foul attitude, so if that's present and obvious, there is no point in meeting. When I meet someone as Nora, I want to have a good time too, simple as that. I plan to have this as a side income for a few more years, and I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to do something she hates… So I stick to what I know and like. Spending time with other respectful grownups who can express themselves freely and let go of their inhibitions while enjoying each other’s company is what I do best.

It always shocks me when someone feels the need to resort to namecalling when addressing a woman he doesn’t even know. As I’ve said it before, I see men who treat me as they treat people in the rest of their lives and that is not a question of exclusivity, it’s a question of self-respect. If I let someone degrade me for a few bucks, I doubt I would be able to carry on in my life. Hopefully the women you see are “stronger” than I am and they don’t mind your namecalling, but personally, I don’t want to be in a room with someone calling me a "hooker" and telling me what I will or will not do when my rent is due. By the way, believe it or not, I own my home, I have a mortgage to pay, not rent, and it's getting closer and closer to being paid off thanks not only to my adventures as Nora, but to my j-o-b. Perhaps you should re-examine your assumptions about women who choose to work as escorts on the side... I don’t play the humiliation game: if someone gets off on trying to put me in my place, he has a whole another thing coming. I believe in giving people the respect they deserve, which is why I do not see those that cannot even address me by my name. “Hooker” is not my name.

Your response to me seems to assume that I am (along with "other hookers") in a state of desperation but protesting otherwise, and that my posting on this board is a clear sign that I need to drum up business from any- and everyone willing. You are entitled to your opinion, however far it maybe from the truth, but your disrespectful tone and your anger is unwarranted, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who finds it a total turnoff.

The rest of your post is about other women, I cannot talk about their screening/board posting/shopping/etc habits.

-- Modified on 12/20/2012 1:41:59 PM

You can keep it, get over it. Who gives a shit.

Posted By: mi55alice

so i was going through my corrospondance today, (my emails) and got curious,
and wanted to ask other providers,
what are your absolute immediate dealbreakers?
as far as things that you find to be off-putting.

for me, its people that excessively txt/email,
blowing up my inbox.
also trying to barter with things like giftcards
or coupons or free pizza (yes, someone actually tried...lmao... ridiculous)
or offering other non-currency. lol.
oh, and outright rudeness

what are yours?

happy holidays

Websites without rate information ask you to contact them. Just like said, it is your problem. Not having rate information is my problem too and I handle by not calling the them. Everyone gets along,

WTF? Writing novel bad novel?

Lot of people said a lot of things today. Some lied, some cheated, so what?

You just never know who you might meet  

An obligation to see any and everyone coming my way? I've been there, done that. Yes, I worked for that agency (I am not sure if I am allowed to name them here), as my follow-up post mentions, and I've always been very open about the effects of that experience on all my decisions as an escort after I left them. The 11 days I spent with them were THE single worst experience of my life and I wish I could turn back the time and erase that nightmare from my memory. I got a taste of what it is like to be at the mercy of others, what it is like to not be shown the most basic respect I took for granted before, what it is like to see men who are not in the least interested in seeing me as a person, but as a "pump and dump site"... And the worst of it is that I have myself to blame for it, because I didn't do my research and didn't realize how different working for an agency (or at least that one particularly) would be from working independently. Some are cut out for that type of work, I am not. That agency is no longer in business due in part to their screening methods (or lack thereof) and due to the fact that some of the girls who worked for them had enough of the treatment I've experienced... But there will always be similarly ran agencies to replace them, and there will always be girls who are naive enough (like I was) to think that they will meet the same men, for the same kind of experiences they would as an independent. The truth is very different.

After that experience I made it a point to never meet anyone who gets off on disrespecting me (as many of that agency's clients did), never run a high volume horror show (as that agency did), never meet anyone I'm not 100% comfortable with (because when I worked for the agency, I never knew who I was going to meet next, and I was a ball of nerves every day... you cannot understand the anxiety of sitting in a hotel room waiting for a strange man to show up in your room and having to act like you are fine with that, and trying to deliver a "performance" 3-5x a day... unless of course you have been there and done it yourself, as a male escort). It is physically, emotionally and psychologically draining, incredibly harmful for anyone who isn't prepared to deal with the effects and the consequences of doing it long term can be devastating. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. Anyone who says that she is happy to see any and every man that comes her way is lying - or is very, very much in need of the money derived from this endeavor and will compromise her well-being in exchange.

