Any of you older guys having the same feelings that I am having? I am 58 years old and am encountering some rather strange feelings as I participate in the hobby. First and foremost is the continued feeling that I am having sex with one of my daughter's friends (they are so young). Conversely, I wonder if they feel like they are having sex with one of their father's friends. I know it sounds a little crazy, but that is a thought that comes to mind when I meet some of these gals and it is especially driven home should I discover that their children's' ages are the same as my grandchildren. Geez, what am I going to think in several years when I start feeling like I am having sex with one of my grandchildren's friends   LOL.   There are often a lot of posts here about guys "falling in love" with their providers. For me, there have been a few gals I have really liked but my feelings become more paternalistic as I fear for their safety and well being. This is all so very strange and new to me that  I wondered if some of the older guys have gone through the same thing.

49 years old here.  Must admit when we did a best age provider thread I thought people were crazy not to go for the under 25 set but then I though about it and I haven't seen anyone under 30 in a couple of years (my ATF is 35).  So 14 yrs isn't bad, she needs about 12 hrs sleep, I can get by with 5 hours so I can keep up with her.

I was in an airport lounge with her once and some smartass asked me if I was her father or her agent.  I almost decked him but I did have to laugh about it.

If it makes you feel any better my 60 yr old neighbor has a son who is 7.  Suppose he won't be able to move into a retirement community until his son can drive LOL

One of my very first posts on TER was about perception and what it mentally takes to be a provider/hobbyist.
If it helps redirect your thoughts . Not to the age situation and omg- this could be my...
You are still vital sexy hot to trot and want to get a little kinky. You are helping these Ladies by putting some extra resources in their pockets and having a good time while you do it. I think its great.
I tend to gravitate towards older gentleman. I am real, sensual and very much on a higher intellectual  level that often does not mesh well with men my own age. How great is it that there are older men who think I am just right for them !
xoxo
mo

This is why my only "significant" relationships with Providers are those over the age of 40.  If for no other reason, we have something to talk about over diner.

A Friend of mine who dates MUCH youndger woman in Real Life has a saying about younger woman and their sometimes preference for older men, usually delivered when some smart ass kid gives him crap about the May-December thing.  He just looks the guy in the eye and says, "Guys your age are why woman your age date men my age." and walks away.

Age is JUST a number.  I really do believe age is just a number.  My knees sometimes disagree, but ...

Redirection of thinking is a good idea and your site gave me inspiration. Now let's see...........we will combine fantasy/fetish with my current dilemma and we get.......... Morghan in a catholic school girl uniform and because of her recent misbehavior, a spanking is in order from her disciplinary father. How am I doing here ?

I guess I am lucky in that my taste runs towards the more mature providers.  I find them allot more sexy and alluring.  Conversation aside, women just are softer and more embraceable after 35.  I love some laugh lines and a fuller figure.  They also usually have much more skill at pleasing me than the young hardbodies.  

To me, women are like a fine cabernet, they get much better with age.

BTW, I felt this way 30 years ago too when I was 22!  So it's not the age difference, I think I will still be chasing those 35+ ladies when I am 75 too!

Have I ever been a BADDDDDD girl
yea I am a catholic school girl all 12 -
Graduated Sal Pointe in Tucson .
However the outfits I have now naughty man come in all sorts of fun variations.. theres the patent leather .. the shorty short.. knickers thigh highs mary janes..
ahhh we could go on and on ... lol
xo mo

Thank you for that. Well, I love being right where I'm at, and if I had to change the clocks to any age at all, I'd go right to 35!

In the 13 years that I've been single, my 'relationships' have all been between 12 and 20 years younger. Of the two (out of 5) sisters who are married, both their husbands are 12 and 14 years younger prospectively.
This seems to work well for us.

I'm all for 'whatever works'..

I guess the age and our experiences make us older guys think differently.  I'm 57 and started not too long ago.  The paternalistic aspect is deffinitely there.  I try to look at the whole experience as the fulfilment of a fantasy.  I haven't actually thought about the fact that all of these girls are younger than my daughter, but I have thought about there ages relative to mine.  Ironically enough, the one I seem to have the most in common with is only 23.  My advice is to try not to analyze it too much but enjoy the moment.

