A) I would fight to be one of the first people to get one.
B) I would wait until the rush to get one died down a bit, maybe a week or two and then go get one.
C) I would wait a couple of months to make sure make sure the early results were in that it was both effective and safe before getting one myself
D) Fuck you, vaccinations cause autism, I'm not getting any fucking vaccination.
I guess I should go first, Personally I have zero fears about catching COVID, much less dying from it, BUT it's not really something I would look forward to going through, if a vaccine were PROVEN both safe and effective I would almost certainly go ahead and get one, for the good of everyone else in the country, much like the measles and other shots I got as a kid as for any other reason. So I guess I fall into category number 3.
GaGa, hope you're not losing it, you old fuck! And I mean "old fuck" as a sign of respect and admiration, of course. 
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Your choices are between "A", "B", "C", and "D". There is no category number 3.
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If you want to know which letter/response I'd pick, its somewhere between "B" and "C", because I'd talk to my doctor 1st for advice and timing.
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But no matter when or if I get vaccinated, I would not let it delay or stop my mongering or sugar activity because I aspire to be an "old fuck" as well.
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Life is good.
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The Cat
but yeah, I fucked up and I'll own it. lol
and old fuck beats the fuck out of being a dead fuck, or just being old without any more fucking left in one's future. I certainly hope I get to be an "older fuck" lol
I have some helpful info about vaccines, specifically about the upcoming CV vaccine. Anyone interested in received the link is more than welcome to email me (put CV vaccine info in the subject line).
to mine this board for hobbyist email addresses. If you have something worth sharing, just post the link. If not, I think most of us are sufficiently tech-savvy to know how to find all there is that's published on this subject by ourselves.
I’d wait awhile, because I’m not in the group that’s most susceptible to problems from COVID-19. They’ll be getting the vaccine first. At least I’ll hope that’s how it will work. But I’d like to get it fairly soon as some of my extended family ARE in that group, plus I don’t know how soon I’ll have to start flying again for work.
allergic reaction to any kind of vaccine, so I would feel safe being in the "B" group, unless there' so many people that I end up in the "C" group by default.
I'm an old fuck (I'm a dinosaur, after all), have asthma and want to enjoy as many more birthdays as I can get.
Once any vaccine gets official FDA approval, it's gone through a lot of testing. Even with the accelerated timetable for development and testing that we're currently using, there's a lot of medical brain power and horsepower being applied to get a workable vaccine.
My only concern is that, like any other virus, SARS-CoV-2 has the potential to mutate. I'd hate to go through all this just to have it mutate next year...kinda like influenza!
Oy!
Well if you can give choices A, B, C, and D, and then choose number 3 for yourself, I can pick B and a half. Lol.
Anyway, like herb, I would choose somewhere between B and C. I would wait more than a week or so, but not necessarily months. Also, like herb, I would have called you out on your mistake if I wasn’t 13 hours late to this thread. 😛
But I give you credit for owning your screw up and not going back and editing your post to make herb look like the dunce. 😊
A.5: i would get it as soon as my pharmacy has it available.
take 6 pills a day for various health issues, don't think Covid-19 and i would get along.
I would choose "C".
There is such a rush to get a vaccine out and you want to make sure it is safe. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease as they say.
Its like all the childhood diseases
You get vaccinated..
measles
Mumps chickenpox
And regular flu every year
That's just me..each to your own
The flu shot, not so much. I know a lot of people who get a flu shot every single year and of course I know a lot of people, myself included who have NEVER gotten a flu shot. This is anecdotal evidence of course and hardly scientific, but of the people I know who do get flu shots, they seem to get the flu at a HIGHER rate than those of us who don't. I have never seen any evidence strong enough where the flu vaccine is concerned to convince me it's in my best interest to get one. I of course have NEVER had the flu.
I am going to have to look at the evidence when a COVID vaccine comes out, science seems to do MUCH better when it's not rushed. Any COVID vaccine is most definitely going to be rushed. The entire world is freaking out, and with thousands of really smart people working on it, I am willing to bet there will be multiple vaccines out there in a matter of months, Ok maybe SEVERAL months, but still months and not years, and if there are multiple vaccines which one do you get? and who do you trust the most where it comes to approvals? What if three vaccines come out at roughly the same time, one from China where the virus originated, One from Germany, and one from the US? Do you believe the CDC and the FDA? do you believe the Chinese? How about WHO? They would never lie, would they??? Which vaccine do you get given multiple choices?
Had only 1 flu shot in my life and that was in the early 70's. Had the flu maybe four or five times but most were 24 hr. Not downplaying the severity of this virus but while older would wait a few months. I actually tend to not take much medicine, not for religious or conspiracy reasons but the more medicine you take the less effective it becomes. Know many people who are on med's and every few years the strength and type of the med's is re-evaluated.
