The need for sleep intrudes upon the time for an overnight. The provider feels they don't get enough sleep which interfers with her next day and the hobbyist feels that they are not getting their money's worth as a good part of the time is spent sleeping.
So why not offer 12 hours sessions from, say 10 AM to 10 PM?
The provider doesn't miss out on their sleep, the guy gets to be with a conscious person the full time and the couple can arrange for stuff to do like dining or movies or whatever.
You can meet in the morning for some HuHa, go out for lunch. Depending on how you feel you can take a walk or whatever, have dinner, bumbum, cuddle, and say BaBay.
On second thought, holding or being held by a beautiful women during the night is nice too... I think both options have their pros and cons. It all depends on how much mula it costs me I guess.
I would be very interested in an "overday", as you say. The 12 hours could be filled with a variety of activities. My concern would be that the rate structure would probably be different because the "awake time" together would go from around 6 hours on an overnight, to 12 hours for a day appointment. Would the rate then be double what the overnight rate is? I'm interested in the providers' perspective on this. Very interesting idea.
Great idea but it would be even more important for the couple to make sure they are compatible. Oh, and that they have their vortex repellers available.
I, for one,would take anyone up on it! I already have an 8 hour Golf Package that everyone loves! And they always get a hole in one!
I've had overday appointments, if it's 12hours then it's the same as my overnight rate. Remember, you're paying for time, it doesn't matter whether we're sleeping, golfing, eating, talking, or indulging in each others animalistic natural instincts.
Wandering around Brooklyn Heights, then going to federal court where I (as a lawyer) had to appear before the judge for a status conference. The judge, a woman, asked "Who is that in back of you?" I introduced the lady and the judge welcomed her. It's all on the transcript.
Going to the top of the Empire State Building, groping each other, then groping each other in the elevator all the way down.
My fucking God! You took your provider out to have dinner with your Mom? WTF is that about? And actually paying a woman to witness your Perry Mason act? What an enormous ego you must have.
Seriously, the older you get the harder it is to fall asleep with someone (especially someone you don't know). Plus, there's the snoring, the farting (Oops! Did I say that?), the teeth grinding, the cuddling (which gets annoying when you're hot, have a backache, etc.). I don't know about you gals, but if someone wants to suffocate me all night long, he better be the Boston Strangler, and then I'll give him a run for his money. It makes me want to elbow him. Just kiddding!
Save the sleep crap for yourself and your cat. I'll take more daytime fun and being awake and playful.
I was never fond of overnighters, to be honest. Eventually, I stopped doing them. To me, it was too longgggggg of a night, and then dealing with people who snored, jerked around in their sleep, and other mishaps lol
A provider and I went bike riding in a scenic location once. Picked her up at 10 am, rode the bikes, had lunch, rode some more and we were finished at 5 pm.
It was a very fun day and thoroughly enjoyable. Except for the bartender at lunch who seemed to have a lot to do at our end!
I had my first one a month ago and I had a wonderful time. I went to work with him, then we played at work, (he is self employed). We had lunch delivered to our hotel room that we got for the day. And played and played some more. Lots of fun and I look forward to doing it again.
I think that would be lots of fun! However, I would definitely say the rate structure would be different. I don't really calculate the sleep time into my rate for an overnight.. well I do, but not directly, because I need to sleep anyways- that is what I would be doing at home too! Whereas if the 12 hours were an "overday" I would be spending that extra 6 hours unable to attend to personal matters, take other appointments, etc. Not that there is anything wrong with that- I think that would be tons of fun to do with some of my regulars. However, the time I charge for during any date is mainly the time I am awake and active. My overnights are calculated at approximately 250/hour of "on/awake" time, and then the sleep time, 6-8 hours out of 12-14 total, is just an added benefit for booking the longer appointment, just part of the package (again, I'd be sleeping anyways, albeit more sleep than I get on an overnight, but I know one of the benefits and the attractions of the overnight to guys is the feeling of sleeping with and waking up to someone). I suppose one could calculate it down to the hourly rate for all 12 hours, but that is just how I look at, as I would be sleeping anyways and it seems impractical to look at the rate for sleeping as the same rate for companionship. Personally, I think overnights are pricey by some standards both because (obviously) you are spending a lot of time together and in this hobby you are paying for time/companionship, but also because I generally need 9-10 hours of sleep to feel at my best. So, when I do an overnight, and tend to get around 6 hours of sleep, that cuts into my next day, as I usually have to take a nap- that is something I take into account as well. Just how I see it.
To clarify.. Yes, you are paying for time as someone stated, and it is true that sleeping is time spent- for example, most providers would not just go spend the night for free without a paid booking prior to or during that time- that is part of our paid time. However, I kind of look at it as paying for the time the night before and the morning after, and the sleeping over part is both most convenient due to the schedule/set-up, and kind of an added benefit as well. Of course, the rate is what it is for an overnight, each gal differs, but you could look at it as one set rate per each hour, or one rate for the waking hours and one for the sleeping hours, or one rate for the waking hours and the sleeping over as a "bonus." However one chooses to look at it, it doesn't change the fact that then rate is the same.. However, because of the way I look at it, I think it definitely makes sense to charge more for a 12 hour day. I don't know that I would actually charge DOUBLE the overnight rate- that seems a bit steep to me- but it would certainly be more than the overnight. Any other gals agree or disagree?
Also, I don't think this is something I would advertise on my site, as to spend a 12 hour day with someone, you need to get to know and like them quite a bit. I think this is something I would work out individually with the client if someone wanted to do it.. The longest date I offer right now (aside from the overnight), is a special event, which is 5 hours together during the day.
While I think it would be fun to spend the day together if you really clicked with someone, I think I prefer the overnight, to be honest. There is something so romantic about falling asleep together and waking up to one another. So far I've done a few 12-hour overnights and one 24 hour overnight- that was the best! It is kind of a combination of the 12 hour "overday" you describe, and the traditional overnight.. We spent the afternoon and evening together, from I think 12 noon until maybe 12 midnight, slept for 7 or so hours, and then had more playtime and brunch together. Obviously that is not for everyone, but I think that is the ideal date- both an extended time together with both plenty of playtime and also enjoyment of each other's company, fine dining, plus the romantic aspect of falling asleep and waking up together.
that often times an overnight cuts in the the next day, perhaps since she was up late, had a deal with a snorer, or dealt with someone that wanted to go all night. The 10:00am to 10:00pm date might work quite well...plenty of time to play & for other activities as well.
I think you have a very balanced approach to the whole thing.
As has been said here repeatedly, compatiblity is the key. I'm sure that we all,(provider and hobbyist alike) have had one hour sessions that seemed like an enternity. Imagine multplying that by a factor 12 or 24. No thank you. OTOH I've had weekends that have just flown by. It all depends on who you're spending you time with.
I have to confess, I have had literally dozens of extended "dates", but very few of them were planned in advance. Most of them just happened so to speak, and a couple of them ended up a relationships, but that's a whole 'nother story
...with the right gents. very nice indeed. i've spent 6 or so daytime hrs with a friend before, but nothing more than that. a 12-hr daytime date would be a good idea i think, for all the reasons you listed....but i wouldn't be sure how to come up with a rate for it...i mean, feasibly it would probably have to be higher than an overnight rate, because there would be no sleeping (maybe only a brief catnap or two). i'm terrible with coming up with rates for unusual circumstances like this, so i'd probably go with whatever the gent suggested. *shrug*
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