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a better response to the rants on this board from providers and clients alike.....
MarkusKetterman 150 Reviews 248 reads
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The majority of times I see a RANT posted here, it's boys against girls. The majority of the ladies stick up for the provider regardless of the merits - a knee jerk reaction I suppose. Clients do the same but in my estimation to a lesser degree, since the ladies all have their WKs to ride to the rescue.

A better response would be to learn from each other's experiences. To use these occasions to be sure that I as a client am not doing the things that honked off a lady who wrote a RANT. Likewise for the providers out there.... to take a lesson.

Since our sport depends on each other we should be willing to learn from each other.....

MarkusKetterman1753 reads

I am still having a RANT because I feel like it. It's an empowerment thing.

I don't like being canceled at the last minute.

However

The lady did in fact think that she had the room arranged for the time in question

found out last night that there was a problem

tried to check in early today and could not

I still found out about it at the last minute

I'm still grouchy

But the lady is off the hook for this one


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xxmeowbabyxx346 reads

If she is a well reviewed provider it was obviously just a mistake and not poor business practices. She may have thought the hotel had an earlier check in. She may actualy have called the hotel to ask and been given the wrong info. She also may have an asst that made the mistake.

I think it's a little presumptuous to state she is unprofessional. Mistakes happen. It would have been a nice touch if she offered to discount another visit due to the error.

The reason you found out only ten min before the appt may have been because she actualy showed up at the hotel expecting to be able to check in.

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KingoftheCounty351 reads

G12 never said the provider was unprofessional. He said she, as an experienced, well-reviewed provider "behaved unprofessionally". And I must agree. Even if one of your "excuses" or "mistakes" was the actual reason, it is still unprofessional to cancel an appointment at that late time. We have all read threads where understandable reasons for late cancellation have been listed. Not being able to get early check-in, and cancelling because of it at such a late hour, is not on the list.

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MarkusKetterman392 reads

considering that she confirmed the arrangements with me by phone and email and again as late as last night while knowing that there was a problem with having the room at the time of the appointment.

To the ladies credit - turns out that the snafu was not her fault - it was a mistake by the hotel - however, better communication would have been nice.....

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MarkusKetterman249 reads

The majority of times I see a RANT posted here, it's boys against girls. The majority of the ladies stick up for the provider regardless of the merits - a knee jerk reaction I suppose. Clients do the same but in my estimation to a lesser degree, since the ladies all have their WKs to ride to the rescue.

A better response would be to learn from each other's experiences. To use these occasions to be sure that I as a client am not doing the things that honked off a lady who wrote a RANT. Likewise for the providers out there.... to take a lesson.

Since our sport depends on each other we should be willing to learn from each other.....

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CiaraPhx252 reads

Before I go into my agreement with you, however, I didn't care for the statement: "Clients do the same but in my estimation to a lesser degree, since the ladies all have their WKs to ride to the rescue."

I have seen a lot of pissed-off posts (and with good reason) from men who got stood up in my seven years of posting here. It also gets really tiring hearing about White Knights. Perhaps these gentlemen know some of us and know our habits and professionalism, and are just being courteous and agreeing with us. I would do the same if someone attacked one of my clients/friends without good reason or if they are incorrect. :) So, please people! Let's stop talking about the friggin' White-Knight theory. I'm glad there are gentlemen on this board who know me and stand up for me if they feel I'm right. Get over it! ;)


But, I do agree that your date probably had plenty of time to call you. Why would someone wait until the last minute to go to the hotel, unless the appointment was in the morning and she really didn't find out until shortly before? That would be a horrible mistake on the hotel's side. If I were her, I would offer to give you an extra hour (even if it wasn't my fault), but that's just me.

It is discouraging and aggravating when cancellations are at the last minute. However, I think I'd like to hear about the exact reason before I disagree or agree with anyone on the matter.

I am so sorry that this happened to you. I know how aggravating it is to spend time getting ready for an appointment, book my time with someone (and lose money) and then they cancel at the last minute. Emergencies happen, but poor planning is just poor planning.

Hugs,
Ciara

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MarkusKetterman490 reads

The hotel made the mistake but they advised the lady yesterday

she knew she did not have a guaranteed early check in yesterday

last night said all was fine

tried to check in early today (which failed) before letting me know that she could not meet

Ok - hotels fault that room was not available

IMO, lady should have let me know

I wrote politely, received curt reply and nothing conciliatory at all

if she expressed disappointment that the date did not happen and offered to make it up to me another time I'd have scheduled with her again.....

