The providers talk about how rude some hobbyist are, and the dumbass shit they try to pull, or just how they (the provider) are not treated with respect. These hobbyist don't really care if the provider has a good time or not as long as they (hobbyist) get off.

Whatever you're doing that feels right for you on how to treat a 'woman' not a hooker or provider, a WOMAN. I will remind most of you, no matter what world we live in, women should be respected for who we are and what we are capable of. Period.  

and if you point that out, he will be trying to redefine what all that is for the rest of the day.
Magic? Tell them to fuk off. Treat the women how you do best.

There is one, but you haven't reached it yet. We will let you know when and if you graduate from mangina school.

Providers can be quite content with hobbyists like me who are respectful, but don't worship them like they are the best thing since sliced bread. It is also the manginas that are more likely to be time wasters and stalkers.

Don't worry about giving hobbyists a better name. Just worry about MM and carry on the way you see fit since it is your dollar.

My bad, and I'm typing this from a smart phone.

Thanks, I'll accept that. I always refer to y'all as ladies, women, or provider. It is about respect.

I absolutely admit I lean towards the mangina side, when it comes to respecting the ladies.  

of course there is some middle ground...where did that silly question come from...your need to be acknowledged as something other than a mangina?

.from sheer boredom.. you don't strike me as the kind of guy that really gives a rat's ass what a bunch of misogynist cretins on a fuck board think of you or want to label you..

who for the most part can't make enough at the Piggly Wiggly...they sell themselves here.

ALWAYS call her a Lady or my friend, open the door for her, say yes Mam no Mam no matter the age difference , ALWAYS want Her to be happy with me. Be totally respectful to Her.  Does that make me a Mangina?  .

Of course it was about me jackass. I don't feel like I am grouped into one of those two categories alone.  

Who is on a pedestal? I didn't name anyone.

That is my question.

Man then Am I really a Mangina, I don't even do it behind closed doors. I am the third Son Ward an June would have had. Beaver Cleaver jr. LMBO

True I really don't care, I will lose NO sleep over it. It is just the back and forth mangina vs professional hobbyist  that has a way of just running away with a topic. This is a forum and discussions are supposed to take place.

Because they have pussies?  Seems that is the common issue around these parts...no matter how insane or BSC a woman is.

I have several clients who could charge for the BFE, but dont go crazy with it. But, you don't see them much on here. They don't need fellow assholes to join in on the degrading hooker talk, and they don't need to whine about falling in love to some strangers on the Internet. So if they do manage to stumble across a board, they usually just have a laugh and walk away.  

I will respect all women till she gives me a reason not to respect her. I guess that's just the way I was raised.

not just women but especially women.  

I also refer to them as my friends, so now where does that leave us?

Yes, there is definitely a middle ground. Unfortunately you haven't found it yet.

I find it amusing the CCPA, Panthera, Inicky, myself and a few others get the label of "board bullies" yet we are among the first to offer real, genuine help without a thought for what is in it for us, whenever someone genuinely asks for or needs help, whether that person is a man or a woman, or anyone who can do anything for us in return.

OTOH you have the suckups like the Dungbeetle, who thinks that endearing himself to the ladies is going to somehow translate into OTC time, discounted sessions, or some other tit for tat type of return.

Just something for you manginas to think about when you talk about us "board bullies"

Be cautious

So many of these mangina putzes confuse allowing anyone to shit all over them as a sign of respect.  And especially in this world...the hookers have years of experience in how to manipulate these mangina boys.

People love calling other people names to make themselves feel superior.  Are you happy with what you do?  Do you enjoy the relationship you have with providers (real or unreal)?

Be careful for what you wish for

There's a bunch that may fall off that pedestal and if you're under them...squish  

I resent you making fucking sense...that's not what this is all about  

how often has that really happened to you CPA?

Sure glad you haven't come over to the 'dark side'....I guess you wouldn't like it

or simply give them the impression that they are on a pedestal....al as it benefits me...wahahahaha

Because i do respect women, but that is just the way I was raised. I don't care if I see a hooker in a P4P date or if I see a civie for a date, i will always be respectful until I'm disrepected, and then my inner most asswholeness will come out. But most of the time I float around in the middle on this fuck board......................