Personally I try to use drugs for "recreational purposes only" lol Ok, actually I quit doing that decades ago, but to be serious again, Yes, COVID is a virus not a bacterial infection, but lets look at the use of antibiotics, Americans take so many fucking antibiotics we are creating super bugs that pretty soon the only way to kill the bug will be to kill the patient. I am not one of those idiot "anti-vaxers" that believe ALL vaccines are bad and that their kids will get autism because of the getting something as crucial as a measles shot that has most likely saved tens or more likely hundreds of millions of lives. Those people are nuts and shut be treated as such, but that doesn't change the fact that as a society there is no argument that we are not over medicated. I am the only person over sixty that I know that isn't on some kind of drug.
I am on ZERO medications (Alcohol not included of course) and my immune system is plenty strong enough to keep me alive, germaphobes OTOH have such weak immune systems that virtually anything will kill them.
I have ZERO worry about catching and dying from COVID myself, I will get vaccinated after a couple of hundred million other people get one first and "if" the vaccine proves to be both safe and effective I most likely will get one too
I have gotten the flu shot every year for 30 years and have never gotten the flu. Anecdotal evidence means almost nothing.
I have never had a bad reaction to a vaccine so my answer would be B.
I haven't had a flu shot in years but I'll get this one. Just to say FUCK YOU to Chinese Communists. They aint gonna get me.
and hoping for heard immunity.
....is like "there better not be a microchip in it" lol (I SAID IT).
But begrudgingly i'm option C. For the greater good and all that plus I have all of these other vaccines floating in my body anyways and my mom & grams are immunocompromised people.
That was certainly the case with the old normal. Not sure now. I suspect there will be strong interest in fast tracking any reasonable solutions - so human testing yes but possibly not large scale testing or lengthy test periods.
I think you will agree that no one is going to be satisfied with waiting years for a vaccine for COVID. They will do their best to provide us with something as safe and effective as possible, but there are literally millions of variables, and no one can predict the long term effects of any new drug, or vaccine with any degree of accuracy in just a matter of months. In a year, we will know more than we know now, in ten years we will know a LOT more, but waiting that long is simply not an option.
I probably should have listed five options, with an option to wait a year or more just to make sure that the people getting the COVID vaccine aren't dropping dead inexplicably several months later. One other thing to keep in mind is that it's highly likely that a vaccine, or even more likely a treatment will be found and approved in some other country that our own FDA will not approve and that a lot of Americans are going to be tempted to go to Mexico or some other country to get treated/vaccinated there.
the time cycle is expected to be compressed ... at least I hope. By any measure, never has been so much resources and talents, and volunteers invested in any vax effort - so lets hope we get something safe effective and quick - they can be oxymoronic in most of the history of scientific discoveries.
As I stated earlier there are thousands and thousands of the best and brightest in many countries working on this. BUT if we get something in a few months, even if it later turns out was the magic bullet and is both safe and effective it still will not have been PROVEN to be so in that short period of a few months. PROOF takes years, but we aren't going to wait years, the fear of COVID is too high not to approve "something" long before the normally long process of proving both it's effectiveness and safety are completed. Quite frankly the world is going to do it's best to be both quick and correct. Whether they succeed or not remains to be seen.
As I have said numerous times, I have ZERO personal fear of dying from COVID, the odds of someone like myself with ZERO underlying conditions actually dying from this disease are OTB (off the board) OTOH, rushing out to take a drug without knowing it's long term effects doesn't sound like the wisest idea to me. I think I'll wait a while before taking that leap of faith.
Just as with any potential drug/treatment/vaccine the virus itself presents a lot of uncertainty related to longer term impact on health.
But this does make me think a somewhat different discussion might be interesting.
Let's say we don't really get a good treatment and no vaccine (and possible no long term immunity). Additionally we still have to deal with both the uncertainty about longer term impacts and the growing risks that seem to be coming out (stroke risk, other blood clot related damage, reduced respiratory capacity and probably some other yet to learn outcomes).
When people start thinking about what they will do it seems right now many are in the hide till the storm blows over, the sun comes back out and then I go back to my life as it was before. I think that is probably not our option for the future.
So I think the trade off here is about do I minimize the costs I might face due to catching the virus (just wrap that up in a proxy measure of some reduce life expectancy and reduce quality of life during the last X years) against accepting that is the nature of life now and, largely, living our lives as before but adjust down our expectations on the length and quality of the twilight years.
I just don't think we get to go back to the per-SARS-CoV-2 status quo. So I speculate the actual choice and the decision we all face is not living as we did before but trying to maintain the same expectations on our own longevity and quality of life at the end or attempt to live as much like we were before but with the recognition that expectations about the future need to be adjusted downward.
My gut says most will eventually tend towards immediate gratification over a shorter life.
