If a person was hurt, injured, or even died, while in your presence engaging on this hobby lifestyle. Providers & hobbyists please respond with honest answers only.
I will be calling Winston "The Wolf" Wolf. 
And if you know any first aid, such as CPR, you should attempt to revive the person yourself.
You are answering the question like it's a serious one and not just an attention grab..
I am always first aid, cpr & AED certified, so I would do what’s necessary. I hope if it was vice versa the other party would do the same, or call 911. Any decent human should care enough to do the right thing it’s not a joke thread. I was only interested in honest answers. Thanks Mr Fisher I respect you reply! Xoxo Smile for me!
I was a trained first responder for many years. Of course I would do whatever I could to help the aided.
By the way, under the circumstances described, the first move is to call 911 and get the professionals on the way before you start something like rescue breathing or CPR. You need that help coming ASAP. Doing one-person CPR on a victim can be exhausting and draining. It's best to have backup en route ASAP.
I'd worry about a cover story later. By the way Queen, do you carry an AED to your appointments? LOL
What do you mean by you are ALWAYS first-aid, CPR, and AED certified...? Do you mean you always carry a kit with you?
The situation is definitely not a joke should it happen.. But your thread is a joke..
Which human being with a modicum of decency and empathy is going to answer that they won't do anything? Seriously? Like I said.. Another attention grab..
It will be a very thorough inspection so come prepared with impeccable hygiene and a good attitude. 😁
Very important question, never thought about that before. Nonetheless medics must be called. Fleeing the scene can result in legal trouble.
911 and consequences be damned…
Better to get charged with paying for sex than a charge of failure to render aid. Leave the scene and you open yourself to suspicions and a prosecutor who will lie and exaggerate the incident to get a conviction.
Most hotel have cameras, there's phone communicating between you and victim. Cell phone location these days can be narrowed down to very room you were in, so it's not easy to just walk away,if someone dies during a rendezvous.
Worried the wife may find out ? Still better than a long sentence.
Of course I’d call for medical attention. A dead body would be a lot harder to explain than a visit to the emergency room with a “friend”.
Jokes apart, call 911 and stay until help arrives. Cover story is that she's your friend and you were meeting her. You won't get in trouble this way even if they speculate that this was a P4P meeting. Running away can lead you in legal trouble.
that you are under NO obligation to provide a cover story.
If LE or anyone asks you why you two were together, just state that you would prefer not to answer any questions, and leave it at that. In other words STFU.
Also, lying to LE is a felony in many states.
1. Whether or not you finished before the "emergency" started, and
2. Whether or not waiting for the paramedics comes off of the time she is charging you for. If we have a clear understanding that if she has a medical crisis during out session and the time it takes to get the responders out is off the clock, I would take advantage of that time to get her some help with whatever the problem is, which will also allow me a refractory period before going for the second pop. It's a win for both of us.
Looks like a good opportunity for another level of service to be offered. GFE/PSE or AE, as in Angel Experience (pump life back into your ass with CPR)
Mouth to mouth, not mouth to ass. Lol
....maybe I've been reading too many Asian massage reviews preparing for my upcoming San Diego trip...
but ground zero for Asian massage in SoCal is 90 minutes North (when there is no traffic - middle of the day) in the City of Garden Grove in Orange County. Cruise Beach Blvd. from Garden Grove North to Stanton. Garden Grove has the second largest Vietnamese population in the US, after San Jose in the bay area, and the girls that populate those places are very hot. (San Diego is fourth largest). The Vietnamese coffee houses have some hot girls as well.
What’s to worry about unless you’re married of course. EMS and others might ask how you know them I might say something crazy like a hook up website ad. I doubt they would ask for details. They are trying to find out if you know anything that might help them such as medical history or relatives to contact. If you don’t know just say it. Not overthink it and just be honest.
Cya
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Have you heard of the late Senator Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick? He’s just one example of many who did or might run away and not offer help. how many people who, for a myriad of reasons or situations, would do exactly that. You stated it yourself, you said a married guy, for instance.
...what led up to this event? Also, Did you find him like this or did you witness it? Did you move him? Did he fall? They will in fact as for pertinent details.
If a client got ill during a meeting with me I would help him, including taking him to hospital if required. God forbid he had a cardiac arrest, I would ring 999 and perform CPR until an ambulance arrived. No running away here!