Anyone who wants to give you a tough time for treating us with respect and appreciating us probably just doesn't want to rise to the standard you're setting.
I personally appreciate a gentleman who appreciates me.
I'll pass on anyone who doesn't without a second thought.
Sydney

That may be the saddest thing of all.

Be true to what you feel is right.

walk through the door with a smile on your face, be pleasant and respectful...until your given a reason not to be, then pull out your cock and beat her over the head with it😝

There's no one else who embraces the label the way he does.  But here's the thing, a bunch of us supposed "tough guys" respect the hell out of him because of his code of conduct and his complete decency.  So what does that make us?  Are we still misogynists?  Is he really a mangina?  Actually, I don't think so.
As for me, I don't really fit any labels.  I love women, especially providers...so long as they have their heads on straight.  In my book, providers (hookers) have made a brave choice and I love the ones who love the sex and the entire lifestyle of living outside the law.  They have more balls than a lot of the guys.  So I treat them with respect and admiration.  And I'll take them to dinner OTC any day (or night).  I've met some great women in this game and had very few disappointments because I do my homework and have some really good friends (guys and girls) who steer me straight.  It's really not that hard if you have half a brain and know how to treat people

Then again you probably own stock in the hobbyist kneepad co.

I've just put another call in for 5,000 shares.

Well, FYI........I own the patent! Hahahaha! I saw foresaw the need about 5 years ago and figured I should capitalize on the growing mangina population joining TER.

Who would have thought that the 3 of us would be partners. One other thing. Should we hire Taylor to tailor make these?

...start using that term in earnest until CPA did.  You mostly used it when addressing 'HookerWithAHeartOfGold'.  I always thought you were your own man, not giving a shit what anyone else said or did.  Now you are following like a little sheep.

I certainly didn't consciously avoid the term, and now that I think of it, I think I use the term more because of London that CCPA.

and truth be told, I DON'T really give a shit what anyone else says or does, and that obviously includes you, but I did give you belated props where it came to Gabriel Gomez.

There are many things we do because some one else started it, that doesn't make us followers, there is just only so much original thought, and anything that pisses off the PC crowd is just find with me. Given a choice between following something that CCPA did or did not start or following the likes of some of the completely spineless mangina types, I'll take CCPA any day of the week. Hey there's another word I obviously did not invent "Mangina" If my memory serves me right I "borrowed" it from Fuzzy after he used it to describe MSD, as pitiful an excuse of a man as I can think of. Does that make me a sheep like follower of Fuzzy as well?

That there are more than two groups of hobbyist. I have no fear if scrapping but chose my battles wisely.  

It is not going to be someone I have only met once or twice, because his ways don't come out unless he stalks me and annoys me outright for weeks on end. I demand all of my suitors to be respectful 'in person,' but I could not care less how they act on the boards. Most so called assholes are really just fronting...yea, I used that word lol.  

My way.

But reread the OP. At the end I say what I consider myself and asked if there was a name for that level.  

It was my point, I don't fit into any labeled group the way I see myself.

Well I would wish to take that as a compliment but don't think its how you intended it, LOL

I never bash lungman just because the crowd thinks I should, nor will I do that to anyone who has never wronged me. See you boys in 3 hours!

I said I respect all women until given a reason not to. Will not let any Woman shit on me. or man. Still would not disrespect them then, simply wouldn't have any more to do with them. Seems to me  were taking the word gentleman an giving it a name mangina ,that's stupid.

Son of a biaaatch....no wonder WOTW says this is my fault lol. Y'all suck!

coming from you, it would most likely crush him. If you ever do decide to bash him, make sure there are no open windows near his location, or what happens to him will be on your conscience

Now go suck some dick like a good(or bad) little girl. lol

lthough Chgcpa uses the dumb and BSC hooker taunt to get a raise, most of us don't even bother to defend something that has little effect anymore.I know he is just poking, he can't possibly be that ignorant.  

It is all in the impression or illusion and it works both ways. If the intent is not malicious, then have at it, do what works.

