I was recently discussing hobbying and sex in general with a close female friend. She's very open-minded and is intrigued by TER and the 'hobby'. We couldn't agree on a couple of things, so I thought I'd post them:

1) I know this isn't something most guys want to think about, but we were wondering, what's the most clients a provider on tour at a hotel sees each day she's in town? Ladies? Or is this a closely guarded secret?

2) The hobby has built-in time constraints, but in a typical 1 hour session, how long is spent actually "doing it"? What about DATY and BJ, separately?

3) And, on that topic, what about outside the hobby? How long do average people spend on the whole thing, from initial foreplay to completion? How long is "long enough?" Yes, we've all heard of "going all night" (on and off I assume!), but is that real or Hollywood?

To get things going, here's what I think:

1) 5-6 for a busy day

2) 30-35 mins, plus about 15 mins BJ/DATY

3) 1.5 to 2 hours, inclusive, from start to finish

That's been my experience, but not hers. She insists that guys only last for no more than 10 mins of "pumping" at most, and the whole thing lasts no longer than 20-30 mins. Am I missing something?

Comments!?

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I was told that quite a few sessions are 15 minutes from walking in to walking out.  Of course some guys just keep the girl working her ass off with endless BJs and plowing and never coming after the whole hour.  It is a real strain on the equipment.  One told a story of having 2 of them in a row and was totally spent by noon but had more bookings that day.  I think the average time is 30 minutes plus shower, massage and talk to fill the hour.

Off the clock it makes you wonder.  Does a bus driver want to go home and take the family for a drive?  Might me more like driving to the corner to pick up fast food.  Answers should be interesting.

Thanks for the comments. The last question wasn't about providers specifically, though! We were discussing how long average people take for the whole, er, process.

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As for how many clients we have a day- we tour- probably many - Who cares ? I know, the illusion, but cmon, we can stay home and see 1-3 clients a day ! LOL!

5-6 is a slow day ! Not busy - ( Some girls may beg to differ, we all work differently )
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One hour time constraint and how much time is done doing the deed is up to you  - not us -


If you pop immediately and cant get it up again- wellllllll..... dont know what to tell you -
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There is only one man i know - that comes into a 2 hour appt and can pump away for all 119 minutes -
He lives in Chicago - all that needs to be said - LOL
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P/s/ Your provider friend is right -



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Appreciate the info, Ciara!

Re: your PS--was that BadAss's post you were referring to? My friend isn't a provider.

What's your opinion of 119 minutes? OUTSIDE the hobby, would that be good or bad?

My friend thinks less is more.

Thanks!

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Some people can come (including men) and want and like to come ten or eleven times a day.  Five or six times on a "regular day" ie five to eight hours of sex a day.

I'd have to be carried out in a bag.

Same here. I suppose women and men are...different. I prefer to do it once--but take my time. Maybe twice, but that's about it.

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1.  ??
2.  In my limited experience, my "play time" ran about 20 minutes
3. My appts. have been 1 hour- will have my first 2 hours appt. soon.

As for pumping, with the help of  some "toys", my SO and I had a session that lasted 45 minutes with me doing much of the action for at least 30 minutes

Unless they have uhmm, taken something(?), and shoot, even if they haven't taken something, they are all 100% different from the last one.  Each one differs so largely, I can't really even speculate on this topic?  Sorry.

1) Ladies keep this a closely guarded secret; however agency ladies are apt to see more (maybe as many as 10) as compared to independents (5-6 might be high).  The better question might be:  How much time to you put between appointments? [directed to the ladies].

2) In a typical 1 hour session, I generally spend 40 minutes engaged in active love making.  This includes kissing and other foreplay, DATY, BJ and "the act itself".  There is some get aquainted time in the beginning and some pillow talk between rounds.

3) Outside the hobby doesn't exist for me anymore.  Hence, the reason I am here.

Back when we were both younger, it was about 25-30 minutes a night with a 1 pop limit.

I seriously can't even begin to imagine taking 6 appointments in a single day. I think after the third appointment I would be crying uncle. I know some women do, and I was once told by a lady that when she worked for an agency she would see about 8 clients every day. My hat is off to her and those ladies who can handle that volume of business. They got more Energizer Bunny in them than me.

1.) i don't "tour", i'm a GFE incall girl, so i can't really answer that one. but 5-6 clients in a day sounds extreme to me, very busy, but then i'm very low volume and typically see 2, maximum 3 clients a WEEK. two in one day, spaced veeeery far apart is my limit.

2.) i don't really have a "typical" session. but for one hour, i like to keep things as active as possible. also i'm a submissive, so my clients tend to demand a lot of me. spending 45-55 minutes of a 1 hour session sucking and f*cking are the norm for me. all the chatting, catching up, etc. can be done in the midst of the sex. i have no issue with giving a 55 min. BBBJ either, if that's what a gent wants. it's his time, we can spend it the way he likes. one thing i don't tolerate well though is DATY..if a gent goes longer than 2 or 3 minutes with that i will try to distract him and move on to something else.

