I am seeing ads and on some message boards that escorts are requiring STD test results. Seems to be in direct relation to more providers offering bbfs/natural.
1. Question for hobbyists will you give a provider your test results to see her ? 2. Question for providers, have you considered require STD results before seeing a potential client ?Yes we know the obvious that STD results are only good for a short period of time, etc.
I have learned that many people, especially ladies when they go to planned parenthood or their MD or porn actors , their testing is usually limited to bacterial issues & HIV .. so no testing for Herpes for example. and surprisingly no testing for trichomoniasis. Trich has become more and more common, imagine partly because people don't test for it.
over the years i have paid for testing for a number of ladies, almost all Sugar babies .. ie. meeting up as a supplement to their 9 to 5 life and one third was positive for trich but nothing else .. ok i don't count HSV-1 aka oral herpes as over 80% of active people 22-50 have it. (never tested someone who didn't have test pos for that)
so just because, boys and girls, when someone assures you they have been "tested" find out exactly what that means. as for me, i test for everything! about 2 to 3 times a year.
True herpes you do have to pay extra for it. Also another to get tested for is hepatitis, that you have to pay extra for also. The place that I go to get tested was grateful for all the referrals I gave him to get tested. He said what did you do "You have these men scared to death."
I would actually prefer a mutually-swapped results model.
Getting tested now, even anonymously, is as easy as dropping off your dry cleaning on one day and picking it up the next. With home-test services, it's even easier than that.
I will always offer my recent (within the last month) test results to a provider. And ideally, the provider should be willing to share her recent tests results with me BEFORE payment.
Mutual swapping of results should (must?) become normalized as soon as possible. And doing so should not be connected to an expectation that a provider (or client) will go bare. The decision to offer BBFS should be separate from test results sharing.
And I'd like to see a filter on the TER search page for providers who ask for and provide their results.
PS: Beyond the obvious significant decrease to health risks from sexual activity, adopting a mutual-swap policy would greatly improve the rational for decriminalizing sex work. But that's a topic for other posts.
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This is great in theory but anything that is "anonymous" is pointless. The same with the home test. I think everyone should get tested for their own safety and health, but unless you have something to tie the results back to that exact person it again is pointless. If we lived in a perfect world where everyone could be trusted with the truth your model would be great, but we don't. I know of a provider in MN (I won't name names) who offered BBFS with a clean test. Guys were lined up producing fake clean tests to see her. She of course got an STD. I have not seen her advertise in awhile so not sure if she is even around anymore. Getting tested on a regular basis should be normalized, but it should for your own health and safety, not anyone else's. Condom usage for any and all sex acts will gain more traction with decriminalization discussions, not swapping STD test results that anyone can fake.
Yes, there are many technical issues and problems associated with current testing methods and techniques. Those should not detract from considering the suggested policy.
What if a test could be authenticated without divulging personally identifying info? The technology exists today but is not yet implemented in the health care industry.
What if you always could rely on a test result to be true and accurate?
What if, as I clearly stated in my post, providing test result status WAS NOT connected to a provider's decision to offer or not offer bare service or a client's decision to accept or reject an offer of bare service?
What if the costs to obtain, share and review another's results was widely available at negligible cost?
What if all the objections based on bad-actors or other barriers could be cleared away? Would achieving 100% trustable tested status be inherently good or bad? That is the real question. The rest is about how to eliminate or significantly mitigate risk of "cheating" or flaws from the process and system.
If we can agree on a policy of 100% testing as a worthy objective, we can then work across the industry on how to achieve it.
Am I an idealist? Probably. But most positive changes in the word came about from an ideal on how to make the word better. Do you want to lead, or just think of why good ideas won't work? I choose to think about how to make good ideas work, thank you.