So it is not a question of being snotty, it is a question of wanting to remain sane and wanting to enjoy myself. Yes, I am very fortunate to not have to see everyone that inquiries with me, and I definitely feel that turning off some is a good thing and a must. If I didn't want to turn off those that are not a match, I wouldn't have said what I said on my post, on my website, on my blog. Letting my preferences be known helps me cut down on the screening time and it's a win-win for both me and the potential client.

If you are implying we've met... lol
I'm sorry to disappoint, but even when I go on tour I don't see that many gents to not remember every single man I meet and I sure didn't meet anyone who called me a hooker or disrespected me in any way.

Raise the minimum rates to XXX for $$$.

And voila...the joe blows (not johnnie boys) won't come a knocking.

But to go off and put that other bullshit out there is...bullshit!

Some will buy it...some won't buy it.  Obviously I'm not a buyer of bullshit.  Call it what it is...you don't want to see a one hour suck and fuck.  No issue...but to put the crap of "connection" out there with some random john that you might spend a couple of hours with...sure..whatever you say.

I like gals who are straight shooters...but fortunately many like the illusion of exclusivity.

So fear not...most of the lonely boys won't question the crap on a website.  They'll ignore it as drivel...but won't ask about it.

The gals that I've gotten to know over the years are also straight shooters.  I quickly dismiss the narcissists from my presence.  Many of these gals are not fuck buddies either.  I like the honesty that many gals present here...and have a very strong disdain for overt narcissism.  You've babbled that you have already morphed once in a short period of time.

Perhaps you'll do it again?

As I posted in my initial post here...I don't imply that you are anything other than what you want to be.

This is a game...and I know the rules.

But on a public discussion board...the rules don't apply as if we're BCD.

But after getting to know a gal...the realities of what and who we are generally is never an issue.

And wouldn't be with you either.  Contrary to what you would like to believe...you are a hooker.  And Nora..and anything and everything under the sun that makes you happy  

And you'll recall I never use my TER ID when setting up sessions  LOL

Sorry, can't follow your logic. I "morphed"..? I don't even know what that means.
And I'm sorry but I don't make it a habit to ask for advice regarding my rates from hobbyists. The rates I've set work just fine, but when I am ready to raise them I will do so, thank you very much.
I'm not sure why you care about what other men and women do. I usually stick to talking about what I do and I find that it works best, since I cannot see into other people's head. I don't mind your playing shrink and trying to dissect me, but I think the generalizations take away from the value of your opinion.
If you don't like my type, why do you keep responding to me? There are plenty of one-hour "straight shooters" here, as you said, and I'm sure their posts speaks to you more, so why don't you just put me on your ignore list. Life is much better when it's spent with people you enjoy, not "bullshitters" as you seem to consider me to be.

A truly superior person does not act or speak as if he/she is superior to other people.  Unfortunately, that is exactly how I felt after reading your post.

The rules may not apply in the sense that there are no consequences to being a jerk on these boards as long as you don't reveal your handle in advance, but why be a jerk? What's the point? Does it make you feel powerful to come on her and call us "hookers"? I think that's more of a testament to your personality than mine.

I think this is where I will cut off the conversation, because I don't see at as being productive at all. However, if you feel that you have something to say that's relevant to the thread (about pet peeves), feel free to respond to the OP. I think everyone will find that more interesting than your attempts to belittle me, or any other woman on this board.

You "morphed" when you left your job with the agency.  YOU spoke of learning what YOU didn't want to do and decided to create Nora.  Shouldn't be that hard to understand.

Not offering up advice as you have your rates listed publicly.  And at those rates you have successfully eliminated those fuck and suck one hour guys.  Or should have I would suggest.  

This is a public discussion board and I usually comment on things that I find interesting.  If no one here cared about what others were doing/not doing then I doubt there is much left to discuss.  These boards are primarily designed for narcissists.  Very few here don't fit that definition...myself included.

And one doesn't really get to know another person in a short 2-4 hour window of time.  At least that isn't the way it works for me.  But if you are able to know someone in that timeframe...good job on that.

And now that we've actually had somewhat of a dialogue here...you're dropping the silliness that you started out with.  And that I find is a good thing.  Maybe not the most PC way to discuss life...but also not sugar coating the realities of this game we all play.

