I have had many gals go out for lunch/dinner with me after playtime, and some of the gals are nearly half my age.
But some of my pals have complained that every once in a while they get rebuffed from a young gal when asked to lunch. And those fellas feel that it has much to do with her perception of being a hooker...and being seen with a guy quite a bit older than her. Could it be that the guy is really a butt ugly dude and she want's no one to see her with someone that butt ugly?
It pisses me off on a few levels to hear those stories. I think that if a john is a decent guy, go out with him and placate his ego. It won't fucking kill you. And you might actually have a good time...heaven forbid!
And if you have an aversion to others seeing you as a hooker...might want to take a reality check.
Plenty of times I'm out at dinner and can guess who's paying and who's not. It's just a fun game I like to play LOL
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...to this particular part of culture. There are several young and attractive ladies at my office. One happened to be the daughter of a former officer in the company. She would often go out to lunch with her dad and remarked that they always got "looks" and muttered comments when out.
She of course liked spending time with her dad. But, she didn't care for the looks and muttered comments.
I imagine a young lady that maybe hasn't fully accepted her own choices may not want to "play" the part in public. Then...there's always the being discreet aspect of things. Being seen in public with some random old dudes from time to time isn't the soul of discretion. Beyond that...how many of us spend more time at work than we have to?
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Have a bf near by.
That may be why. Or maybe just tons a family in area tht don't know they work.
Would you be seen with a woman if your wife was living in the very same city and you did not have a VALID excuse why you were seen with many women? Well, many of us have family or friends and can't explain being seen with some random guy every week. Once in a while...sure, but not every damn week. It's not about being "with him" but about being all over him. I will not hold hands, kiss, etc. in public with anyone, much less with someone who would force people to raise eyebrows. If a guy demands that, he is certainly free to find a HOOKER that has nothing to lose.
Yes, we can say he is a business associate as I often do, but I will NOT ever engage in PDA...that's simply asking for unwanted attention, and it's tacky to boot. Of course, I have issues with a future employer or my family finding out I am a hooker...a "reality check" would be needed if I did not care about tossing everything I just worked the last 7 years to get, for a few bucks.
Keep in mind many men also refuse to go in public with us....I certainly don't give them shit about it, and am more than willing to cook for them so we don't have to leave. They are using their brains vs. their ego for once. Some people have more to lose than others, but if I am not in my home town, hell yah! Being ugly does not bother me at all...I am not perfect myself. It is more about having to explain why I am seen with a DIFFERENT guy every week
Dear Ms. Rayne:
Considering that you are in the process of completing several social and psychological science projects where men are the subject you could say that each of those men were part of your behaviorial science project. Then during this time that you were accruing this information under the guise of an adult companion that part of the job was to interview and interact with them in certain settings. In fact, you could entitle your project" Gay or Straight": The process of determining where a male falls on a continuum of sexual orientation.
Then the monetary piece falls into the fact that you were a college student and a parent and you have to support yourself while doing your research. That is why the pseudonym "London Rayne" is necessary because you could not afford to be discovered as an intellectual who was social but sexual in her research. Henceforth a small part of it was the mastering of their Johnson for pay and so you would have something cerebral to say within the course of your study.
Yea, you saw how good that worked for the last "hooker" who claimed to have sex with 200 men for research? Next...
Ms. Rayne but your different. You are already a noted author and former business woman who is known by her friends as the "hoe in the know". Now you're a light millionaire rolling in the dough. Have fun with your royalties.
Which century and what country do you live? I go to dinner and lunch with with women quite often. You don’t think every man and woman you see in a restaurant is married to each other or boy friend and girlfriend do you.
If you live in place with population of 1000 and 2 family owned restaurants, suppose it is different. Big cities, no one gives a flying fuck who you are having lunch and dinner with.
Yes, we can say he is a business associate as I often do, but I will NOT ever engage in PDA...that's simply asking for unwanted attention, and it's tacky to boot. Of course, I have issues with a future employer or my family finding out I am a hooker...a "reality check" would be needed if I did not care about tossing everything I just worked the last 7 years to get, for a few bucks.
Keep in mind many men also refuse to go in public with us....I certainly don't give them shit about it, and am more than willing to cook for them so we don't have to leave. They are using their brains vs. their ego for once. Some people have more to lose than others, but if I am not in my home town, hell yah! Being ugly does not bother me at all...I am not perfect myself. It is more about having to explain why I am seen with a DIFFERENT guy every week.
It would be different if I had a full time job right now, which would warrant me being seen with different people at dinner, but I don't. It would be obvious I was either a whore or a slut...neither of which I care to broadcast in my home town. In another city, no issues at all. Maybe you have the liberty of not caring about what others think...I do not. You don't have to explain to your parents why you are with some old guy ALONE, at a different place every damn week...I would, and don't care to.