I'm 54, and I've had similar feelings from time to time.  Usually it's a passing reflection which doesn't last long.  I've even joked about it with the lady in question.  My solution is to try to see older ladies.  Actually, women in their mid-30's and up are quite desirable.  They're usually much more knowledgeable in many different ways.  That interests me more than a young hard body.  
Haven't you also found that many women prefer us older guys?

tennis

I hear ya, man. At 55, I have my moments when I look in the mirror and wonder what my neices (I only have sons) would think about a guy my age cavorting with their contemporaries. That's why I stay with providers (and an ATF) who are 35 or over and they don't seem to mind the difference (or are very good at keeping the fantasy). But definately wonder about it.

Morghan, you're killing me.

More please. Please do go ON AND ON.

As I've said before, I had twelve years of Catholic School and all it did for me was give me an unhealthy fascination with plaid skirts.  Being Scottish and going to festivals and seeing all the lasses in kilts is either Heaven or Hell (since I can look but can't touch).

I'm only 37, but I find myself gravitating to older providers. I find them to come off as more intelligent and being more eager to please.  Often the young twenty-somethings have such a high opinion of themselves that they feel that allowing you to be in their mere presence is sufficent.  The older ladies know how to seduce a man properly.  Right, Mrs. Robinson?  

Gimme a MILF anyday.

Age is irrelevant for me. I am 63 and what counts for me is how you connect. I am very sensuous and appreciate the slow, unhurried approach. And when I am with a younger woman, I really don't think of her in terms of daughter because in my head, I am the same guy I was when I was her age. I am romantic, appreciative, and giving, and appreciate that in the woman I see, whatever age.

I am 52, so I am a veritable youngster compared to some of the posters on this thread; I don’t know if I’m “old enough” to comment, but I will.

First, when I do see a younger Lady I sometimes have that fleeting image, but it has never lasted.

Second, I much prefer a Lady from 35 on up.  They generally are more interesting, and I can generally relate better to them in and out of the bedroom.  They might not have the “freshness” of a 22 y/o, but then the 22 y/o is still most of the times a potentially a great Lady.  By the time they have matured some, they tend to be more comfortable with themselves as a whole person, and more able to experienced in how to combine all the aspects of fun, sensuality, an interesting mind, AND sexuality into the complete package.

This is nothing against younger women, just my preference for still young women who are “only” 5 to 20 years younger than I am  (and they “still” look a whole lot better than I do!)

I also prefer seeing mature gentlemen!

I Love the physical, but also, find that I need the mental
stimulation that most mature guys can give you.

I need someone that can "Blow My Mind" LOL

 Nothing, like having the Best of Both Worlds!

I have a little rule and although new to this side of the fence in my "other" stuff I woudlnt see someone unless they were over 35. It wasnt to say that I didnt enjoy people that are younger- I just have a preference.
All of my "firsts" were with older people, at least by 20 years or so. When I attempt to mix with younger gentlman on a personal level it does not work for me.

At 58 I have recently been thinking that I wish I'd started this sooner.

I have also commented to the ladies I'm with that though I'm seeing gals in their mid thirties they could be my daughters.  My ATF's father is actually a year younger that I am.

Every woman I've mentioned this to has responded positivly with their being totally comfortable with the age thing.  The one date I tried with a gal in her early 20's just really felt awkward.  No connection at all.

I really enjoy a couple of mature providers, but I plan on banging the occasional 18-21 year old provider as long as I am able to get the old boy hard.

I love to see the expression on their faces when they are on their 5th or 6th orgasm and I am not ready to quit yet.  Most providers in that age range seem to NEVER get the kind of attention I give them in the foreplay department.  I have even had one comment that I should give lessons or write an advice column for younger men (ya, really! Like I'm about to start that).

Face it folks, the older the man, the more mature the knowledge.  Not every 18-21 year old provider likes the older guys, but most do and I am going to enjoy my middle years as long as possible.

BTW, I am 48 years old and my buddy who is 61 has had most of the same experiences with younger providers as I have.

I'm 51 and have the "I won't see anyone under 28 rule". I figure I'm pretty safe that their father will be at least a half dozen years older than I am. Plus what the heck do talk about with a 22yr. old ? At the very least I'd probably feel like the old perverted uncle anyway. My ATF is 42 and looks 35. She is one of the sexiest women I have ever known.  

