Perhaps it's typical that gentlemen want to give the lady an orgasm. For me, it's very nearly a need. I find it very difficult to cum until she has, or at least until she has given a very good performance of her own enjoyment. Not that I buy the act, but the girl's effort gets me excited.

I've always had a strong desire to please every girl I've been with. Ever since my SO decided she didn't like sex anymore, I think my ego has suffered horribly.

I'm a very good lover. (Ladies, you'll have to take my word on that until I get around to you.) The number one thing I'm looking for in a provider is her ability to enjoy herself and the time we spend together. I've found this attribute to be fairly rare.

I prefer to massage a providers hands, feet and the rest of her, lick her for two hours and make her cum seven times over anything else.

Believe it or not, it's tough to find a girl that provides that kind of service. Perhaps it requires a certain level of chemistry (YMMV) or maybe it’s simply too much to ask for.

riker

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Riker, Crotchless has been very truthful with you (thanks for that, Crotchless - I am very glad that the ladies can post anonymously and in that way speak honestly about topics like this without risking losing business).

The reason most providers do not orgasm is not that they are "saving" it for their SO, or that they are incapable of having an orgasm, or that they secretly think all clients are jerks who they resent and do not want to orgasm with, but is the reason Crotchless gave:  It gets in the way of business, because it wears them out, and makes it harder for them to see as many clients.

I think you are asking for a little too much.

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Crotchless Panties.  Thanks for the refreshing candor.
You intelligence probably makes you a marvelous GFe.  is tere a way to find out?

You have to realize when I'm being sarcastic. I'm not literally asking for a provider to cum 7 times during a session - (though I might pay an overnight fee to get that, now that I think about it.)

The point I was trying to make through the exageration is that I'd rather give her an orgasm than have one myself.

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me. What makes you think I might be somebody who has changed thier name?

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Nothing to forgive, really. I've never used a different alias, but I'd be happy to become your board buddy.

(How do you do the little face - except it's like it's winking? I've seen it done before, but I can't remember - oh well,)

wink,
riker

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as for that question and I  can only speak for me  I LOVE TO HAVE ORGASMS  and the more I have them the  more I  want to keep on going  but I  know as from friends  and providers some woman it take so much for them to have orgasm and not  easy to have one and take time  AND I THANK GOD I M NOT THAT WAY  but most of my female friend  which not providers   they do have hard time with that, but the more I get the more I want to keep on going  as long the guy can keep up and as always  YMMV plays big part and how good the guy is and how long he can hold it and foreplay before too. but some of them just like to get it on and not worry bout  what they want to do for you  which I  can understand   you there for them, but sure I m glad that most of my client  love to pleases me as much I  want to please them   since the reason I  get into this for the fun of it  and with my high sex drive   I LOVE IT  

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Excellent point ! CP-1 Riker-0  
A true gentleman ( client ) will put that into
consideration.  That is why I ALWAYS book at least
a 4 hour appt. and sometimes more when I travel.
If you want quality, my friends, you have to be
willing to compenstae for it.

When I first started as a Provider I would watch the older girls fake these large O's over and over. I couldn't believe the men bought it. We would drive in the car and fake big O's. Clean the toilet and fake big O's. You get it. Now I'm really good at faking it. It works and the client thinks you enjoyed it. I love when the client has his tv on. He can give me oral and I can watch tv. Faking the big O all the way. Less work and closer to our time call.

The basic problem is that he is too much work. Working ladies  dont like that much work. Remember its work unless its with someone who is not paying us. This is all fake. Clients pretend that we love them and want to be with them. Providers pretend that this client isnt the 7th guy shes had to have s*x with that day. Come on, what woman laughs at all your jokes but leaves at her time call? Another problem is that the too much work guy needs a lot of attention. He will paw all over us. Need need hugs and kisses for hours. After that much work we have to go home, wash our hair everything. Then change our clothes because the next person can smell the other guys sweat in our clothes. Also too much work guy makes us sore. This is a business and if you dont believe it, try not paying the lady when she shows up. Suddenly you are not the best lover and your jokes where never funny.


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After I cum large, I don't want any stimulation on my "little man in the canoe."  For  me licking for two hours would be so painful. It feels like when you cum and for two hours the lady wont stop licking your head... Ouch. I also need to sleep for a bit. You sound like a nice guy..maybe you should get a Mistress?

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Of the time I lay down with my vibrator, determined to see what it would feel like to O myself to death!  (That was right after watching Bram Stoker's Dracula, and seeing Keanu Reeves hanging in the dungeon, the life being drained out of him while the vampiric beauties were pleasuring him to death, and he sure looked like he was LOVIN it!)

Anyhow, with the help of Mr Energizer, I got to number 5 in a row within 15 minutes and jeeez I almost left my body. The first 3 were incredible, but then it became more difficult.