I remember watching a docu about an Australian brothel where a chap had a heart attack and died in flagrante. Emergency services attended but he could not be revived. They told his family he had collapsed outside, just walking down the street and all the paperwork reflected as such. Thought that was kind of cool of them. Why add to a family's trauma?
That's the difference between the U.S. and other countries where this is legal. Although brothels there are not legal, prostitution is, so I imagine the attitude is much different than found here. Doubtful that poor guy would be given the same consideration here, and his family would be told exactly where he was and what he was doing.
You can be sure, most of your replies will come from hobbyists who are most likely to experience such a tragedy as they are really getting up there in age.
You might want to suggest they take preventive health measures like eating healthy foods and regular exercise.
given a lot of thought to just this scenario. I have a VERY older gentleman as a regular client I have been seeing for several years. He has a particular fetish which he likes to be whipped. My motto to each their own and he loves it, so. So much he has bought me a variety of different whips over time.
Like I said he is much older. True I do get nervous during or time together but I can never leave a mark and I have achy shoulders when I leave but I am happy he is happy. Mission accomplished..
I do know all the medical procedures I could do for him were his heart to stop..But if that should be to no avail the best thing I could do for his family his dress him in his regular clothing ( did I mention he likes to wear women's lingerie?)
Get everything kinky out of his high end gorgeous view apartment and wipe everything down of my fingerprints...
Leave, dial 911....I live in NYC Manhattan to be exact as does he. I know cameras are everywhere and that is why I keep huge sweatshirt in vehicle for just such occasion , I know where the nearest payphone is..
His family never needs to know I was ever there...privacy and dignity of my clients are of the utmost importance to me.
Stay safe....!!!!!!!!!!
I do know all the medical procedures I could do for him were his heart to stop..But if that should be to no avail...
And where do you find a pay phone in Manhattan? I haven't seen one in many years. By the time you called 911 it would be way too late.
That's correct, CPR isn't going to restart a heart (the heart is usually out of sync internally, a quivering mass, during a heart attack.) What you do with chest compression is help keep some blood flowing to the brain.
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Defibrillators (shocks) don't actually start the heart, instead it causes all the heart muscle cells to contract and once overcoming their now random firing. This gets them all in the same refractory state and hopefully will sync up after they pass through that refractory time to the next heartbeat.
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A real stopped heart won't start with a shock but requires a more invasive intervention, if it is not already too late (tissue death from lack of oxygen.)
His heart wasn't beating at all. He was in full cardiac arrest. He received CPR for nine minutes to keep the blood flowing throughout his body and a defibrillator provided the shock to restart his heart. There was no "massive intervention" on the football field. In fact he went into cardiac arrest again and was resuscitated again without a "massive intervention."
You must have studied medicine under Dr. Vinnie Boombatz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg36PU96U0w
A common misconception.
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"A heart which is in asystole (flatline) cannot be restarted by a defibrillator" -- wikipedia
"Invasive intervention", not massive intervention. He often misunderstands what people said and then looks dumb when he responds.
...all you succeeded in doing is embarrassing both Lester and yourself. You didn't contribute anything to the elucidation of what constitutes a "cardiac arrest." You posted simply because you are a stalker with no life other than following me around all the time.
Lester said that cardiac arrest could only be treated with "invasive" procedures yet Damar Hamlin was resuscitated without invasive procedures, only with a defibrillator. I didn't use "invasive" to save him further embarrassment but you didn't care about embarrassing Lester as long as you thought you could post a stalkerish "gotcha."
But whatever you think will work for you, go ahead and try. I don't look for gotcha's like you do. In fact, I rarely post to your posts out of the blue unless it's to compliment you or agree with you. You are the one looking for gotcha's. You removed the post where I asked you to link to ANY post where I have been the one to initiate a negative exchange with you. You attack me, and I respond. That's how it has gone for years. That makes you the stalker.
All you did was throw out the word "asystole" which you found on Wikipedia. Asystole is associated with V-fib or V-tach. Damar Hamlin's cardiac arrest was due to commotio cordis. He had NO heartbeat but he did not receive "invasive" treatment. His heart was restarted using a defibrillator.
Fibrillation is not "heartbeat." It is chaotic firing of the heart muscle cardiomyocyte cells. Once sync is lost from the sinoatrial node, sections of the heart start contracting on their own at their own rate (once every two seconds or so.) Since the contractions across the heart are not coordinated, pumping action essentially stops.
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The purpose of the defibrillation shock is to cause all the cells to contract at the same time. They then begin to repolarize and will fire in sync with a normal pulse from the sinoatrial node.