Posted By: NoraDiAngelo

Sorry, can't follow your logic. I "morphed"..? I don't even know what that means.
And I'm sorry but I don't make it a habit to ask for advice regarding my rates from hobbyists. The rates I've set work just fine, but when I am ready to raise them I will do so, thank you very much.
I'm not sure why you care about what other men and women do. I usually stick to talking about what I do and I find that it works best, since I cannot see into other people's head. I don't mind your playing shrink and trying to dissect me, but I think the generalizations take away from the value of your opinion.
If you don't like my type, why do you keep responding to me? There are plenty of one-hour "straight shooters" here, as you said, and I'm sure their posts speaks to you more, so why don't you just put me on your ignore list. Life is much better when it's spent with people you enjoy, not "bullshitters" as you seem to consider me to be.

Sorry to have infringed on your surreal understanding of what you are doing.

It won't happen again  

It is simply a post in my voice - which some like, some dislike - in response to a thread posted by another woman. I don't try to pretend to be everything to everyone, I don't have the acting skills necessary to do that, and the desire to do it is in short supply too. You will not see me posting, "I love all gents, young or old, short or tall, one hour or ten, come one come all..." because it's not true. I have met men from all walks of life, I know whose company I enjoy and I stick to that.

I'm sorry if reading my post somehow gave you the feeling that I am claiming "superiority" here, that was not the case. I simply expressed my opinion, told my experiences and anyone reading should be able to understand where I'm coming from and get the logic behind my decisions based on those experiences. I'm sure you understand it too, you just don't like my style of "delivery". There is not much we can do about that, but there are many different kinds of girls on here, hopefully some post in a style that appeals to you.

I played this bitch match game with CPA as well Nora, and ended up hog tied with clothespins, whilst I missed most every answer to his TER trivia game. It was quite fun lol. Put him in his place, and that's all that needs to be done. As for the other dude....meh, who gives a fk. If they think your post was 'snotty' they have never seen some of my work bwahahaha. Ok, I am not snotty, but just an all out BITCH! No joke I don't work a lot...how could I deny that when I am on TER 5 days a week. So you see CPA, I am kind of exclusive.

I really am done with this "conversation." So to make our "TER lives" easier, I will "drop the silliness" altogether and stop responding to you. Let's both find someone else to entertain us.

Not that I would ask a gal, "What makes you tick?" but, IF I did, and IF I got an answer like that, I would be even more likely to want to see her. Love a gal with a quick wit and sarcastic sense of humor, i.e. London, Rasha, Lina, and several of the ladies that post here.

And maybe our little Nora has already played TER Hooker Jeopardy...who knows  LOL

She did get off that "high horse" finally and decided to come a slummin' with us ordinary johnnie boys.

That was all I was looking to see...and she is OK in my book  

And you exclusive....shit!!

And you've changed the entire tone of your posts in this exchange.

See...you did morph  

Now maybe that will disappoint others who like that "high and mighty" type of post...but as I said I like the straight shooter.

Oh well...no way to please 100% of the people all the time  

But if you figure out how to do that...I'll represent you free of charge  LOL

Posted By: NoraDiAngelo

It is simply a post in my voice - which some like, some dislike - in response to a thread posted by another woman. I don't try to pretend to be everything to everyone, I don't have the acting skills necessary to do that, and the desire to do it is in short supply too. You will not see me posting, "I love all gents, young or old, short or tall, one hour or ten, come one come all..." because it's not true. I have met men from all walks of life, I know whose company I enjoy and I stick to that.

I'm sorry if reading my post somehow gave you the feeling that I am claiming "superiority" here, that was not the case. I simply expressed my opinion, told my experiences and anyone reading should be able to understand where I'm coming from and get the logic behind my decisions based on those experiences. I'm sure you understand it too, you just don't like my style of "delivery". There is not much we can do about that, but there are many different kinds of girls on here, hopefully some post in a style that appeals to you.

I feel like telling her to go fuck herself. One reason I avoid hags on 10/10 list.. That's my DNS list right there....

I will just take the high road and ignore her..

You know what, never mind. I was going to respond but there really is no point. "Little Nora" is done.


