1) They don't give a fuck and they are risk takers at heart.
2) They are in desperate financial shape, business wise or personal wise, and feel the loss of income and possible financial ruin as a result of shutting down is a more primary and realistic issue than some possible conviction way down the road.
3) They don't feel that they are technically "promoting prostitution", as they are just an ad mall, and their hope is the First Amendment will eventually be their savior.
Does anyone have a theory why Eros is still up and running?
1) They don't give a fuck and they are risk takers at heart.
2) They are in desperate financial shape, business wise or personal wise, and feel the loss of income and possible financial ruin as a result of shutting down is a more primary and realistic issue than some possible conviction way down the road.
3) They don't feel that they are technically "promoting prostitution", as they are just an ad mall, and their hope is the First Amendment will eventually be their savior.
I love that song!!! very good choice!
i find this one somewhat applicable as well...
https://youtu.be/OyuAMTcL4pc
Come on baby
Let's go crazy
We ain't never gonna stop
Hair up
Come on baby
Let's go crazy
We ain't never gonna stop
Hair up
...The Peer Gynt Suite by Edvard Grieg. Nice arrangement with additions.
Someone reminded me of the raid on Eros offices a while back. That makes it even more interesting that they are still up and running.
The Feds took there call center servers, know wonder the ladies are having troubles with there ads or editing the ones they have. They don’t answer calls anymore and don’t reply to emails. And recently they’ve insisted everyone provide updated IDs or forget the $$ you pay to find that out. Try taking them to civil court to get it back.
The Feds will get the hang of running Eros sooner or later. Hey, they took over BP website didn’t they?
Gotta love a good conspiracy theory LoL
1) They don't give a fuck and they are risk takers at heart.
2) They are in desperate financial shape, business wise or personal wise, and feel the loss of income and possible financial ruin as a result of shutting down is a more primary and realistic issue than some possible conviction way down the road.
3) They don't feel that they are technically "promoting prostitution", as they are just an ad mall, and their hope is the First Amendment will eventually be their savior.
From Eros's TOS:
"The parties agree that this Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of Switzerland as applied to agreements between Switzerland residents entered into and to be performed within Switzerland. The application of the United Nations Convention of Contracts for the International Sale of Goods is expressly excluded. If there is a dispute between the parties arising out of or otherwise relating to this Agreement, the parties shall meet and negotiate in good faith to attempt to resolve the dispute. If the parties are unable to resolve the dispute through direct or informal negotiations, then as the parties sole method of resolving such dispute, the dispute shall be finally settled under the Rules of Arbiration of the Zurich Chamber of Commerce by one arbitrator, knowledgeable in Internet and e-Commerce disputes, appointed in accordance with said rules. The proceedings shall take place in Zurich and shall be held in the English Language, excepting only claims for which injunctive relief is properly sought which must be in a court of competent jurisdiction located in Zurich."
Fat chance of getting any refunds. Can’t see them lasting much longer. Too many complaints of being ripped off by them now.
It takes longer to get things up, but they eventually follow through. No issues here, knock on wood.
The twitter land has so many ladies complaining about paying for an ad then being required to show additional ID information and if you don’t, forget it, no refunds.
And the delay it takes to get the ad posted went beyond the schedule a provider had planned traveling. Couldn’t edit it even after it was posted.
Apparently it is working for some like you, but not everyone.
and have no issues yet, updates go thru with few hours. Keep it simple, no nude, nipples, text that may implied something different than showing who you are.... some still havent got the memo.
so far, for me is working far...
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Saw some people saying/showing that they were terminating accounts without really giving a detailed reason other than the submitted content was against their standards. Doesn't seem clear what content is against their standards but account termination has been happening.
Not only are they terminating accounts for content they are as well terminating accounts if your website is connected to your ad and it is not to their standards. As well as social media accounts connected to your profile that are not set as private. (Twitter) . … It’s in their terms and conditions when you are editing your ad.
I cleaned up my verbiage and as well removed my website and Twitter from my ad for now and simply put in my text that if you are interested in learning more about me to please email me for a link to my website and Twitter account. Now I simply have a AD with them and nothing else.
Some may say that I am being too cautious but I prefer to think of it as taking a step back and watching to see what happens while protecting my advertisement.
I realize that I will miss connections with gents that do not want to take the extra step to meet me as they could easily click another ad and see a website and Twitter from others with more info. But I’m OK with that and take full notice to the gentlemen that do.
Once my new clean website comes is live shortly I will add it to my ad and in the same day make my Twitter private so I can add it as well.
I seen many other ladies with their rates, websites as well as Twitter on their ad. They are braver than me. I personally think they are playing with fire.
as to what is a no-no. I have an ad up for North Carolina for the first time in about 3 years. Mainly because I really can't advertise on TER anymore. Honestly I see things in some ladies photos that was a strong no-no and got ladies banned 4-5 years ago.
