How would you feel/react if:
(a) a provider wanted to charge a fee (say $25/$50/$100) for a referral for another provider?  
Or
(b)  if you found out that you tried to use this provider for a reference, and she asked the "new provider" you were attempting to book with, for a fee/donation for that referral for your "OK"?

Please don't give the manginas here any ideas.  

If I found out that a provider I had seen was charging other providers simply taking a moment out of her day to ensure a fellow providers safety, I would immediately put her on my "Must miss" list.

And I would hope that if this actually happened to you that you would "name names" on your regional board so everyone could avoid her like the plague. If you don't feel comfortable going public, I think at the very least you should let your potential client know that some hooker is trying to hold you up for a fee before giving him a referral. He could then do what he wanted to with the info.

to include this little tidbit, and make that the sole subject of my dissertation. Or maybe I wouldn't review her at all if I thought that would do more.

It'd be one thing is she operated a 3rd party phone screener/verification service, which many former providers do on the side as they're transitioning to civvie life.  

Exactly my thoughts.
However, thankfully this isn't close to home for me... something I came across randomly.

To charge someone for a reference not cool. I would avoid

A reason that one would feel like extra compensation is necessary would be if you are newbie friendly. It takes a lot to be that, you're always taking one for the team. And then someone is free to go off and see other women with much stricter guidelines, that has certainly happened to me, like training wheels. I can understand the notion that one may deserve more. But I think it should be done at the beginning and only charged to the guy. "Hey, I'm newbie friendly but it's an extra $50 or $100". Don't pass it on after the fact.

I do understand that TOFTT sucks. And giving out referrals means you will most likely be sending your happy customer elsewhere.

To fellow women, agreed, you can't charge them. If you choose to take the risk and see people without references that is YOUR business. Don't punish others in your same boat for your actions.  

Newb diner: Well, no...this is my first time here.

It can be justified.  

A certain provider wanted 50 dollars from me and 50 dollars from the perspective client.  Now, she did not want the money directly.  She wanted it donated to a foundation of some sort and to email the receipt!  Lol!  WTF?

Apples & oranges.

Even if I don't agree with the analogy either, still some pretty witty writing there!  

I can understand why she does it.  

Greedy greedy greedy!!! Shame on her!!!

Agreed. It was funny. Sorry, Jack. Didn't mean to sound like a killjoy.  

Posted By: FoxyNC

Even if I don't agree with the analogy either, still some pretty witty writing there!  
   
   
 Gotta love a sarcastic bastard with a dry wit!

She gets pissed at me.  She wants me to spend my time with her.  I don't mind, she's by far my favorite and I like the attachment and see very few other ladies for special purposes.  I'm not #437-oil change to her, it's much tighter than that.

Conan, can you give us a ruling on the triple negative?  I don't understand the sentence...

would be very loud and widespread. No need to elaborate on that.

Hey Foxy,

You said it as legally & technically precise as I wish to have expressed it to start.
Yes, appalling, indeed. And a conflict of interest.
How could anyone trust a paid for vote... I mean referral

I would pass on the referral from her and I doubt she would ever get my business again. I get P4P, but paying for a referral is just mercenary and seems wrong.
 

If a client pays for a referral, it's bribery. Anyone who pays the bribe gains access to a provider. Sounds dangerous to me.

As if a few hundred an hour is not enough money....
 There are some that want cancelation fees, deposits.  
 now this.  
 Greed and money grubbing folk will always exist in every arena.  
I guess thier five seconds to ensure your safety by sendin a two second reference, is so precious they feel your actually such a lowly creature as to have to bow down to thier sheisty ass and pay. They must be super important and a legend,
 IN THIER OWN MIN

My thoughts exactly! However, did you have to remind us that many providers think of us guys as "lowly creatures"?? It's pretty obvious to most of us guys without being reminded of it.

I think it's horsesh-t. The market tells you whether it can be justified.
Not cross comparing to another industry.

A 25 yr old or 55 yr old, eager to start a journey through this path, who can't seem to get any responses to emails because he doesn't have any experience. Someone tells him to sign up for P411 and filter by Newbie Friendly, and instead of 5 women coming up close to him, it's everyone, but they all have a surcharge. You think he's not going to go for it?  

it's a good idea.  And it's really a double negative.  The fact the word "bad" is used doesn't count.

While pitching Betamax and HD-DVDs.  
Your point is desperate guys will pay it.
I'm an ass but I've never felt desperate to get pussy.
I was a newbie once but I've never felt like a newbie or else that stage was too short for anyone to capitalize on.