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I'm in my early fifties and enjoy women of all ages, but what strikes me about this thread is how giving the women are.  Most women are able to look past our age, paunchy bellies and bald spots to see the person we are.  How many of us would choose to see someone that is the female version of us? And who says we're shallow?

now now..
My looks betray I am older than I appear...
SO i have age.. a paunchy baby flub tummy and ohhhh LOOKIE
I do have a bald spot @@@@@
muahahhahah hah
KITTEEEEEE

Why don't you stick with the MILF's, and stay away from the younger ones?  They probably have the same issues with an old guy like you too.

or at least the only realist. He put it the best that I've seen in this thread, "...don't seem too mind the difference (or are very good at keeping the fantasy)

As long as your paying, no one is ever too old. Most commercial companions are  masters of illusion. If you are 48 and want to appear hot to a 20 year old, they will have contortions 5 or 6 times and then tell you that you should be teaching the younger studs. Later when she is having drinks with her 20 yr old roomate, they will laugh about what type of doofus you are for even believing something like that.

Generally if a 20 yr old lady/girl is not an escort they will not even look once, let alone twice, at a 48 yr old unless you have the looks of George Clooney.

A 48 yr old man looks as hot to a 20 yr old girl, as a 76 yr old woman looks to a 48 yr old man.

Oh please, if you pay them enough money, they will have as many fake orgasms as you want them to...5 or 6?  give me a break.

Excellent post and I totally agree with you.  As long as you have the cash, they will tell you whatever you want to hear, no matter how old you are.

In my travels in countries such as Italy or France, I find that my head turns at the sight of many an 'older woman'...not just those in their 30's or 40's but even older...it seems that many woman stop celebrating their beauty and it shows.  FOr the few that still feel sexy, they are! I have always thought that there is a real shortage of 'older' or seasoned providers which I personally would go for if available  (in my city there are over 1000 providers but I can find only 3-4 older ones)...wine and women...if the vintage is good, they only get better with age...men, well, let's just be thankful that women do look for something else than just eye candy--thank goodness!

I was born in Dubbbbieee - although a US citizen ( military brat )  and my heritage is indeed that of kilts and the highlands. My family is pretty much still there.
However being a catholic brat added to that drama as I was SOOOO unbelievably naughty. I just never got caught. My poor passive classmates were often the butt of my discipline. After all you cant spank an angel.
I remember for one whole year.. I was fascinated with finding out what nuns had up their habits ( cotton tighty whiteys or red hot flaming rios ) It was all I could do to not crawl under desks and peek.  I finally one day played sick snuck into private chambers and went through drawers.
This is thoroughly shocking and you realize by reading this and laughing you are going straight to hell with me...
Needless to say I discovered no flames.. although a few sisters did have some silkie foo foo frillie things going on - but nothing seductive. Yes.. most were cotton hanes her way..
I have shattered the illusion.. I know..tsk tsk
xo
mo

I'll be celebrating my ATF's 24th birthday with her next month ... and she spent my 58th with me not too long ago. While I do have the instinctual paternalistic feelings about her, I also connect with her far better than some other men seem to with young women. Unlike a few of the guys who've posted here, I never have a problem finding things to talk about with her, ranging from the music of Incubus and Norah Jones, to European existentialist philosophy, to fanatsy/science fiction. An open mind opens lots of doors, fellows.

I recently lost my favorite client,best friend,dinner companion,travel companion.Eddie was 84,and trust Me,even if You get to the point where sexually it just doesnt phsically work anymore,the desire still remains.It's what makes us human.The desire for the company of a woman,the smell,the taste,sexuality is also all in the eye of the beholder.I miss Him very much.

so he still thinks he is 18.  And since when I am around a lovely lady he does all the thinking for both of us, it seems to work out.  Of course the next day, when I feel like my back is broken from "him" thinking I can still  follow a limber young thing through 37 yoga positions, I realize the danger in listening to a small minded friend.

Nicole, although I agree to some extent, I think there are quite a few men out there that are more attracted to the more mature female form!  This of course includes me.

That is not to say that I would not enjoy the company of a younger woman with a high "Emotional Quotient", or even the physical part of one with absolutely Zero "Emotional Quotient", after all, are we not  men!

