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High Volume vs. Low Volume.......Can You Tell?
ROGM 35 reads
posted
1 / 27

Define High Volume and Low Volume.  

Unless you know how many guys an escort sees a day or week you don't know if she's high or low volume.

davincib1 96 Reviews 14 reads
posted
2 / 27

I think the one telltale sign of one vs the other is service quality.  Hotel quality, room cleanliness, provider cleanliness, cleanliness of the bathroom, whether she offers water, etc..  I have seen alot of providers both "upscale" and BP quality.  High volume girls tend to rush, and it feels more like an assembly line than an actual session.  There are also signs you can pick up on pre-session i.e. if she is constantly texting or calling to get an ETA.  Either she's waiting on both you and food to get there or she has double booked and it's first come first served.  If you make it to the location, text for the room number and have to sit there for 15/30 mins before she is ready.  That isn't true in all the cases as I have had ladies tell me they don't get ready (putting on lingerie/makeup, etc..) until the guy confirms he is there.  

 
Higher priced girls I would assume are lower volume due to their price point, and the opposite for lower priced girls, but who knows.  Some ladies are accommodating with things out of our control like traffic, can't find parking, etc while others will cancel if you're not there at the appointed time.  That may be due to them being low volume and having a light schedule or high volume and not wanting your time to bleed over into their next appointment.  

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 21 reads
posted
3 / 27

...VERY high volume.  K-girls see at least 10 clients a day with only a ten minute break between clients.  It's because of  their good service and very low rates compared to other providers.  This is according to coeur-de-lion, a K-girl aficionado with 371 reviews, ALL of K-girls.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 21 reads
posted
4 / 27

You'll find that almost every thread is about "high-volume, unselective* agency girls."
Apparently, the mongers on the K-girl board are not very "discerning."

 
*The bookers for K-girl agencies are actually very selective about their customers.
(See, K-fanboys, I'm fair & balanced.  LOL!)

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 31 reads
posted
6 / 27

He's just trolling the Kgirl customers here.  He's NEVER seen a Kgirl so he has no first-hand experience.  I have put him on ignore.  He's a complete waste of time on the subject of Kgirls. He could never get approved to see them, so now he bashes them.  He has posted blatantly racist posts on the Kgirl board against Asians which the mods had to remove.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 22 reads
posted
7 / 27

After the "Blue Toast" I'd look at the wastepaper basket to see how filled it was...when it was overflowing I'd say ,"Yumi" been pretty busy..lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 20 reads
posted
8 / 27

they wait until it's full, so there may be multiple days of cups in there.  

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 13 reads
posted
9 / 27

They’re like shot cup, one and done. But their “Business Model” wouldn’t allow them to be sloppy. Not throwing out the trash one or two days ok but to allow an overflow …. I still say “Boobie” is very busy.

chloemercier See my TER Reviews 25 reads
posted
10 / 27

Exactly what I was saying in another post!! High priced indie girls are more likely to be low volume and not see multiple men a day. Sometimes I don't even see more than one gentleman a week.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 15 reads
posted
11 / 27

I'll be sure to tell her that. . . . .  on my way out, of course.  

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 20 reads
posted
12 / 27

Seeing that you're leaving and all....can't leave empty handed.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 17 reads
posted
13 / 27

My experience has been that the agency and non-agency K-girls I've seen hardly fit the description of unselective, pump and dump or unhygienic. The vast majority (99+%) have been exceptionally hygienic both in terms of personal hygiene and cleanliness of the location. I think I've seen maybe 2 trash cans that were anywhere near being called "overflowing" most were nearly empty. The general complaint from people in my area is that it is nearly impossible to get into the agencies and the independent ladies are just about as bad.  

 
Personally I find most of these discussions on TER suffer from what might be called the no true scottsman syndrome. Most people have their opinions and will just keep rejecting what anyone else says on the basis of "that's not who I am talking about" I think that your "who takes great pride in her hygiene and GFE services"  is someone of a symptom of that type of thinking. You clearly mean the characteristics of the group you're holding high cannot be shared by the one you're denigrating. They could not possibly be high volume but clean or take pride in their service, health, cleanliness or satisfaction by their clients.

 
I've heard, and read, way too many horror stories about high priced independents to believe the claims you make here are true unless one is willing to rationalize how all the exceptions are not really who the speaker/writer was putting in the two separate classes to make their claim.

helixir 54 Reviews 16 reads
posted
14 / 27

About her performance.  
Even a high volume girl might take the time to take time, to keep everything clean and presentable, to be in the moment, to make her look nice, etc.  
And even a low volume girl might just not give a shit and might express her disdain through carelessness and disregard for atmosphere and presentation.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 12 reads
posted
15 / 27

NTS means that when you pick an arbitrary quality that defines a side and claim that without this quality no one can be on that side,and THEN when provided with counterexamples, dismiss them by modifying this quality assertion.

 
In this situation , it's a simple case of bias of asserting that someone with high volume cannot be hygienic.

 
A NTS in this situation would be saying no kgirl is hygienic because she does high volume. Then when someone points out there are low volume kgirls, then  the modified argument would be that no true kgirls are low volume or kgirls with low volume aren't called kgirls.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 33 reads
posted
16 / 27

Yet he replied to my post!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 
CDL is upset because I posted HIS OWN WORDS, i.e., K-girls see 10 guys a day and they only take 10 minutes between customers.

