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"Really bi": How to game TER's scoring system
ThePeopleRule 1516 reads
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I have had the impression during the past few of the 12 years I have been a VIP that more and more profiles list "really bi" and those ladies often have many "10" performance scores.

With thanks to Mr. Perfect Storm for posting his search results below (which inspired me to do this), I searched on "all cities" and "really bi" to see how recent profiles compare to TER's early days.  

Here is what I found after spending only a few minutes:

1)  Early days profiles:
The oldest 40 pages of search results (15 profiles per page, totaling about 600 women):
February 16, 1999 - December 9, 2002 = 46 months, almost 4 years

2)  Most recent profiles:
40 pages of search results (600 women):  April 4, 2016 - March 24, 2016 = 12 days

I won't do the math to figure out the % increase, but it is a WTF difference.

Anybody here think that in the past few years many more providers have become "really bi"?  

My conclusion:  as the number of reviewed providers has been steadily increasing, more and more have been listed as ("offering"??) that they are "really bi" so that, usually along with DFK and BBBJ, they will qualify for a "10" performance score.  Why?  Obviously, to me, it is with the hope that their "10" scores will increase the number of guys who contact them.

I read many reviews and often see nothing stated therein that justifies every selection the reviewer made in TER's template that relates to the "above 7" items.

ThePeopleRule495 reads

Posted By: BigPeterJohnson
dude...you need to get laid...
BPJ:  Thanks for your "meaninful" contribution to this thread.  (How ironic that the one below yours is from TER admin.)

Probably not a better guy on here than you to be the first to reply.  It is "Verrrry Interesting" (cue...Arte Johnson....[a relative of yours?]) that your last nine reviews all gave "10" performance scores and that 15 out of your last 16 reviews were "10" scores.  I read a few of them (I do have other things to do with my time).....no statements by you that the providers said anything remotely like the following:

1) let's do anal,
2) please bring another guy with you the next time, or,
3) I'm really bi, next time lets do FMF.

Presumably, when those 15 reviews were read by TER staff your "10" scores were allowed to remain because each of those ladies had the items in their profiles, NOT because you specified that any of the three above-mentioned services had been "offered".  

If you have a burning need to role play (as indicated by your most recent review), maybe you should buy an all-event pass to Comic Con or, even better, perhaps the below video will turn you on....and it does not cost 700 an hour as she does

GaGambler409 reads

These top 10, top 100, lists have acerbated a long standing problem here of review manipulation and have made the problem 10 or maybe 100 times worse. Get rid of the motivation to cheat and maybe we well get rid of at least some of the cheating.

Posted By: DiscussionBoardAdmin
Changes are coming...
I hope so! Over in another group people were trashing TER because girls who don't give BBBJ can qualify for grades higher than a 7 by putting down ANAL-YMMV. They simply never give anal but they can score higher than a 7 even if all they give is CBJ.

Others will say really bi" and  "more than one guy" even if they don't do that so they can get a 10 while still only giving CBJ.

I would do it like this:

BBJTC - can get up to an 8

BBBJTC-CIM but spit-can get up to a 9

BBBJTC-CWS- The only way to get a 10.

A lot of guys don't care about anal or "BI" or "more than one guy" but every guy loves BBBJTC-complete with swallow. Those are the girls who deserve a 10

I don't think the profile can say DFK, or BBBJ, or anal unless there is at least one review that mentions those things, yet there are many profiles that say "really bi" and even "more than one guy" with no proof of it. I think for those things to be in the profile, they should have to have at least one doubles review where they are shown to be bi (not just two girls on one guy) OR a review by a couple, OR a review by a female hobbyist. Same for "more than one guy." For that to be on the profile, there should be a review where that actually happened.  

DBA says changes are coming. I guess we'll see.

It may not be mentioned in her first review because the reviewer opted not to partake (Especially if there is an up charge, like there often is for anal.)

Couldn't the reviewer, knowing that these items are on the menu, be allowed to list them as being available, and therefore be able to opt for a higher score as TER guidelines allow

i agree, a girl should not be eligible for those extra points unless the reveiwer actually knows first hand that the girl is "really bi' or "provides anal."  taking a girl's word for it, in this endeavor, is akin to buying a well-known bridge.

also i would hope that on the other side of the coin, ter admin would make sure a guy actually did see a lady when he submits a review.  more than one woman has told me that fake reviews, both good and bad, have hurt their business.

