OK, first all your others are correct, but I am not understanding #5. Obviously you have contacted "her". You said "she" does not ask for a deposit. What information is "she" asking for from you? How are appointments set up? Is she willing to come to your house? Only a hotel? You are saying they ask for no screening information at all? That does not make sense. If you can give more info on how this person operates we may be able to be more helpful. I don't do video calls either, but you can easily find me all over the internet to prove I am real. And like someone has posted, more than one "client" has used the supposed verification simply to jerk off and then I never hear from him again nor do I ever get any money. Same with sending explicit messages. It is NOT safe to do so because of LE, but also more than once it was just used for sexting, he gets off, never hear from him again and I have no compensation. This is our job. We are here to make money not to give you free spank bank material. So back to #5, you said they do NOT screen, what information are they getting to blackmail you? Stay safe out there!!
I know the typical research steps (reverse Google Image search to ensure they're not fake, look at reviews, ensure they're active on social media and/or have a website). However, when a provider is not on TER, I always wonder "What do I need to be on guard against?" So - what is it? In my mind:
1. She'll take your $ and ghost (warning signs: asking for a deposit, with no happy customers to vouch for her)
2. She doesn't look like picture (warning signs: old images)
3. She'll be a bad experience (not able to know if no reviews)
4. She's LE (warning signs: short online presence, explicit talk)
Any others I'm missing?
Specifically, two that I've encountered that I don't understand is:
5. Gorgeous provider who's Eros verified but no online presence or reviews. She won't do 5 min video screen (even if compensated), but doesn't require a deposit and only does outcall - what's the catch and why not screen? Would it be to get verification and blackmail?
6. Girls with rates well below market rate whose Tryst profile routes you to their OnlyFans. Is that just a way to get subscribers?
Thanks!
There were many stories on here how a provider with good reviews etc got upset over something in her review or something else and doxxed a client.
But as I understood, you are specifically asking some specific case of unverified providers?
The pics thing is least of your worries I'd say. Scams at the biggest of your worries. Leo is a possibility, but keep in mind usually LEOs don't usually do outcall stings. It's just not cost effective for them. Remember that Leo's will take path of least resistance.
As part of scams, blackmail is somewhat common but also dangerous for perpetrators, as Leo's can actually take blackmail threats seriously unlike scams where you're just out of money.
There are some fantastic women on Eros and Tryst. And the temptation of the perceived value is very real. I have been tempted (but never succumbed).
TER is your best friend. As tempting as it is, if the girls are worthy, eventually they will get reviews. And the ones with 'No review' policies are ready targets for the TOFTT crowd (not me). Maybe I'm fortunate enough to be in a market with a lot of options. But, for me, its not nearly worth the risk.
Re: Your final questions (as you may have surmised, I am on the cautious side):
5. On it's own, I don't trust Eros. It's a suitable cross reference if the lady has reviews, is on P411 or has a website.
6. Yes. They are trying to drive subscription traffic.
There are a number of reasons we might not want to do a video call:
- It might take us an hour to do our hair and make up in the way that we would look if we showed up for a date
- We might be face in and worried about being screenshot captured and identified using facial recognition technology.
- We might be worried about our image being recorded and used as a fake verification to scam others.
- Some of us have heard or experienced connecting to a video call only to be faced with a guy with his dick out.
- it honestly does feel sort of insulting to be asked to prove that we are real.
I do offer a brief paid video call if someone wants it for reassurance, but I’m told that I’m unusual in that respect.
Be aware that all Eros verified means is that she wrote down the name of the website on a piece of paper and took a selfie with it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I really appreciate your perspective, and would not have thought about a lot of those (especially fake verification or facial recognition, and I'm so sorry about people jumping on with their dicks out. that's certainly one approach!)
Thanks again.
Personally, if someone is below market, I just move on.
“If it seems to good to be true…”
-Hoot.
OK, first all your others are correct, but I am not understanding #5. Obviously you have contacted "her". You said "she" does not ask for a deposit. What information is "she" asking for from you? How are appointments set up? Is she willing to come to your house? Only a hotel? You are saying they ask for no screening information at all? That does not make sense. If you can give more info on how this person operates we may be able to be more helpful. I don't do video calls either, but you can easily find me all over the internet to prove I am real. And like someone has posted, more than one "client" has used the supposed verification simply to jerk off and then I never hear from him again nor do I ever get any money. Same with sending explicit messages. It is NOT safe to do so because of LE, but also more than once it was just used for sexting, he gets off, never hear from him again and I have no compensation. This is our job. We are here to make money not to give you free spank bank material. So back to #5, you said they do NOT screen, what information are they getting to blackmail you? Stay safe out there!!
When he says she won’t screen, he means why won’t she “do 5 min video screen,” not what you and I mean by screening.
Plenty of scam attempts from eros and tryst unfortunately. Which is why I refuse to send deposits to girls without a long review history or a booker I have used prior. Had several times a girl with no reviews demands $300 up front and will not do any verification. After I refuse I get berated for being "cheap".
…a scam, especially if she is asking for a large deposit. These ads are easy to spot on tryst…usually some dude abroad that found some sexy pics or used AI and wants to collect some deposits from gullible fools
but there are many legit ladies from what i have seen who just don’t want to host at their residence…some
may do an incall and request a fee to book a room…
and i have only seen one instance where police use outcalls for busting, and that is when the PROVIDER isnthe target. it happened in albany ny. cops busted a bunch of providers with outcalls to motels and whatnot
most places do not usually go after providers unless they are street walkers…even the asian massage parlor busts usually just end with being charged with operating an illegal establishment (massage) without the necessary licenses and permits…the place closes and opens up elsewhere
There are thousands of great providers on this site that you can trust. Why not use your time to find one?
Great advice.
Also, read the providers website prior to reaching out because no one wants their time wasted.
I have had several long time TER members contact me repeatedly who are not willing to provide vetting &/or a deposit to book.
I would never disrespect anyone’s privacy, share information without permission, or dox thats ridiculous. I did not build this good reputation after twenty+ years on TER to do unscrupulous things. I have integrity. Pick an active professional.