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lotusling290 reads

Let me make it better by sending you a virtual kiss.

And know that you can decide not to remind grouchy for the rest of the day.

x

Related Link: http://www,lotusling.com

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MarkusKetterman179 reads

I've read all too many rants from the ladies on the board. Not saying that they were without merit....

So, I'm going to take it upon myself to RANT from the gentleman's perspective now and again...





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hungry1951320 reads

The last line of the serenity prayer...The words that I live by. You can't change it, so being pissed off all day long will not only get you nowhere, it will be counter-productive. Find another lady for this evening, or whenever you can shake free at the earliest. That will give you something to look forward to, and hopefully bring a little smile.

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MarkusKetterman1120 reads

Now I know why the ladies post so many RANTS!  It's fun and it's a good release of tension. It's converting annoyance into entertainment! I'm good now....


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h8traffic267 reads

However unexpected things do pop up... and I can roll with that.

What irks me is when I get an excuse, and that's it.

No "I'm sorry"...

No "I was really looking forward to seeing (or meeting) you"...

No "I've got something really special planned to make up for this time"...

I've got three gals in this category who gave no indication that they wanted to reschedule after they cancelled.  And that's in stark contrast to a number of lovely ladies who, when their time permits, shoot me a note inquiring about a future date.  Want to guess who gets my attention?

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MarkusKetterman304 reads

In circumstances like this, regardless of "fault", all I ask for is an expression of empathy for my frustration, some expression of disappointment (real or feigned) on the part of the lady, and an offer to make it up to me next time (not so much an offer of a cash discount - I can afford to play this game and a few bucks is irrelevant - but rather an expressed intent to MAKE IT UP TO ME next time....)

When this happens I always give the lady a second chance at my business. Now most ladies on these boards say that they don't really *need* any individual's business, mind you - but my business comes in the form of multiple hours on a regular basis if I like you.

A began my LTR with a couple of FAVs this way - a cancellation on the first date, but, accompanied by a statement such as you suggest. The second time proved to be the charm.

When no such expression is forthcoming. I have a strict one strike policy.

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shudaknownbetter406 reads

I had a "perfect" record until last month when a sudden deluge reduced visibility to the point where I could not see much beyond the business end of the hood...  & turned the highway into a parking lot.  I called the lady, appologized, told her the truth & she was able to reschedule our visit for the next day.
Today I had to call my ATF...  I appologized and rescheduled for tomorrow...  It was an "Oh, sh*t!" morning.  The truth is my SO got the day off which I discovered when her alarm didn't go off!  I had no cover for my planned absence.  

Disappointed, certainly.  But these ladies did not hold it against me.  Admittedly, they are my ATF & Fav (#1, #2) so we've seen each other several times.  Life happens.  Honest appologies should be graciously accepted.  Just don't let it be a pattern.  

It is fair to take such occurances into consideration when choosing dates, but one occurance isn't fair to either party.
skb

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little phil217 reads

I've ended up seeing several ladies after failed first attempts.  There's some sort of character flaw that causes me to give second chances.

Still, there have been plenty of times when I've wondered if having to deal with someone else's problems makes this less of a service, and more like a date.  Perhaps it's got something to do with my motivation here.  I don't find it difficult to work my name into the heart of some attractive lady.  The hobby allows me to hook up with BEAUTIFUL women with almost no effort.  Once the amount of effort goes up, I start to ponder if I shouldn't just pick up some hottie in a bar.

Now, admittedly that makes me shallow.  But then again, I'm a polite, bathed gentleman with cash in hand.

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MarkusKetterman209 reads

the lady knew yesterday that she did not have a guaranteed early check in, assured me all was OK last night, and I hear at 11:00am for a 12:00am appt that it's not going to happen.

I don't hold grudges

but I also don't try again with that kind of lack of respect for my time. Communication is so simple these days - why not do it?

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hungry1951310 reads

that she has, at least, been in contact with you. You still don't get laid, so "grouch away".

Tomorrow's another day!

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MarkusKetterman280 reads

and while tomorrow is another day,

Friday is the *next* day.....

always nice to have something to look forward to....

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