3.) again, i don't believe there is an avergae or norm. some people are sprinters, others are marathoners. which means that with some men the sex itself is about 5 minutes duration, with others they are working me out non-stop for several hours.

If you are thinking about how many came before you then you are looking at it all wrong. If the gal is good at her job you will never know.  If her performance has you wondering then you are seeing the wrong lady.

As far as #2, honestly, who really cares as long as everybody walks away happy.

My concern is he's using an alias, there was someone on here earlier asking for providers to help him do research for a study being conducted. Why the need to use an alias? We should all be very cautious about the type and amount of information divulged here.

Very true. It really does not matter as long as I leave content and happy.

which may be wrong if a lady is on tour, then 4-5 clients would seem to be a pretty busy day. It takes some time to freshen up, get some lunch, change the sheets, etc. The agency ladies I've talked with about this and who I trust said 2-4 clients is a productive day. Independents run the gamut from truck stop hookers to $50,000/week gals so somewhere between 20/day to 1/day.

2- I dig connection so foreplay/BJ/DATY/Cuddling takes up a lot of the appointment for me. Average time spent 'doing it' is probably about 10 minutes for a first pop, maybe 20 for the second if it's in me.

3- Probably a good guess unless the people have been married for years. The it's probably about 30 minutes.

it akin to a personal tragedy if I don't.  You rock.

Now that you mention it, there has been a flurry of "poll" questions about several different aspects of the "hobby/provider" community recently. Some of the questions are really pointed and are of the kind that someone would include in a survey.
jhb

To this question. When I am at home in my home market I normally have one to three appointments in a day. Most are one hour and a few will be multiple hours.

I prefer multihour appointments obviously.

However, when I am on tour I am religious about my diet and supplements because I will be "working" anywhere from 6-12 hours in the day. On a high traffic day I will see 8-10 gentlemen in a day. That is exhausting work. When the last client rolls himself out of the room I roll myself into the bath, soak for a while and then pass out in bed.

Touring has its highs and lows but overall it WILL test your endurance and ability to "perform". At the end of the day I would want each and every gentleman to feel as if he was the ONLY person I saw all day and you know, to date, no one has ever said I "seemed tired" or lacked energy. We do what we can.

First off, I'd lose my mind if I were to see 5 or 6 Gentlemen a day. Me personally if thats a reg day I am way way...low volume. It takes time to be prepared for our Gentlemen. Many are multiple hr dates and its not all sex. Remember its a mind fuck first. Its taxing on us more than just physically. It just shows even though you "hobby" you don't seem to get what all is involved.  We need time between dates as well to pull things back together, shower, clean up have "me " time.  Most of my Gents are regs I know them and what they like.  I don't like to rush and feel not all there. You I believe are way out there with your speculations. Really I only know me though and how I work. I see few Gentlemen, Enjoy my time with them and Quality as apposed to quantity is where I feel it works best for me.   I am sure others may feel different.

I have not atually timed myself, but its on an average of 1 to 2 hrs of foreplay touching daty bbbj  and of course love making...the works with my SO  Has always been this way. We are really into each other in every way.  Not too often do we have a "quickie" and that was an hr or pretty close to it.  We are very compatible so it is great.

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brings every single aspect of the session into one whole mind and body experience. I still get a tingle in my dangle and a buzz in my brain just thinking about my time with her.

You can't take that kind of experience and fit it into a survey, nor should you. It's all about the connection, and the sex is just part of it.

Good luck

I think its a question of physical conditioning
and mental concentration that determines how long a guy can have continuous sexual intercourse with a provider. 5-8 hours? Most people cant walk continuously for 5-8 hours.

if you ever happen to be in the DC/MD area, try looking me up. i'm not one to post links and such, but i'm not too hard to find.

I asked this question on two boards, this general one, and my 'local' board, Washington DC. I wasn't sure how active this general one was--I usually only post on the DC board.

I've been out of the hobby for a while, so I haven't been very active on TER recently, but I have about a dozen reviews from my heyday.

I agree, this isn't the usual sort of thing I'd post. No, it's not a 'survey', and I don't know of any other similar posts.

As I said in the original post, we got into a discussion but couldn't agree, so I thought I'd ask the community. I'd never even considered this stuff until she brought it up. Obviously, she thinks from a woman's point of view.

I used what I thought was a funny 'alias'. Sorry if I offended anyone.

But, to be fair, this is a discussion board, after all. If we can't be frank and open here, where can we?

Anyway, all the varied answers have been interesting. Sometimes you can get stuck in the idea that everyone is like yourself. People really are different!