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I reward my clients for treating me like a lady, not just a "hooker".
They know that ultimately they're going to get my goodies, but the fact that they treat me like a person first & foremost gets them even more!

I have been with a few Ladies.Every one has treated me like a gentleman.Twould think all of us men would  be in butt to deal with and I THANK you for being there.You can get close to provider not in2 or 4 hours.I thank ATF.

Why is her post so different? A lot of the things she said are the very things I have said before, and the very men I won't deal with either. Yea, I love you bitches on TER, but that is why lol. If you were some chappy from some lame ass board, I would not even talk to you bwahahaha. Do I need to read her post again? What part pissed you guys off so much? I highly doubt she is referring to anyone on the GD.

I think you ladies have a job you can run it  any way you want to.If Guys don't like it stay away that just leaves more for me.Wish I could win LATO Lol.Keep up good work all you Beautiful Ladys.

is the "obsession"

The diference between how a hobbyist and provider defines those lines...

above average and only exceeded by your rates, you would not be the one I would contact if I were visiting the left coast. You appear to miss the fact that the hobbyist is the consumer and you are the retailer, for your time that is. Your attitude needs improvement and don't bother to say that you will break off this conversation, I'll say it for you.

I will give you the fact that you write well but your overall understanding of men and this "game" is lacking.

And I think she touched a nerve with about 3 on here.

So let me tell you the way it is...

Her whole attitude and tone of the post feels like all men, or most men by her standards, are piece of shit and her shit doesn't stink.

I never get that impression from reading your posts.

before. I don't want to waste time and effort only for her to not repsond or already be booked. If I get a yes response, I send all info in 2nd email and that's it.

and do you see similarities in clients who do it?

another notch on bedpost, call her hookers and just aren't compatible with her,,,she wasn't talking about all the men here,,,obviously she has reviews so she sees reviewers...what does any of that have to do with being the consumer? are you offended b/c u see yourself as jerk who treats women the way she described? if no, then you wouldn't be offended by her posts...
her attitude is perfect for the man who understood her posts and isn't offended in the least. $.02

she sets the rules. you don't have to see her if it bothers you. why should she care about clients that won't see her anyway?

It it ALWAYS better for a provider to be COMPLETELY clear what she wants from clients. Many don't acheive that and you see contradictions from their website to reviews or posts.

a necessary trait... Ocassionally, it gets out of hand.

his narcissism is mailgnant. No doubt a badge of honor for him.

Well said.

Posted By: NoraDiAngelo

I'm not really sure why you took it upon yourself to unleash on me what seems much more like a rant than my post, but my words must have touched a nerve with you. Maybe my style doesn't sit well with you, which is fine, not everyone is a match. When someone meets me, this is how I am, and it works for those I meet, doesn't work for others. It's much better to know in advance whether someone is a match. Regardless, I will respond to the relevant points.

You say some guys don't give their TER handles to "hookers". That's perfectly fine. Believe it or not, I can still recognize a “board hero” from a mile away. I don't care whether someone is or isn't a member here, I care about being treated as a human being, not as "just a hooker". I also don't treat anyone as a "johnnie boy" as you call yourself...

I have had my fair share of disappointing and awkward encounters in the very beginning with men who were not a match for me and it felt like utter torture, so I don't do that anymore. I worked for an agency a while ago (for a total of 11 days if I remember well) and that was every escort's ultimate nightmare. My mind blocked out most of it as a comping mechanism, I guess, but it was every bit the worst of hells you can imagine... Let's just say I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. I will never willingly put myself in that position again.

You feel that you are the "shopper" and you are buying a product. Hopefully the women you see believe that. In my world, you are asking me to meet you and I either accept or decline based on the information you give me and the attitude you display. The money you are paying me makes up for your age and your looks, but it does not make up for a foul attitude, so if that's present and obvious, there is no point in meeting. When I meet someone as Nora, I want to have a good time too, simple as that. I plan to have this as a side income for a few more years, and I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to do something she hates… So I stick to what I know and like. Spending time with other respectful grownups who can express themselves freely and let go of their inhibitions while enjoying each other’s company is what I do best.