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I think people should get tested on a regular basis to keep themselves healthy, but I am not understanding why you think sharing the test results would benefit anyone. Most STDs are not going to show up instantly on a test result. Some infections can take days to a week or more to incubate in your body to show up positive on a test. I sometimes see more than one client a day. After I have sex with a new partner the test results are not going to be current. I am always about positive change, but I am still not understanding how you think this will help. If someone uses condoms every time correctly the chances of getting an STI are extremely low, very close to zero. How would this work in my situation and who would it benefit? Am I supposed to take 2 or 3 tests a day? And the guy I see tomorrow at 9 am which test result am I supposed to show him? The one I took yesterday or one I took last week? Or all 10 of them I took in the last week? I am usually seeing 20-30 clients a month. Some of the very high volume providers might see 30+ guys a week. I am all about leading the pack with ideas to benefit our community, but you have me lost on this one.
I'm not interested in running in circles. You have stated your opinion and I respect that.
But if you will not consider and respond to my suggestion to focus on the objective of the OP first, and insist on circling back to why it can't work, there's no need for my continued participation in this discussion.
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your ability to not engage with the trolls. Lol
Like, what would be the practical implication of such a system you proposed?
It clearly doesn't indicate that either are actually clean when seeing each other.
So would it be just peace of mind that at some (recent) point in time you were both clean (I'm making an assumption at your request that both parties are truthful and transparent)?
Because I feel that's about the most such a system could offer. Anything beyond that seems like wishful thinking.
I am actually very interested in what you said and offered, and I am giving you very solid questions as to how this would be practical, feasible, and realistic in the real world as a provider. I am not running any circles, I am giving real world details as a provider and asking you real questions as to how this would work. Discussions involve asking questions, dissecting concerns, and looking at a situation from multiple angles. I am not a person that just blindly follows an idea because it sounds good. I am not insisting this would work or would not work. I am asking sold questions as to the *how*, none of the information I gave you is an opinion. So let's focus on how this *would* work with all of the details I gave you?
...is it to tell a fake test vs a real test? I spent about 30 minutes searching online and with AI and what I found is pretty fucking disturbing. Searching for how to spot a phony test isn't very reassuring either but may have picked up most fake ID's kids made in high school in the 80's. Smudged ink, grammatical errors, cheap feeling paper, bad spacing etc.
Personally, I believe testing and the use of Prep or similar medications are going to bite a lot of people hard in the ass someday in the near future by creating a massively false sense of security. It wasn't even allowed to discuss bbfs or include in a review just a few years back and now, it's seems it's as prevalent or more common than it was pre-aids.
I sure as hell wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of some of these walking petri dishes.
You want a reply to a hypothetical situation. Her response, pointing out why your ideal world scenario could not work, IS a response to the hypothetical. You want her to accept as “true” that which she knows cannot be true (based upon science) is where you apparently fail to see the flaw in your question
I’m not a porn star, so no I am not offering BBFS. I do see BBFS being offered, and many do it with their regulars. I personally, do not believe in sharing tests unless we are seeking an arrangement. I do have gents who can afford an exclusive relationship inquire about the possibilities. If you’re going to take me off the market that’s a different situation.
🗣️PH-balance is a factor as well as STD’s if you allowing BBFS.
NO! We get tested regularly. We have never asked our clients for their test results.
Yes I have shared my recently verified but anonymous test results with providers but only thru TTS.
See link ...
It is standard for some porn stars even if certain services are not available. I doubt that will catch on with independent or agencies though, too invasive.
1 many stds take up to 30 days to show up
2 stdcheck.com. can test nearly everything $159 plus $95 to add trich.
I don't see people for bbfs, but if she asks to see my STD results for any reason, I don't see why I wouldn't. There's nothing to hide. I test once a month.
Test results are accurate as of the time performed! (sort of!) Be reminded there is a "window period" during which recently contracted STDs do not appear in test results. They are not fool-proof. Get tested routinely!
It goes without saying that your favorite provider may have had numerous contacts between the time she was tested and your dream date!
Finally, talk with your doctor about PrEP, a medication routine that virtually guarantees protection from HIV. Your provider should be practicing this too! PrEP is expensive, but there are programs that help with the cost.