Thankfully we have choices, and we are not all wired the same or it would be difficult to get a date with the more experienced ladies!

Happy Thanksgiving!

I am 58 and my current favorite is 21 (but wise beyond her years).  For the past year or so, we have had a fantastic sexual and personal connection that has developed into a friendship outside of our professional relationship, which remains active and intense.  She thinks I am crazy when I inquire whether the age difference is a problem.  She revealed (during an orgasm)   that I am her favorite client before I returned the gesture. I was fortunate to have met her shortly after she entered the business and I quickly assumed a confidant/protector/instructor role. We connected in a remarkable way on our first date, and the relationship has been improving ever since. Until this experience, I tended to seek out SPs in their 30's, and established some good friendships. But they lack the combination of enthusiasm for trying new experiences combined with vulnerability that I find so endearing in my favorite. Yes, I find it a bit weird but I am not complaining about my good luck.  I see other providers and enjoy them, but the experiences simply do not compare with the pleasure I derive from this relationship.

"She thinks I am crazy when I inquire whether the age difference is a problem.  She revealed (during an orgasm)   that I am her favorite client before I returned the gesture."

Have you ever considered how many other guys she has told that they were her favorite client?  And as far as telling you that you are crazy when you talk about the age difference, as long as you are paying her, she will tell you whatever you want to hear.

I too am in my 50's but I never gave the subject much thought.  I did have an experience with a provider in her early 20's who said I looked just like her uncle!  I asked her if that was good or bad and she said she lusted after the uncle.  This worked to my advantage for awhile -- until she started calling me by his name.  Too strange.  I quit seeing her after that.

Hey, 58 is not old.   My daughters are 10 years old so I don't have any handups about being with escorts their age!!!  Maybe when I am 70 I will worry about being with someone 28 but for now it is not a problem.  All is relative.

At least the company will be nice, as most of the holy rollers who ARE supposedly getting in are NOT the perople I want to hang with anyway.

I remember in 6th grade when I had this wacko nun who was convinced there was a conspiracy everywhere.  She believed everything in the Bible was one hundred percent accurate.  So I got her with this....

Me: "Adam and Eve were the first on Earth, right?"
Her: "Yes"
Me: "There was no one else, right?"
Her: "Yes"
Me: "And then they had only two sons, Cain and Abel?"
Her: "---"
Me: "So where did the rest of us come from?  Was Eve sleeping with her sons?"
Her: (stammering) "Maybe there were others"
Me: "So then that whole Original Sin is thrown out the window then, right?"
Her: "PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE!!!!!"

I still can't believe that people are still so wrapped up in the life of a man that lived 1800 years before running water was invented, and that has had his story revised so many times that many of the details have GOT to be wrong.  Does anyone think that the "King James" version, wasn't modified in any way to ensure that the divine right of kings was never questioned.  I'm convinced that's where that Blessed are the Meek came into play.

OK, I'm done now.  12 years of Catholic school and all I could do was shake my head at all of the inconsistancies that these people put out there.  It's scary that I found more relevant spirituality in the first Star Wars Trilogy than all my years in school.

But I digress.  And if you ARE deeply spiritual, please do not take offense, I just think they need to look at some of the dogma to address some of the inconsistancies.  It's too easy to pick apart right now (kind of like South Park's brilliant roast of the Mormon Religion's foundation last week).  Much good can still come from religion, if it is not misused by the wrong people claiming a direct phoneline to God...

Man, how DID I get on this subject?  Nevermind..... -Cro Magnon hat back on- Me like Naughty girls, too!

As I noted in one of my reviews,....

"I believe the that women generally are much like fine wines, another one of my vices. With age they shed their one-dimensional youthfulness and enrobe themselves with complexity, sophistication, and elegance. They do not age in as much as they develop, becoming bolder, smoother, and better with each passing year. The best at maturity are considered “classic,” almost timeless. I have a particular fondness for older, mature vintages as they do not give up their charms readily, but challenge you to test your own skills. You are rewarded ten-fold if you pass the test. However, every now and then, I like to pop open a current vintage just to sample the potential and revel like the drunk I am in its’ shear power, exuberance and freshness."

To each their own,....