to weigh in when screening gals and choosing who I will see. Needless to say, it is a negative factor. For now, I'll just pass on gals who might want to nickel and dime me with a fee; we certainly won't get along in other respects if that is her mindset.
Caveat: If she has already given me a reference or two, I might be willing to make a small courtesy gift for a reference. $100 to respond briefly to an email inquiry? Never - that is not small. I'm thinking more like $20.
Am I off base here but now providers are trying to get a reference fee off us? Just was told it would be $100 to receive a reference and “why not your spending that more than my fee”. I’m also starting to see it posted on ads $50-100 after one or two references.
Thoughts?
Think its time to think about walking away from the industry.
SP
nickel and dime themselves out of business if they want paid for EVERY reference that they provide for a client.
One could say it's a possible way of limiting a client to only spending their money on that particular provider. There's no room for jealousy in this business.
But I can see limiting a client to 2 free references per visit though. If they require more, then either pay a reference fee or book them again.
walk all over you, stomp you like a bug and then spit you like a chewing gum if you would let them..
Only one with no self esteem with succumb to that kind of tactics... Don't fall for it.. The world runs on references and recommendations. A SSSM* will never fall for this kind of nonsense.
SSSM* = Street Smart Savvy Monger.
N-E-X-T-! Ridiculous!!!!
I rarely need references, but it's extremely rare that I have seen anyone advertise that they charge to provide a reference.
Fortunately I have many ladies I can use for references so if one started doing that I would just use someone else.
With 55 Oks and growing on P-411 I doubt I would be interested in paying a reference fee.
...small gift for the effort but I'm thinking a $25 amazon code or something like that. It's really only for a few minutes of work and is a good way to thank them. $100??? nope
Along with NOPE for any gift at all for a reference. Good luck with that.
When I see an indie, I give her an extra $50 as I'm leaving and tell her it's for her time in giving me a prompt reference twice in the next 90 days. Only had a couple in all of these years that did not come through after getting an extra tip in advance. If I ruined things for everyone else, my sincerest apologies, but on a positive note, it works. Lol
Glad it worked out of for you. With the increase in rates and now a fee for reference. I will enjoy my hand rather than give more money. Don’t cave to the industry.
...and her five besties! Hopefully you can knock the shit out of yourself in a nice safe space. I don't pay a fee for references. I've given a gift for their efforts and been doing it for quite some time. We've got one thing in common though, Winterkay has taken from both of us. Me? Took my seed twice down the hatch. You; prepaid the whole fee and the only fucking you took was in your wallet! Hope you punched yourself in the balls after you wacked off that night, lol.
the only difference is card or cash. I give them $50 for an agreement to give me two refs, and you are giving $25 per reference. Like you, I would pay an extra $25 any day to avoid a self-delivered hand-job, but I also would never fall for a discount scam, even if she offered me half price. Lol
SnakePliskken,
I only charge for the services that I provide. Text me at (609) 431-1393. We can negotiate prices.
Only once have I been told by a lady that there was a firm charge for her reference, an outrageous $200. I never used her. However, if I ask a lady for a reference two or three times, I will send her something, $50 or $100. More than three and I start to feel that I'm taking advantage of her time and good will. At that point, I'll compensate her. But because I think it's the right thing to do, not because she's demanding it.
to weigh in when screening gals and choosing who I will see. Needless to say, it is a negative factor. For now, I'll just pass on gals who might want to nickel and dime me with a fee; we certainly won't get along in other respects if that is her mindset.
Caveat: If she has already given me a reference or two, I might be willing to make a small courtesy gift for a reference. $100 to respond briefly to an email inquiry? Never - that is not small. I'm thinking more like $20.
It’s really amazing how providers won’t see you without references, but want to charge a fee to give a reference, as long as guys don’t give into this tactic, then it will go away, I just don’t get it, if a provider is already charging 600 to 1000 to see her, why would she want to charge more for the guy to use her as a reference, I don’t care if the guy uses her multiple times as a reference, the ladies always says it’s for her safety as well as the guys, so why charge a reference fee? I will never pay a reference fee!
References can help keep us safe. The providers are the ones who require it so I don't think they should charge the guys. I am not trying to be a kiss ass either. I never have a problem giving one. When I see a relatively new guy I usually tell them they can use me as a reference.
never heard of it, but just another way like deposits to scam you. come on guys dont be so stupid
I have never charged for this, so not sure. I would say a good rule of thumb is that if you have seen a gal within the last 5 or 6 months one or two references should be OK to request. If you saw her years ago and you are asking for multiple references all the time I think that would be considered pushing your luck a bit.
more lenient that most providers. That should account for some extra business. Many ladies I have seen will require you to have seen them in the past 60 days in order to get references. I give them a little extra money when I see them to get that window extended to 90 days. Time is money, and that is never truer than in P4P.
You'll find that, alot of the "requirements" in terms of references, p411, deposits, etc are very much flexible.
I think we all know that, but, I'd like to say the quiet part out loud here, these ladies aren't the DMV, and they gotta pay bills like the rest of us. Realistically, if you're not sketchy or rude or offputting (a big ask for some I understand), you never really have trouble, and the girls who flat out refuse to budge are usually the ones where the juice aint worth the squeeze anyway.
Only places that are actually ruled like solviet russia are agencies, and necessarily so, but, the nice part about them is, once you're in, you're in. I got in with an R-girl agency that I use maybe once or twice a year, zero issues whatsoever because I'm vetted. I'd also expect to wind up at the bottom of a river if I ever did something sufficiently untoward, which, I'm sure that keeps folks well behaved on its own.