You are probably a professional with an established reputation people recognize, so of course it's not a big deal for you. Just like I would imagine an Attorney, Real Estate broker, etc. would be able to explain to his wife and kids why he is always out with women. I don't have that luxury at this very moment. My parents know I have been interning for the past 2 years, and that's it. Professors and Preceptors rarely have dinner with their female students (ALONE) and for good reason.
You also forget that we can't use our real names lol. I can just see the guy calling me "London" in front of whomever happens to know me. Yea, that would go over well. I have lived here most of my life...everyone knows everyone here. It's not a big city, like some people think. So, once in a while I go out to dinner, but for the most part we stay in. It's not only my choice in the matter...many clients do not want to go in public if they live here. It's common sense for them.
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These girls are paid to fuck and suck virtually any guy with the price of admission. To ask them to show everyone in town exactly how low the bar has been set is cruel and unusual punishment IMO.
BTW are these guys offering full freight for these little lunch/dinner dates, or are they expecting them OTC?
and I too like the game of Lets guess who is the hooker/john couple? at the restaurant too.
Oh shit...now that's funny right there bwahahhaahaa!
Oops...it was supposed to be the trick question.
Hooker...or NOT?
Oh shit...and he's a cheap-o!
Is that sb # 385?
You because Chicago baseball decided to step it up tonight, and even your Bulls are giving the Heat all they can stand tonight. and LR for making me think of crawfish, I am well on my way to scarfing down about fifteen pounds tonight and washing them down with at least two bottles of wine. Sorry LR, but I like wine with my mudbugs, even though it's looking like it is going to cost me three or four grand just to stay home by myself tonight. It would have been much cheaper to go out with a hooker all night. lol
You know it's tough to type coherently after a couple of bottles of wine when you are out of practice. Oh well four or five fingers of Crown Royal will counteract the wine effect. I would hate to start posting as incoherently as our good friend The Dungman.
What does that say? That we are both incredibly handsome? We know that ain't true! But M&Gs are scary that way, ain't they! What a wormy-looking bunch of fuckers!
But really, I've taken lots of girls out to dinner after a session, OTC only. The last one was only a few days ago. GaGa it was like Vegas. Guys were walking into walls. Poor guy's wife at the next table to us had to sit there while hubby kept gaping at my "date." Worth the price of admission. My only problem was having to look across the table at my date and keeping myself from jumping her across the table.
Now expecting, or even worse "demanding" dinner OTC is extremely boorish behavior, but I have had literally hundreds of meals with providers and only a handful of them were actaully part of a paid date.
As for our dinner in Vegas, Inicky can attest to this, we took two gorgeous Canuks, and another lady who's name and face I honestly can't remember, but a very nice lady, and it was most certainly off the clock. The tab was well over a grand, enough that rather than fight over the check Nicky and I split it, but the ladies certainly weren't charging for their time, and a good time was had by all.
" Thank You Mr. Helper
Most people here know I don't pay to watch a woman eat or sleep. But if we've had fun in the sack and she gives me the right signals, I'll buy her dinner. Nothing complicated about that. You'll find it in my review of her that just went up. Believe it or don't, it's fine with me.
That's the way I recall it. The other gal was Klassy Kelli of Orlando. And you're right, she was a sweetheart. RomeoGolf was there for a while but had to leave. Shit, we really could have used him when the check came! And, Christ could those two lovely Canucks drink the vino! Four bottles of it, which is why the bill was so damn high. Then I doubled down on the damage by taking Priscilla back to my room for an hour or so. GaGa, it's fucking expensive hangin' around with you! Fucker!
after all the money you spend on "the hobby" a grand here and there for eats and drinks will hardly break the bank.
Doing it every day however, might just put a dent into a "hobby budget" though, but that's what makes life worth living, isn't it?
and on several different boards, and although I no longer live in Ga, I still get out there quite often, still have both an office and a warehouse and I go to many more Braves games than either Astros or Rangers games. So GaGambler I will remain.
and FWIW I don't really like country music in general and I hate line dancing in particular.
People are good at putting the pieces together.
If her peers/friends/family/professors/coworkers/etc see her with someone twice her age, what else are they going to think?
But some of my pals have complained that every once in a while they get rebuffed from a young gal when asked to lunch. And those fellas feel that it has much to do with her perception of being a hooker...and being seen with a guy quite a bit older than her. Could it be that the guy is really a butt ugly dude and she want's no one to see her with someone that butt ugly?
It pisses me off on a few levels to hear those stories. I think that if a john is a decent guy, go out with him and placate his ego. It won't fucking kill you. And you might actually have a good time...heaven forbid!
And if you have an aversion to others seeing you as a hooker...might want to take a reality check.