" I prefer people to be objective, fair, and call me out when I am acting like a brat...those people have my respect because they are more worried about what I am doing to myself, ".................When I act like a "brat" and a person calls me on it ..................AND what they say actually punches me in the heart.................... I know then that I RESPECT and care for that person !
I like the way London expressed this as well !
I treat ALL people with the character they present to me and others around me and evolve it from there.  
Act an ass .....................
Say "please and thank you " .........................

I will respect anyone who has shown me that they deserve it.  Hence my comments on "earning it".  Same as how I have to earn anyones respect.

When anyone puts forth their argument that is all that matters.  I may not agree and will discuss my POV and they may not agree.

Actually, Dungy isn't truly dislikable in the way Udo, simple and others are.  He's just lame as hell.  Not the worst thing in the world, I guess, but hard to watch on a daily basis.  And it's generous of him to be leaving the field open for others to win the SPOTY award.  Say!  Maybe that's it!  He's upset he didn't win and has flounced off in a huff!  Or rolled

But having a fucking blast doing it.

just what a 'mangina' truly is, because it appears there are differing definitions. I for one do not know exactly what it is. In plain english, is it a man that acts like he has a pussy then but doesn't know how to truly 'respect' a woman and thinks kissing up to her is 'respect'? That is different in my book than a man who has the cohones of a bull, a 'true man' but is so damn respectful and hot in that respect, you can't NOT want him. THAT, my friends, is what typically drives a lot of women crazy (me included).  

at quick glance, I have one thing to say which you probably all don't want to hear but I'm going to say it anyway.  

But you still needed to put up this reply.

It is not as funny for others the 12th time you point this out but I am so glad you are enjoying yourself.

Since you haven't met my Mother...you would be shocked to know that she taught "us" to be cautious.  Not to be disrespectful upon an initial meeting...but certainly not grovel to anyone either.

When I'm trying to invoke humor you'll know it.

Describes me so well it's as if you have been stalking me... have you been stalking? LOL

Of course there is a happy medium. Doesn't mean everyone can find it.  

So if I bought a gal...err, hooker a gift and refused to give it to her....ugh, what does that mean?

happy to see a man own up to his 'manliness' and in that I mean 'respecting' a woman and doing the little things. Those are so important for most of us, not all that's for sure, but I'd like to believe ladies will still be ladies even in today's world (altho most scare the crap outta me haha).  

I stayed awake all the way till the Hawks popped that goal in triple OT.

Whoa, who the fk let your ass in here? Go back to the P and R board!!!!

You are also incredibly hot!  Ever come to NY?

I try to be the best mangina I can be!

I am thoroughly and totally in love with a sex worker. Hell, I am even married to her. I hang with her all te time. It is almost like I am stalking her as often as I see her. LOL

Actually, your original usage was correct.  The phrase is happy medium, with medium meaning middle ground.

Your posts on the newbie board have been downright  helpful without being preachy. Kudos. BTW you might think I am an asshole without the temperament to help the newbies, but believe it or not, I actually moderated that board for about two years.

AAR, I think your definition of what constitutes a "mangina" at least by TER standards is spot on. IMO a mangina confuses "sucking up" with respect, and thinks that blindly kissing the ass of every woman is going to curry favor with them. That's the real difference between a "gentleman" who respects women, and a mangina who simply kisses up to them IMO.

BTW I may end up liking the new Taylor, and don't worry there will always be new board trolls for me to fuck with, so there will be plenty of cannon fodder for us "juvenile board bullies" even if you are no longer a target of our rapier wit. lol

I am sure by now you have noticed that I/we don't fuck with everybody, but some people just beg for it. You used to be one of those people, but as your attitude seems to have changed, you'll most likely notice the way you are treated here is going to change as well.  Welcome Back

I treat my dates very well, well enough that some of my paid dates have turned "real", but I am the furthest thing from a mangina that you will ever meet.

A mangina and a gentleman are two very different things, although I will confess the lines sometimes get a bit blurry here on TER.

Let me give you an example of the difference.

A gentleman stands up for a lady who is being wronged, without any concern for himself. A mangina stands up for all women (behind the safety of a keyboard of course) whether she is right or wrong, with the hopes of currying favor from her.

es, it was for you..