Steph XO
Eros is based in Switzerland and the web site domain is registered in Luxembourg. They operate under EU and Switzerland law.
Prostitution is not only legal but regulated and taxed. Switzerland not only has brothels advertising in public, but has specially marked drive in areas for sex with working ladies. I have been there.
The government makes hundreds of millions from taxing prostitution. Switzerland and Germany are two countries that have brothels with the hottest women in the planet advertising in public. Makes you stop and think WTF is wrong with the USA - land of the free.
Anyway, Eros has nothing to fear, but answering bureaucratic requests as no local law is being broken.
eros.com is hosted on Incapsula
Datacenter: Incapsula
Server IP: 107.154.113.154
Location: United States of America
City: Los Angeles
While there servers and data center are not in the US, it’s the owners who will be prosecuted or sued here.
they are BOTH owned and operated by a company based in the US? The website for one of the companies I run is hosted by a small IT firm in SoCal, but they don't own a single share of stock. So hosting a website doesn't necessarily mean there is any ownership interest connected. In fact, all of the shares are held in another country . . . . . anonymously. (There, I gave TER another clue. Maybe their shyster attorneys can figure it out now. I can't believe it has taken THIS long. Lol)
Confusing hosting, ownership, and stock held corporations. If there is a US citizen who profits or manages it, those are the people at risk, not the hosting companies that are paid for there services which are outside of the US unless they have a US office or footprint.
Years ago a wealthy friend of mine wanted to start an Internet Casino to be hosted from Costa Rico. Laws would not allow a US citizen to own any part of it so he setup a deal with someone who was not a US citizen and didn’t live in the US.
But ok so you run a company have hosted your site off shore, why don’t you test the water and start a review and ad site for sex workers since you don’t think there’s a problem with it. First ask a lawyer what risks you might have, just a thought.
BP thought they were immune since they modified there personals ad pages. Funny SESTA wasn’t needed to show they weren’t simply a third party and actually had there hands in modifying the content of ads suspect of sexual services. They had won several cases, but after more than a years worth of further investigation the information gathered was sufficient to prosecute and BOOM.
Now with the new tools that are there once they’ve been distributed and posted to the regulatory law enforcement agencies, I doubt it will be much longer before someone tries there new weapon. Takes months to get it out there and sometimes years to investigate those that are subject to the new laws.
So wait and see, or go ahead start a new TER yourself, good luck.
if you had any evidence that Eros is both OWNED and OPERATED by a US company. Apparently, you don't, even though you posted that they are. Even your further explanation is wrong. Only if a US citizen is DISCOVERED to be profiting or managing it, then I agree, they are at risk. You keep leaving out important qualifiers. Its just like here, we are breaking laws being Johns, but its not an issue unless we are DISCOVERED to be Johns by policing authorities. The fact that you make an example about an "individual" means you have no experience in offshore anonymous ownership. You DON'T need to find some guy you don't know and make him your partner. That's a recipe for getting ripped off, and your"'wealthy" friend is a rube if he set it up that way. There are better ways to maintain 100% control
I already have offshore interests held anonymously since the 1980's, so I don't need to ask a lawyer. If I thought a review site would be as profitable as my other business interests, I would have already started one. I'm rooting for TER to come back. They have paid their dues by getting past the start-up stage. I don't need any more start-ups. I make more money if I just grow what I have.
You’re right I didn’t provide what I found, and won’t. TER obviously needs your vast knowledge and experience to help them understand why there is no risk. They should fire all there lawyers and pay you.
End up agreeing. Yes, they should fire the dumbshit American lawyers. They don't have to pay me, only ask me. They'll still to have to pay the offshore lawyers to set it up. All I will do is tell them how it works and where to start. It's worked for me since the late 80's.
And of course you sent admin and support you technical knowledge, experience and expertise right?
Hope so. If not, do it today for god sakes LoL
PM me and ask, I will respond. I do not give unsolicited financial advice. Learned a long time ago it's a bad move. Looks like you probably would . . . . . if you knew anything about this stuff. If they ask, I will help. If not, I will stay out of it.
I wouldn't call it "technical" knowledge. I have been in the international financial markets for over 30 years, and I learned a few things along the way that might be helpful in the current situation TER finds itself in.
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Eros ads are now not working and dispite emailing them several times no reply
I find TER here to be most helpful and long may they continue xx
Chloe x
My ad on EROS is still up and running. I did tweak my profile to be a bit cleaner, as I did on my site as well (and moved it offshore). They do take a bit longer to post, but not much. Biggest change I made with them (and anywhere else) is paying purely via bitcoin now.
I know a few providers in Canada who are now scared to travel to the USA because they fear the US government has their ID because of their ad on EROS. Sad I cannot bring them to the USA any more.
Any provider have issue crossing the border because of ads placed on EROS?