Plenty of times I'm out at dinner and can guess who's paying and who's not. It's just a fun game I like to play LOL
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Agreed. If we were talking say once or twice a year, sure, but get real lol. Even my lazy ass sees 2 guys a week. That's far too many guys to be seen with in public. New Orleans is not as big as some hicks seem to think. It is a tiny city.
..about a decade before Katrina, I was honestly kind of disappointed. Bourbon Street (or at least the part for the tourists) was about three blocks long--if you went beyond that, or took a right or left into a cross-street, it felt like you were immediately in slum-land with homeless junkies galore all relieving themselves right in the middle of the street.
Is it any better now, after the rebuilding?
Yes, it is very dangerous if you don't know the layout, and even moreso for women alone at night. If you have not been robbed at gunpoint at least once, you are not a local lol. Nola is not just the area known as the "French Quarter" that most associate with it. We have Uptown, East, Westbank, North Shore, etc. It's big compared to hick towns, but nothing like Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, NYC, or LA.
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Because too many johns look like CPA's...dorky.
I got took to one, She was looking sexy. All the guy's were looking at her an the dancers were hitting on her. No one new I was alive.LOl
Dear Lungman:
Would you say as a social detective and former spy that the incongruencies would be hard to ignore? Also would you think that there was some social concomitant that would be missing. Henceforth, that would lead you to surmise the fact that the young woman in question was being compensated for her time.
what people would think!.... A fancy restaurant, dinner, white wine are ALWAYS preferred! Of course, a GIFT for the time spent is expected 
But we all know you don't care about that. Never mind that a girl has friends, family, significant others, other clients, teachers, etc out there. You go ahead and post another chauvinistic thread to try and bitch about us daring to say no to something.
Ah ha ha ha....I guess she told you lol. While we are at it, why not ask why every hooker does not broadcast her face photos in the very town her CHILDREN go to school in? As if, it's not obvious. I highly doubt CPA's post was serious...more like tongue in cheek, but some of the other posters need a wake up call. Not everyone is the proud hooker. It's a job...an ILLEGAL job, we don't care to shout about from the rooftops. Hell, let's just call the IRS and the cops too, and tell them. 
If a provider is not discreet or worried about what she has to lose, what makes you think she gives a shit about what YOU have to lose? I love my clients and do my best to honor most of their requests, but I am not tossing my hard work or my family, for any of you. Bank on that shit. I would not expect you to do that to stroke my ego, either. I guess some people have nothing to lose...must be nice not to have to worry about the consequences of your actions. Not all of us have that same luxury.
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If I was a 20 something girl I wouldn't be caught dead in public with most of you inept ugly bastards. lol
I don'y know how girls suck some of you guys off without closing their eyes frankly.
Nope...ugly men could also be my brother, father, friend, etc. so it's not about that. BTW...I do close my eyes bwahahhaha.
Lol, there's that, but more than anything it's much less personal. You could be a Brad Pitt look-a-like, and charm the pants off a girl, and it still may not be ok for her to go out because of what she has going on in her life. Same as when a client has to leave a bit early/get there late, can't go out during long dates, or doesn't want to hobby where he lives.
It shouldn't be that big of a deal to accept that we are all, indeed, human.
I don'y know how girls suck some of you guys off without closing their eyes frankly.
I've actually had a couple of good-looking clients in their 20s ask me to go get a drink/dinner/whatever with them. I don't think anyone would bat an eye if they saw us, unless of course we were to be seen by someone who knows one of us. The issue is purely discretion.
It's nothing to do with the guy it's just chics go out and go out doing the things they like, the movies and clubbing and things with their friends where they enjoy it just to hang out. It is about us, it's why would you want to be paraded around like a paid for item by someone and actually enjoy that. At the end of the day we like and are comfortable having sex with guys indoors in private not to be paraded around don't you become someone's dumb mistress for that.
or some ladies, it is their age and they are in it for fast cash and to go out.
Some ladies understand their time is of value and they would feel they were being used and not compensated as they are a business and not really friends with many of their clients.
Others want to keep a healthy boundary, not mislead a man who might be vulnerable and prone to a romantic delusion that could end ugly.
As a legal brothel lady, I am not allowed to go on an outdate without compensation. If you desire something real, then you need to go to seek something in the real world
I can say that my clients are not true friends, but acquaintances through a business transaction. Have I gone out with a couple for a meal, yes but they are very well known to me, still an acquaintance and not a real friend. Some men I will not be seen out with no matter what for a variety of reasons. Each to her own I guess.
during the 20mn it took me to get there she was drilled by looks and whispers. When I walked in I could hear the other whispers and picked on it right away. To me it's no surprise some young providers don't want to go through that and I don't blame them for it. For the ones who don't mind I applaud you; this society really sucks and it's good to have some people feeling comfortable giving everyone the middle finger!