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the problem with public internet msg boards (a mini-tirade of sorts!)regular_smile
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i promise to rant on this subject just this once. thereafter, if need be, it can be referenced in the archives. please understand that these comments are general and not about TER or anyone here in particular (unless duly noted)

the problem with public internet msg boards is in large part due to the fact that they're PUBLIC, which means anyone can get on board and say anything they want. this invariably reduces the signal-to-noise ratio and adds a great deal of clutter and misunderstanding (remember that great line from Cool Hand Luke: [southern drawl] "what we have here is a failure to communicate"? :)  mind you this anti-public view is not about elitism or being "classist", it's just common sense: you wouldn't open the door to your house and just let anyone come in, would you? likewise, you wouldn't converse openly about intimate matters with just anyone on the streets, or would you? well guess what? that's precisely what we're all doing on these boards.  

now our society (America, "God bless her") is all about inclusiveness and diversity and so SURE, let everybody get on board and yes, EVERYONE is welcome. what the hell! we'll work it out somehow... but the problem is ... the majority of people on public boards have the reading comprehension skills of a child, the attention span of a gnat and the knee-jerk reflexes of a mule!  :)

moreover, people take things all too personally, forgetting that msg posts in general are broadcasts to a group unless specifically stated as being otherwise, and even then they're really intended for mass consumption. my humble suggestion is: use PM/emails to get your points/insults across, it's less wasteful of bandwidth and you won't illicit the ire of the whole community in the process

i came on this board cuz of an invitation from a fellow hobbyist (hi TS!) and like it or not, i'm staying on board to make sure he's not further deluded by some of you (as inadvertent as it may be) into ruining his marriage, hurting his kids and destroying a career of excellence (all for the sake of an entrepeneurial provider -- don't worry she's not on this board). now, i am amused by those who think that just because i'm new to TER i need to be "instructed" as to what proper "Netiquette" is and what's the right "protocol" on TER/etc, as if there IS such a thing as the "right" protocol (or even should be) on public msg boards. i'm sorry, but it just tickles me pink, mainly cuz i've been using the internet and msg boards longer than (most likely) 95% of you -- going all the way back to the days when MILnet split from ARPAnet, but that's a whole 'nother story)


regarding my dogma on providers and relationships (esp. for family men) it's just sage advice passed on to me by my hobbying elders (it may seem "evangelical" of me, but it is almost the  "gospel" truth) one which i apply to my own SINGLE life with full force. once again, people automatically assume that warning off my fellow brothers from these potentially devastating entanglements is because i have a moral stance AGAINST providers (which is BS since i have many good friends who are providers -- but that's ALL they are: friends). every provider i've talked to (read my lips: EVERY provider) says the same thing: "it's bad for business" and that their ideal "cinde-fucking-rella" storybook romance (which they're fully entitled to) is NOT one involving a current/former client. i mean my god! isn't this blindingly OBVIOUS to most of you women wanting a loving long-term monogamous relationship? -- do you mean to tell me that you want your dream of a loving caring life-partner to be a man who spent a LIFETIME chasing after other women/providers/strippers/whatnot?? ... if so, then ok, whatever. enough said on this topic.


now while i'm venting (don't worry this is coming to an end, perhaps not a clear well-defined end, but an end nonetheless), let me just say something about recent events i witnessed that make me shudder (as i've shuddered many times before on PUBLIC boards :) essentially, i see the same anonymously-duplicitous,  cowardly and conformity-driven behaviour you see almost everywhere else. a (potential) case in point: recently we all witnessed a self-professed "newbie" pick on Zorro by singling out one of his comments (somewhat out of context) and initiating a public "tarring & feathering" (i prefer "drawn & quartered" myself ;) then only to end up apologizing and bonding with Zorro by the end of his own thread! this individual's behaviour seems to be so erratic it's just impossible to pin him down (esp. his REAL views/beliefs). prior to the Zorro episode, i believe he boldly launched into asserting his "manly" rights (with "why SHOULD a client consider a provider's sexual needs? who is the customer here??" -- remind you of anyone?) only to turn around half-a-day later snuggling up next to nearly every provider here (and complimenting them with his adoring prose). i don't discount the possibility that i've misunderstood his real intentions and beliefs (it's entirely possible, for reasons i mentioned in the 2nd paragraph above) but he seems so unpredictably random that his behavior (and that of others like him) is best explained by Schroedinger's "wave function" ! on every observation his views can "collapse" into a seemingly random/chaotic end-state, which is almost guaranteed to be different and conflicted with what you observed last time around! but that's all quantuum mechanics talk, so let's not go there ;)

and finally, despite what you think of Zorro, i challenge anyone on this board to refute his statement (as taken out of context) that most providers are *beneath* him or not at his "level" (inexact quote, but even if so, let's just go with my take on it) and see if you can refute it in an impassionate logical argument that stands up to the social sciences and statistical scrutiny. now, i'm sure all the ladies on this board are fine upstanding citizens and shining beacons of providerhood (by their own definition) but even at that, they are the MINORITY. technically put, they are the outlying "tail of the distribution" of women in the business of providing "sex-for-gifts" [cough].  anyone that still insists it's not true is essentially saying that the majority of women who are the other "P-word" and come from deprived socio-economic backgrounds, have had tragic shattered lives, are drug-addled or "mentally challenged" (there's one for the PC crowd), most of those who are just downright criminals and ... oh heck, let's just say it: "skanky crack-whores" ... that these "providers" are actually NOT beneath them....are you getting my drift? ... now for those of you who're about to quip that i resorted to the logical fallacy of "argumentum ad absurdum" to make my point, i would say NO! tear apart my argument (call it "interpretation" if you will) and dissect it nine-ways-to-sunday and tell me if you still think it's "false" ... i really would like to know ... NOT! ;)


one last (good-natured) parting shot (or "punch") at some of you out there (you know who you are :) ...  say what you will, but at least i'm one of the brothers who CONTRIBUTES to the TER community with his (costly) reviews, and NOT of those freeloaders who just TAKE from TER and then complain about this-or-that ... go ahead, punch me back! :)

peace out!



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aphroditez3228 reads

that is all your own.  That is what you have given us here.  Some may concur and some may not.  There are points I agree with and some I don't.  I won't hash them for they are individually placed in posts to be freely debated many times over and have already written one novel today.  

Isn't it wonderful that you have a place to have your little tirade as you put it and clutter it up with content that may make others shudder.  What a wonderful Public forum.

Lauren
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Singleton: I generally agree with what you wrote. Many of the responses(not all, but many) are proof positive that many of us are way too thin skinned. I have even been accused by a rather selfish member of thinking too highly of myself. Frankly, absent being too selfish(which anyone who knows me will tell you I'm anything but)I don't see how thats possible. But all in all you are absolutly correct"NOWW, wht we have heah is a failure to cmunucate" (I'm sorry, I like that movie too, and I couldn't resist). Peace.

YWhy? ou neither have the experience or the prescience to know all the reasons why hobbyists do what they do. And statistics can be bent in a pretzel - don't go there.

As far as a so-called provider function: if we truly want to be pragmatic, ALL women (except nuns) are providers! and ALL men are hobbyists by your definition (and mine). It is a matter of barter - the medium is irrelevant!

So why do you rant?

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