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However when the heart has stopped quivering, aka flatline, a shock is no longer going to cause them to fire and repolarize, because they've deteriorated to a point they are no longer firing at all (hence the flatline.)
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Defibrillation resyncs the heart, it doesn't "start" it if flatlined.
Post his EKG at the time and I'll have a look.
Lester_prairie 1, wikipedia warrior 0. Game over!
I do know all the medical procedures I could do for him were his heart to stop..But if that should be to no avail the best thing I could do for his family his dress him in his regular clothing ( did I mention he likes to wear women's lingerie?)
I did say I would do all I could....
Please read again
consider the possibility that a customer may not survive to the end of the session, so that's why it's customary to get the donation at the beginning of the session. You don't want to be chasing the ambulance down the street yelling, "Wait, he didn't pay yet!"
That with all the sophisticated hi-tech equipment and methods that
NYPD could not find you in a few days?
Do you really think you could wipe down and remove ALL your fingerprints?
What is that huger sweatshirt going to do for you?
Bet you are on video before during and after the change.
If NYPD felt they needed to find you they could and would ...within a few days
Let's not forget about DNV, you are not removing that.
For everyone's sake I hope no one passes away
2023 = 28
Well, many of you may not agree with what I would do, but that's fine. I do know in nyc cops are not that eager to let you go and they notify the family who was there. If an autopsy is preformed the whip markings will show up after the body has be dead over 24 hrs.. here in nyc you aren't getting an autopsy done that fast unless it was a high profile crime or death.
As far as if it were to happen to me, have a heart attack? not breathing? no pulse.. cpr for at least 10 mins.. ( no ambulance gets anywhere in Manhattan in 10 mins..too much traffic... Leave.. do not stay. I also have a private Life. Im dead you are alive and have to answer all NYCPD questions...and your family as they will be contacting you again and will give your info to the family..
Well, many of you may not agree with what I would do, but that's fine.
As far as if it were to happen to me, have a heart attack? not breathing? no pulse.. cpr for at least 10 mins.. ( no ambulance gets anywhere in Manhattan in 10 mins..too much traffic...
This response time comment is not true. According to published statistics, the average response time in Manhattan for FDNY EMS in FY 2022 was 9 minutes and 30 seconds (as per NY1).
The way you described it makes no sense. You would not know he's over and done with while you were doing CPR, however, he WOULD be done once you stopped, changed, ran out, found a mythical pay phone, and called 911. There is no point in doing CPR for ten minutes only to walk away prior to the arrival of EMS - that's the same as doing nothing.
So you'd be better off just owning up to it and saying that you'd leave right away without doing anything and letting nature take its course.
Even if your client voluntarily let you beat the shit out of him prior to collapsing and you bail out before EMS arrives, you are going to probably run into some huge issues. Best thing to do is hang tight and truthfully answer their questions. Better to be a known provider than a possible suspect in a wrongful death or criminal complaint. Trying to tag you with a violation of a legal statue will be a low priority of any cop called to that scene. As said elsewhere, you will provide the missing info that will allow them to process the scene and you will also be the unnecessary paperwork they will choose to not do.
Yes stick around, but wait for your lawyer before speaking.
So you don't kiss, ok I get it. So would you perform CPR if it was needed? And what if he pulled a Squints...lol
Call 911, wish them well and take off!!
If I stay longer to help out, do I then have to pay her $$ to extend our visit? 😉🤣😂
Post of the day. HILARIOUS RESPONSE!! And yes, you do have to pay extra if you stay to help her.
should learn CPR just in case. this has never crossed my mind tbh but I would definitely call 911 to get an ambulance on the way. I would just say he was a friend visiting me for a little bit. met off a dating site or something.
...contact your local red cross office and ask for nearby classes. Often times, you can find them for free. Basic CPR/AED can be covered in 4 hours training. I teach it twice/year for a few local companies and I'm in/out of there in less than an hour. I skip thru a lot of it but doing more in dept training reduces the amount of awareness-level students dramatically. My training provides no certification but it is effective to teach how to give a victim a fighting chance until EMS arrives.
If anyone is interested but can't find or go to a class, they can learn a hell of a lot by watching training vids on youtube. It could save a life.
If she was hurt, I’d probably have to put her out of her misery. Old Yeller Style. Then politely step over the corpse and continue with my day. Is that the type of answer you are looking for?
I mean come on! What would any rationale person do? Call the authorities and extricate yourself from the scene, setting that pace by the quality of the relationship between client and provider and discretion concerns.