Another thing to concider, when you read reviews and you see that "machanical" statement it may somewhat be attributed to seeing too many Gentlemen in one day.
It's got to be hard to stay focused and bring yourself into each session to be charmingt and feel fresh, emotionally that is when you press yourself so thin. I believe a great deal gets lost in the shuffle. I once saw 4 clients in one day, spread out and all but one were long time regulars of mine but still I was not totally myself. It became like "work". Never do that again. It has to, for me anyway be about more than just the $$. It has to be social, and interesting andf hopefully very Passionate as well... If I see a Gentleman, there is no chemistry or it felt machanical on his part, I won't see him again.  It does nothing for me at that rate. There are so many men whom I can see and also Enjoy their company and get my world rocked mentally as well as physically,I won't see someone just cuz they have the $$. They need also to be interesting and involved in our time together, otherwise I'd rather pass.

Oh and about the whole "average" time with our clients...everyone is different, and everyone is interesting and passionate in their own way. There is no average.

Thanks for your insights.

I know when I was a bartender the last place I wanted to be when I wasn't working, was in a bar. And definately not that bar. When I was a waitress the last thing I wanted to do on my day off was to go out to eat.
I can see how you could think it might be the same...for me though it's not.
I have a totally seperate connection with my SO than with the Gentlemen I spend time with. I crave his touch, its healing for me and much needed. The Passion between us is breathtaking and not at all like any other. So although on the surface it may seem to be the same as what I have been doing with my time throughout the day...its not at all even close.  The intimacy is extremely deep and extremely wanted. His touch alone breathes new life into me in so many ways.  I am very fortunate I guess to have someone I am so connected to.

There's such a wide range of responses!  I'm especially glad to see the variety of answers on the number of clients a lady sees in a day.  As far as changing the sheets, If I see a second fellow that day (that doesn't happen often), I just slip the housekeeper a tip and ask her to bring me some clean sheets.  If she has an inkling as to why I need them, so what?  I could just have easily spilled a soda on them.

ladies had your attitude, we hobbyists wouldn't have to spend so much time checking reviews to see who is the "right lady" and who just goes through the motions.  

Thank you for your refreshing attitude.

1) think lot of people missed the touring part and I dont think a lady, indie or agency, is going to be happy with 2 jobs per day on a tour.
it would not be worth touring as expensive as it is.
touring some days u will get 5-6 calls but on tour your ready and willing to take on more because the next day you may only have 1 call.
there is no guarntee on how many calls you will have. but remember girls know they have to make the guy happy and want him to come back for more next time in town, so if the agent or indie books with no extra time be it  for an hour, less or more then that is not business wise.
2) actually doing it would depend on the guy dont you think? some may want to spend 30 min on just talking while others like kissing, touching, showering but it is up to the girl to read the client and treat him accordingly,this may or may not be learned on first session.
3) once again this is up the guy, what about the guys who are happy with just 30 min? that is with shower and small talk?
some men enjoy an hour some enjoy 30 min some want longer.
how can any one person answer these questions?
if you go to a restaurant because you like there steaks doesnt mean that the next person will like the steak also. know what i mean?
everyone has their own likes and dislikes and if they have a particular like then they need to communicate it to the lady and not depend on her mind reading skills.


I like the 1-1/2 hr. calls with 1/2 hr in between calls to freshen up. that is what my personal preference is that way a lot of ground can be covered in the 90 min and everyone is happy.just my opinion, every lady is different and treats clints different.
when your touring it is a different set of rules then working home base and a lot harder and if not done right can hurt ur credability in the business. but every girl has her own rules and opinions on how to work it.

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Do you know the saying they should make tires out of the stuff a p***y is made of they would never wear out? LOL!
yes i'm sure some do get sore especially if dealing with young guys that "go" full hour, but when your touring it goes with the territory.

"...but when your touring it goes with the territory."

There are quite a few ladies such as myself who tour for our personal vacations.  It's not uncommon for me to be in NYC for 3-5 days and have three appointments.  In fact, that is not an uncommon schedule for me when in my home town...

I'm another lady who enjoys the multi-hour dates with a focus on creating an experience and true date-like feel, vs. simply seeing how much fun can be crammed into an hour.

Please don't assume that everyone touring is seeing 5-6 clients a day.  I don't think my body would tolerate that, at all!  I certainly know my mind couldn't keep up with such a pace.

Great point and didnt think of it nor was I coming from that angle, though I undersatnd what your saying.
Really generalizing about the touring ladies who hit a number of cities and/or countries, usually staying 2-3 days at a time.
That is not a vacation and it is hard way to go, but some find it necessary to do that in order to reach their goals. Some may do it for 3 months others shorter or longer.
Every lady has her own way and style but we do travel down a few roads before we decide which one fits us best.

The rare times that I saw more than one person a day for several days, I had to take a sabatical.  Way too much like work.  

You viewpoints on what you expect out of a session are the same in my book.

Thanks for sharing so well.

Kari

I think that was my busiest 10 day stretch.

But 5-6?  
In ONE day??

Really??

Holy Jesus... I must be getting old.