So the question I would pose is how long does "this" (all the shutdown, isolation ...) need to continue before people start adjusting towards living life again rather than hiding from the virus. How many are going to stick with porn or web shows in 3 months? 6 months?
Putting most directly, how many years of your expected future life will you trade to live more fully now?
Note, I don't think that means everyone goes back to exactly what they were doing before. I suspect something will change in terms of screening and validation. I do suspect that personal hygiene and being health conscious is going to be considered a lot more sexy going forward (it is now but I think it increases its appeal) than just having a hot body, good makeup and the like.
I would say that is also part of the old normal. I think right now there is a strong push, on several lines, to be the first country to produce both vaccine and any type of treatment -- and even improved testing (hell, we're still working on getting a good flow of masks and other PPE, and lets face it the masks are not rocket science just straightforward manufacturing).
But top priority these days really should be a good antiviral douche to deal with all those bad sperm (if they manage to escape the condom)!
C - waiting - is the answer. Remember the movie “I Am Legend” with Will Smith - they discovered a vaccine for cancer, which worked great for months, and then killed 90 % of the world population and turned another 9 % into ZOMBIES! ZOMBIES DAMIT! A few people like Will survived. Apparently the dumb ass zombies didn’t know how to use guns, even if they were NRA members (same apparently true in Zombieland movie) so Will Fought the zombies off using his arsenal and worked on another vaccine. There you go. Zombies.
So, seriously, it’s hard to be rational when the little man is in the mix. I think it’s hopeful at best to assume you won’t get Covid 19. We do what we have to do.
...And I've been through worse shit.
As a matter of fact, I'm more than positive it's a hoax and almost all of the people who died because of it was exasperated because they already had underlying conditions.
But of course it's an election year and it's the last attempt, you'd hope, for Trump haters to get an upper hand.
I can't wait to see what they come up with next until next November...!
even Trump says it's real and NOT a hoax. The only people who say it's a hoax are the nut-job fringe.
Welcome to the club.
Now this just confirms it..man, some dudes.
WTF...you senile old fool.
For the record I'd be category 4 lol
They are working on the vaccine way to fast imho. Unless they know that sars-cov2 is a crimea virus (man made, engineered in a lab). From the research I have done the virus has the following glycoproteins in it gp120, gp41, and gp160. They were engineered into the virus with crispr technology. People can do the research to find out other man made disease those glycoproteins are in. I don't want anybody potentially putting that disease in me.
When are people going to realize that our government does not have our best interest in mind, and big pharma/the fda certainly can not be trusted? Think about how much $$$ a covid-19 vaccine would create? Now, think about this in terms of how truly ineffective a cold vaccine( if it existed) or flu vaccine is....both viruses with millions of strains, and constantly mutating....it's absolutely pointless, and really does very little to prevent you from getting sick( in fact, most get sick from the vaccine). We do not have enough data about this virus to even begin to role out a vaccine to the masses, and I highly doubt vaccination would be beneficial to control infection. If anything, a vaccination released too early or ever, could cause this virus to mutate to a strain that is more resilient, more deadly, and more contagious.
The CDC/WHO should be focusing their efforts on collecting ACCURATE DATA, the information out there is so grossly skewed, it makes my head explode. We need information on not only who has tested positive, and is ill, but who is positive and asymptomatic, who has antibodies to show a previous infection....other than obvious risk factors, elderly, underlying medical issues, smokers, what are other reasons why some get very ill, while others are asymptomatic? Race? Ethnicity? Genetics? Vaccine history? Food/environmental allergies? Other toxins/carcinogens present in the body/environment....etc etc etc....
I live in DFW, and I have yet to see any predictability in those affected, IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
Some of the first few deaths were elderly, 80's and 90's, in nursing homes. All isolated deaths, no other reports of any other positives in the respective nursing homes , from residents, employees, or family members. No explanation of how these individuals contracted the virus. If this virus is so deadly, so contagious, why did no one else get sick? Or test positive? WHY WOULD NOT EVERYONE AT EACH RESPECTIVE FACILITY & FAMILY MEMBERS AUTOMATICALLY BE TESTED??? These initial deaths would have created the PERFECT CASE study on how contagious and deadly this virus really is....these nursing homes should have an outbreak of sick, dying residents, or, at the very least, multiple positives. WHERE IS THE DATA??
Well, this is a positive step, and I think will be very valuable to understanding this virus.....
Now, it's just a matter on if accurate info will actually be released...
Aren't you the lovely lady I wanted to see when I was in Arlington a few months ago?
I apologize my screening didn't meet your requirements. Seriously.
You're a beautiful lady. You have every right and I'd be the last one to infringe on you and your needs.
May I call a truce in hopes I go that way again and of course honor your screening?
Please?
Apology accepted
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I'd like micro chip so I can be tracked by NWO with my fake immunization please!!!