What would you do if a person was hurt, injured, or even died while in your presence engaging in this hobby lifestyle? Providers & hobbyists please respond with honest answers only.
What I would NOT try to do is leave her there, fly the coop, and cover my own tracks, because I know that being a first-time incident for me, I wouldn’t have the proper mindset to think of everything or remember every important step of getting out of Dodge. By trying to hide my involvement, I’d end up looking culpable even if I personally didn’t cause the injury. Also, leaving an injured person who later dies for lack of help or help arriving too late, bad juju.
Worse yet, it’s impossible to erase all traces of my presence on such short notice, so someone or some technology would rat me out later.
It would be both embarrassing and difficult to stick around and answer CERTAIN non-incriminating questions, to stick around and have to admit some things, but that’s better than getting caught up later as if I were trying to hide everything.
Of course, if it’s a death, all bets are off. That’s when I’d stick to exercising my legal rights to just remaining silent.
“Clemente was questioned at the scene, determined to be not at fault, and was released to go about his business.”
Lastly, I think a similar question was asked along these lines perhaps here on TER discussion boards, but it was more in a tongue-in-cheek way. I think an outcall escort wrote that an elderly client had told her that if he were ever to suffer a heart attack and/or die in her presence, he didn’t want her to get in any trouble, so he gave her permission to just roll his body out of the hotel room into the hallway while she makes tracks in the opposite direction, lol.
Which is why I tend to shy away from more hardcore aspects of the work. But I would definitely call 911 ASAP. Also CPR/First Aid certified but that won't always help so it's important to call pros. What I wouldn't do? Flee the scene, though I do think this country should think about how it's laws incentivize such behavior.
Make sure they take their meds before you start cracking that whip.
Some years ago a top NYC provider (since retired) was with a client in a hotel and he had a seizure of some sort. She stayed with him, called 911 and waited until the EMTs arrived. He ended up being fine and she introduced him to me at a M&G as "Stroke Guy," which he thought was hilarious.
PS: No cop or EMT ever asked her what she was doing there.
she had already swallowed the evidence.
In reality; no matter if I do CPR then I still would have to call 9-1-1, because they would still need to see a medical professional. And how would you explain what happened. Therefore, I would just Gather my things, Leave the door wide open and on my way out......Call 9-1-1 as an unidentified caller.
You may want to rethink that. You're likely walking past a video camera that has footage of you walking in, then out while calling 911 and until autopsy has proven the cause, you will a subject of interest in a suspicious death or even criminal case. Depending on differing statutes, you also may be opening yourself up to a charge of abandonment even though you may not be a trained 1st responder.
Once authorities determined who you are or you were able to prove who you are, the situation will pretty much explain itself...You will be the unnecessary paperwork they will avoid when they simply take your info and send you on your way.
If it is an outcall and you have a facial mask that looks realistic that you wore when entering that may help on the way out to disguise you.Also what about cell phone data? What if it's an incall at your apartment ?
Anybody else old enough to remember Karl Malden asking this?
Yes, indeed.
I thought KM warned us, "Don't leave home without them." (American Express Travelers Cheques).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0mEAYOKWo8
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There's the "What's in your wallet?" ads for Cap One CCs.
Anybody else old enough to remember Karl Malden asking this?
What will you do? What will you do?
Its obvious in this business you would think you would call for help but in the moment some do panic and get scared because if they slip up and say something they are not supposed to it could put them in a bad spot. Obviously he will be naked because you can't dress a body very easily. I was in a position once where I had to talk to police about an incident that happened, not a death but still police were involved. Because I had other clients in the room that day I had to lie to protect them because I did not want the police searching a finding other people Dna around. I still carry the conviction today of lying to police. My take is protect your clients at all costs even if that means getting convicted. So yes have a story about what happened but don't throw your client or other clients under the bus either. Don't ever mention paid play either because then you are on record as an escort. I'll take lying to a police officer over escort charges any day. Again protect your clients regardless.
lying to LE:
Just don't answer any question beyond giving out your name and address.
You're a good woman Maggie, and an awesome business woman. Keep that black book hidden.
My wife is a nurse since I mostly play with her. In fact when you swing you run into tons of first responders because they love this shit. No one cares why you are hurt. These people want to help you. She would start cpr and I would be 911 and coordinating and listening to her. It’s no big deal people are fucking shit happens. If it’s me then I’m good with going in that two chicks fucked me to death
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