like I've been cheated and made a fool of, with sucker stamped on my forhead. I've been with two providers seperately in the last couple of months. Donation was given on time, in the right amount with an extra little gift and I was polite and on-time. I must say that activities performed had a lot/everything left to the imagination. That portion I can understand YMMV but both times the ladies were for lack of a more appropriate word unethical. The first lady said 'ohh times almost up' and when I checked only 30minutes had passed..appoinment was for an hour. The second lady was really chatty, I didn't want to be rude so we talked but after 50minutes she said times up and proceeded to to get dressed and that was that, 300 bucks for chatting. She said next time I could finish.

These experiences make me feel like no one in the business can be trusted but of course I know this is not the case. The funny thing is that both ladies were really sweet people with 5's and 6's for service.

How many have experienced these situations and any idea how to avoid these situations.

Just my personal experience I'm not knocking anybody in particular.

If you haven't allready , you need to become a VIP member either by posting honest reviews of the ladies you mentioned or paying the dues. Then do your research.This is a great resource if you learn how to use it. As a fellow member I'd rather you use the reviews to earn your membership. I'd like to be able to avoid the ones you have met so far.

-- Modified on 5/2/2004 4:50:34 PM

Below mediocre in my book, and they will take advantage of a newbie.

Never venture below a 7 for service and you should do better in the future.

you'll never book with them again so you've narrowed down your
future choices.

good luck,
fr

-- Modified on 5/2/2004 5:07:31 PM

I agree.  I've noticed when people rate things/service (I look at ratings on a mt bike review site) that either people have a good opinion or don't.  I find it funny that people will really not like something then give it a 2 out of 5.  Or will be with a provider and not say anything truely that bad but will add "won't be back" yet will still give a 5 or 6.  Maybe people have a hard time being harsh?  I've only been with 7s or higher because a 7 could be a 9 or 10 if you click together or 10 could be as low as a 7 if you don't.  No matter, at a 7, you're going to have a good time.

> you'll never book with them again so you've narrowed down your
> future choices.

That's ridiculous advice!  You'll go broke sampling the field.

PAY THE DUES TO BE A VIP member!!!! Even if only for the minimum period.  Consider it a research cost.  Then you will get enough details to make a good choice, and someone close to your tastes in service/looks.

Also, stay with established providers.

Don't take the bait on ads that are in magazines or other publications/web sites that are known to have lots of scams.  A scammer can make enough money to keep scamming just from the one-time cons they do.

A provider with an incall (NOT a hotel room) is usually a safe bet because she wouldn't scam with the risk of having an established studio or incall.

Look for local/regional boards - lots are out there and usually have an established community of providers and hobbyists.

Those are a few tips from someone who has had a couple of scams, but overall hit the mark most of the time.

you did get 5-6 in service.  So what's the surprise?

-- Modified on 5/3/2004 2:20:01 AM

if she wants to chat let her chat while she's on her knees or cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggie, even mish .... as she's a chatin you be a poundin .... good luck newbie ....

5 and 6's are really below average. That basically means they don't usually take your money and run out the door( that would be in the 1-3 range) Look for ladies that tend to get 7 and up on thier reviews. You will be MUCH happier with the level of service in general.

I say ole' chap, as others have advised so succinctly:
to participate and proficiently enjoy this hobby,it behooves you to join as a VP or else just stick to stamp collecting.

Tally-Ho!

Without some services offered, the highest review is a 7.  You chose one or two levels below that.  

/Zin

I would rather have a 5 in looks give me a 10 performance than a 10 in looks give me a 5 performance.

I have yet to find a true 10 in looks that gives a 10 in performance too.

All the above post should help if applied for further disappointment. That's the beauty of TER! To help the gardener pick the weeds so when he visits his garden there will only be flowers.

You have received some good advice already about using TER as a resource.  

And every hobbyist has been a sucker at some time or another and usually more than once.  Your goal should be to limit the number of times you are played for a sucker.  

Just remember that this is about the oldest business in the world and in general it is all about the money.  In some cases these long get to know you conversations are just an easier way for the lady to earn her money.  Unless you feel the need to have a long conversation to get comfortable then remember that her comfort level is her problem and ask yourself if you want to be paying for it.  Feel free to mention at any time that you want to get on with business even if you feel awkward doing it.  Remember it is your $$$$ and time being spent.

I concur with your preferences.  However, if a woman scores high in my book on performance (7+), her attractiveness to me would likely increase as well, compared to what my opinion of her looks were BEFORE the fun began.  A "5" might suddenly become a "7" or more.

KCSHYGUY

want to see someone with overall bad reviews? Can you say "idiot?" Sorry, but that's just common sense.

Hugs,
Ciara

Well I know I have a habbit of talking a bit but I always seem to get the job done right. If they are smiling when I leave then I did something right. The only time I think I probably didnt make him smile much was when he spent his entire hr on me and then when I noticed it was 3 am an hr later I told him I had to go. He wanted me to stay but no extra to me. I had to go and I know I had to hurt his feelings since he didnt finish but what do you do. I am not one on pressuring or being pressured so.. I usually end up staying over time but in this case it was a little over.. I did tell him to call me next time and I will see about giving a little extra time if it isnt too much over the hr and he dont spend it unwisely.. well not in my case but for him it was.. That is my opinion on this topic. I do think however you should take more time to check girls out and their scores.. Kisses
Renee (tampa)