Afro-desiac361 reads

That was a rhetorical question.  We are on the honor system here and, too often, it is honored in the breach. TER can't police the system.  It's self-policing but there are lots of stories that when gals complain about fake reviews TER turns a deaf ear.  Because it's in TER's best interest to grow their review base.

...and I welcome it NOT being that way in the future. I'd expect if that service was removed for special consideration that ALL other services (BB, CIM) lose that distinction as well. It should be a flat, even playing field.

In the case of "really bi", if the incentive was gone it would benefit lady mongers like me greatly, as I'd expect more honesty on the part of the providers in posting about that since the score incentive would no longer be there. As it is right now there are plenty of NOT bi providers manipularing that feature. That needs to stop.

Goodbye and good riddance to all score bumping due to specific services!

..completely and utterly arbitrary. Stupid to boot. Get rid of them all and let us grade the way we want. While you are at it get rid of the asinine labels that accompany the numbers. 10 is 10. 9 is one less than 10. Get the picture.

JackDunphy336 reads

Being locked into not being able to score a girl a 10 bc she doesn't do things I don't even want makes no sense.

I'd keep the scoring 1-10 system though so I disagree with Fish on that but agree with you about the "once in a lifetime" nonsense and the other verbiage that goes with each number.

since you run a college for mongers, wouldn't the scholarly grading system make sense to you?

A for perfect

B for solid, will repeat

C for average, could use improvement

D for severely lacking, girl needs lots of advice

F for Forget it!

simple and easy to understand!

JackDunphy273 reads

Your third grade mentality wont cut it at JDU.

There is a world of difference between an 8.1 and an 8.9 but you would consider both a "B"

Negatory, Big Johnsons Peter. ;)

totally agree. can't tell you how many times other mongers have said how can i have seen so many "once in a lifetimes" if it says "once" ?  lo

Another change should be that a provider that does NOT offer traditional sex should NOT allowed a ten no matter how many guys she is willing to see

I agree 1000% with this silly rating system. I don't understand it. I ask a guy if he's gonna give me a review, I'm not a perfect 10, because I'm not a model, I'm not tall, I'm a caliente, seductive, passionate Latina pretend girlfriend. But I'm not a porn star, and I don't do anal.

The really bi thing. Yes I love girls, clean shaven pussies turn me on. But for now I've only had one bi session with a friend since I joined the site. It's rare. They have to figure out how to make things a little bit clearer.  

I see all these top 10 girls... They honestly all look the same to me. So it can't be just looks lol

We already know that TER absolutely needs a real FAQ for Newbies - a list of real, frequently asked questions and well written, complete step-by-step answers - and that TER should host an FAQ Writing Retreat for major contributors.  

It seems that there should also be a TER Summit Meeting for going thru a long list of suggestions, solutions and possible implementations. Such a meeting would lay out general ideas for TER to work on and there would be quarterly follow-ups to assess progress and provide TER with help with the major problems.  

We could hold the meetings in the auditoriums and seminar rooms at Jack Dunphy University (as long as JDU doesn't gouge TER on the rates) or at Bob Sugar's estate in the Hamptons ... or in Costa Rica or the DR.

I just hope that that TER can come up with an agenda that fits my schedule.

Another ongoing complaint is the TER Forum software that I am guessing is home-made by TER.  (Open source and other free forum software require a statement on the bottom of the web pages and I don't see any such thing on TER pages.) It's really hard to follow and post to topics using "Tree / Flat" only. There are so many better options.

BUT changing Forum Software has the same problem as making any change in the database and search structure: porting the old forum discussions and our collective wisdom :-) to a new Forum software.  

The TER guys in Europe are probably familiar with major changes, like "left side - right side" driving changes. Historically, there was a lot of pre-education but finally they just had to bite the bullet, make the official change at 12 noon (when people are awake, aware and alert) and put up with some traffic jams until the people got used to the new system

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