It always shocks me when someone feels the need to resort to namecalling when addressing a woman he doesn’t even know. As I’ve said it before, I see men who treat me as they treat people in the rest of their lives and that is not a question of exclusivity, it’s a question of self-respect. If I let someone degrade me for a few bucks, I doubt I would be able to carry on in my life. Hopefully the women you see are “stronger” than I am and they don’t mind your namecalling, but personally, I don’t want to be in a room with someone calling me a "hooker" and telling me what I will or will not do when my rent is due. By the way, believe it or not, I own my home, I have a mortgage to pay, not rent, and it's getting closer and closer to being paid off thanks not only to my adventures as Nora, but to my j-o-b. Perhaps you should re-examine your assumptions about women who choose to work as escorts on the side... I don’t play the humiliation game: if someone gets off on trying to put me in my place, he has a whole another thing coming. I believe in giving people the respect they deserve, which is why I do not see those that cannot even address me by my name. “Hooker” is not my name.

Your response to me seems to assume that I am (along with "other hookers") in a state of desperation but protesting otherwise, and that my posting on this board is a clear sign that I need to drum up business from any- and everyone willing. You are entitled to your opinion, however far it maybe from the truth, but your disrespectful tone and your anger is unwarranted, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who finds it a total turnoff.

The rest of your post is about other women, I cannot talk about their screening/board posting/shopping/etc habits.

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Seems like you were leading the nominating committee.

Love your posts BTW.

Always so well thought out..and kiss ass. LOL

If she's a sure thing, shouldn't it seem more like a date with a fun, foregone conclusion involving a great looking woman? That seems simple enough, and might get a better response, but I'm a newbie.

and then do you ask about availability for a SPECIFIC time right off the bat? because if so , that is GREAT!  at least for me.   When guy I've never met before, wants me to give him a complete rundown of MY availability for an entire week, it can be a bit daunting, to say the least.  

Usually a guy will, or Should know some fairly specific times that will be ideal for him, so to ask in THAT way on a first email, without including all the rest of the info, is a good way to do it.

Hi Nora,

I used to work there & I enjoyed it!! Does it get lonely sitting up there on Mt. Perfect?? Just askin'!

encounters are exactly what you are looking for & so much more......
I turn away so many appts. but not because I'm a snob or think I'm better than anyone, but only due to the way they speak/treat me when trying to set the appt...... This I thought was a good thread for those to read & see why they don't get the appt. & learn frm it.....
I hav 2 different ads out in dif places, but my true escort ad I like it to be just wat you described, for the person who is attracted to my looks to arrive at my place & enjoy a romantic evening letting them feel like they are my one & only........& when they leave they feel rejuvenated & are left with memories of a very fun night.....
but sometimes these guys really blow it, like being impatient, calling for a right now appt. giving me 15minutes to get ready......or arriving early & I see them driving through the parking lot which makes nervous & chatty (cuz they won't do research & know their with a legit person or read up on how to keep theirself safe cuz it's ok to meet a female at a hotel as long as they don't talk about the stuff we've begged them not to)....& driving through the p.lot draws attention to them which in return wud draw attention to my room (just drive up, park, take a moment to take a deep breathe, call to say they are here, & come up to the room without wandering around like your lost)......

While others simply want to spend time with someone for the fun of doing so.

There's nothing on any post that ever offends me....but clearly many others find these boards and topics to just be too much for their precious little ego's to handle.

So as I suggested in a prior post to Nora...she has morphed her persona once (probably more..but she only discussed the change from agency to indy)...and now she has created this one.  If it works for her and gets her enough biz to cover her rent and such...no biggie from my POV.

Anymore than if you suggested that I change up my board persona for what you perceive as a better way to attract hookers.  Not interested TYVM.  I like my style...but if the day comes that I don't like it...plenty of other board personas to choose from.  And honestly...I've been a number of them already  LOL

Just remember that so few johns engage the hookers on a public board.  And even fewer hookers are here.  This is such a small piece of the pie it's laughable when folks think this is all there is.

It maybe could have been written without as much vitriol as you injected into it, but the point is well taken.  

It's true. T-minus two weeks until I go Def-Con "London", I started on my pineapple/crunches/yoga three weeks ago.

Being too grabby. I absolutely hate it when someone is aggressively grabbing my lady parts . Then those that ask detailed questions like "how many do you see a day yada yada "...or worse the ones that give horrible business advice when I don't want it. ~V.

I do too & sometimes I think I'm way too nice but it does come back in a good way more often than not.

You ain't this special Queen