 
CDL: "He has posted blatantly racist posts on the Kgirl board against Asians which the mods had to remove."
How convenient!!  You can say anything you want without any proof by blaming the moderators for removing the "blatantly racist posts."

 
On the Politics board, CDL has posted blatantly racist posts against Blacks and blatantly anti-Semitic posts which the mods had to remove.

iHeartMouthHugs 40 reads
posted
17 / 27

I knew a provider once many years ago who was a very heavy smoker and quite lazy. I didn’t know this until the one time she had me come to her place as she hadn’t booked a room anywhere, but still wanted to make some dough. Her ash trays (yes, plural) were piled so high that they were spilling over. One of them was the standing old school metal types that used to be found outside of clubs and whatnot, with the flip over dome cover but this one was too full to cover. I watched her accidentally start an ashtray fire putting a cig into the pile of the standing ashtray, and then she poured what was a cup of floaters or a spit cup for tobacco possibly all over the pile of burning cig butts. The smell was so brutal, but I think I painted enough of an image. Did she then clean any of it up? Nope. Did it seem to bother her? Nope. Did I leave? Yup. Have I seen her since? Nope.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 35 reads
posted
18 / 27

How about BBFS K-girls?  Do they wait until their pussies are full of cum before they empty the "cups" in there?

36363jensen 4 Reviews 14 reads
posted
19 / 27

Please go back and read what I wrote. I did not claim a logical fallacy but used the reference to point to a behavioral trait often exhibited in these discussions related to low and high volume such as what was being made.

 
What you describe is one way the fallacy manifests itself but hardly is the defining way. That all such responses to any counter arguments have in common is the rejection of any offered evidence that refutes the general/global claim made by definitionally excluding the data/observations from being "true" examples.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 13 reads
posted
20 / 27
Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 23 reads
posted
21 / 27

First of all, the only thing that really matters is how the Escort performs if the amount of Clients that the Escort sees within a 8 to 12 hour day affects her performance after so many Clients. Then she needs to cut back on the amount of clients she's taking on &/or number of days that she's working.

90s_porn 34 reads
posted
22 / 27

I have actually found most k girls to be cleaners and more hygienic , no matter the volume they’re handling  

As to the few non k indies — where had bad experience w - mind you these were 400-500 and above so not like super low end  

- hotel bathroom unclean w toiletries all over , dirty towels on floor, hair in the shower tub and on the soap
- when you hug them you can smell smoke on the hair and breath although no visible sign in the room  
- bed seems messy w random stuff thrown about  
- most importantly, when you go down , you can smell - and I don’t mean the natural smell, or that someone else had been there, but just lack of hygiene - and once that happens , the whole session seems off  

On the other hand , Non k agencies actually have been better for me — there was an agency in SoCal — moonfruit- some of the girls were just amazing with super clean incalls and extremely methodical appointments just like w k girls  

this was during the golden era of 2014-2016  — was an agency with legit models set up in apartments like k girls did , and slightly higher donation levels (400 ish) but these were the types of girls today I can see easily command 1000 plus . Sadly for us mongers , they got busted in 2018 I think. I kept seeing one of the girls after as an SB type arrangement but then she moved on to a regular job and faded away.  

the game has changed a lot since 5-7 y ago I feel , and now if you want the same level of cleanliness as k girl outfits , you need to shell out atleast 2-3x the dough - that’s just my opinion based on my experience

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 12 reads
posted
23 / 27

I read it just fine.

The main issue I see is the claim that high volume means bad hygiene and no pride in work etc. That statement is clearly faulty, but its not because of NTS imo.

 
The logical chain here is high volume ->no hygiene and no pride in service. Kgirls are high volume, therefore they don't have hygiene.

 
The fault is with initial claim. High volume doesn't mean those things.

Rejection of evidence as low volume isn't a NTS as the claim rests on volume itself. If of course, high volume kgirls are being taken and claimed not to be high volume, then yes it is NTS.

 
Just my two cents.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 22 reads
posted
24 / 27

work in one location are always the cleanest and most hygienic because they spend so much time there, they treat it the same as their living premises, whereas the touring girls tend to be more lax about cleaning the premises.  They are usually only there three weeks at a time and are required to give it a thorough cleaning as they leave, but during their stay, some will do as little as possible.  I had one regular who worked from the same apartment for the same agency for over a year that scrubbed her bathtub with disinfectant EVERY morning before getting ready for work and the rest of the room was cleaned, dusted and spotless all the time.  It adds to the GFE feel when the location is clean.  

 
The dirtiest was from a Filipino indie who used the living room as a storage locker.  You had to navigate your way through the boxes and trash to get to the bedroom, and the bathtub/shower looked like it had NEVER been cleaned.  She offered a shower but would not get in with you.  She didn't want to get the foot fungus that you were going to get.  LOL     That was a one and done for me.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 16 reads
posted
25 / 27

We could be talking about the same girl.  Lol

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 20 reads
posted
27 / 27

Do some providers leave evidence they are high volume?  Some, probably.
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Are there physical indications they are high volume?  Unllikely.

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