Death by Orgasm.  That's it.  And a chicken in every pot, lol.  So that's what they mean by land of the free and the  home of the brave.

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I am going to try that right now. Maybe I'm doing it wrong? It's sometimes like when I watch a Porno. I'm into the porn but after I cum I don't care about the porn anymore. I also have to say your discription of Keanu made me laugh. I could see how juicy of a fantasy he is for you

I am much like riker, I love to please the person that I am
with as well as getting pleasure from my partner, its not as
though I want for someone to O so many times as it is that I
want for them to enjoy my company and accept that I am willing
to share in the good feelings and O ss, it helps me to feel
worth while about who I am, I am more of a giving person than
a receiving person, but I have been working on giving and receiving in a more balanced way. but to that end I still like
to see and feel pleasure from the other person, and as for the
ladies who fake it keep in mind that I am aware of not just sounds from the mouth but I also am aware of body movement and
twitching ect, so I can usually tell if it is faked or not and
to be honest I would feel worse if you fake it than if you were
to just express your true feelings, I don't fake things and I
feel that those who do fake leave me feeling insulted.

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Would that not be a semicolon?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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My experience with DATY is...

1- a provider will never really let go on the first session, unless she has not seen anyone else on that day and is in the right frame of mind...

2- a real O for women comes with trust... she must trust you enough to let you bring her to over the top.

3- most providers don't trust strangers which is what you are until you become a regular.

4- to really have a connection with a provider you have to really care about them, not just want have sex and leave.  If you follow this path you may be looking in the wrong place... try dating.

5- If you spend approx. $300 per visit and see a provider 2 a month that's $7,200 a year to have a woman enjoy herself...

If you really want a woman to come at the same time you do marry her... the ring alone will increase your chances greatly.

If your already married.... try women either really young who don't know any better... or really old who will really enjoy the attention.

Just an opinion.

Spyder Robinson wrote a book about... I'm still not sure what it was about.... but part of the deal was technology introduced a form of addiction called "wireheading" where a wire was placed in the hypothalamus and connected thru one's skull via an RCA like plug. Low voltage stimulation caused continuous orgasmic pleasure....

I prrefer the old fashioned way... two people finding out each other's zones and a whole lot of kissing and touching in between...

Spyder Robinson wrote a book about... I'm still not sure what it was about....

Well Mr. Straightman, we can see the things that stick in YOUR memory, lol.

But your description of wirehead must be akin to the experiments where rats in a cage touch the food pellet lever, realize that they orgasm, and then keep touching that lever until it's "Rat Overboard!"  

Like you, I also prefer "The Exploring Duet" sounds like the name of a group, lol.

Afterwards we can name them "the Exploding Duet", lol.




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Please describe your minimum work guy for me. How fast is he required to cum with nothing but an HJ? What's the maximum allowable time on top? At what point do you begin instructing him to hurry up? What percentage do you send home without a pop?

Nicole,

It seems like you're my only hope! I really wasn't expecting all this honesty from some of you ladies. "It's just a job," "it's all an act" "you're too much work, trying to make us cum." I expected the ladies to at least fake like they like the orgasm on the board just as they fake the orgasm in person.

You know what it is, that new provider board has the ladies in "open-up and share mode."

Thank you, Nicole, for loving the O (or at the very least pretending too

Be there soon!
riker

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I quit! The messages on this string, on balance, have been very discouraging. Everyone ignored the hand, foot and back massage and went straight for the O. I suppose it's the most obvious sign of enjoyment during a primarily sexual encounter - which is why I offer it as the central topic and perhaps why I focus on it myself.

But the underlying need I have is to spend time and money with a provider who enjoys what she does. I'm reasonably attractive, well mannered, laid back and good natured - not at all difficult to get along with. I don't demand orgasms, I offer to share the fun

Like any gentleman, I don't want to see a provider who hates what she does (and therefore, likely hates herself) and who does it just for the money.

You've never had a mistress, or you'd realize she's more expensive than you ever would have guessed. Wives have good orgasms for about six months, slowly declining from there till about year 3 and it's over (generally speaking).

Doesn't a provider feel that the session was a failure if the gentleman doesn't cum? I realize she's doing this ten times a day, which is why I make the two hour appointment. One pop the first hour. The second hour is spent talking, relaxing - resting - recuperating. I know she has more money to make that day.

But even if it's a first session, only an hour, I want to know what the girl enjoys. If it's a good massage - her hands, feet, scalp, shoulders or wherever - or a nice soft licking with an O at the end, friendly conversation, a cup of coffee or a good sit com -- I want to discover what it is and share the fun

Ok, I also want to cum - but to me her enjoyment is just as important to me. She can fake the enjoyment if she wants - But it would be a lot less WORK for her if she could just let go and have a good time.

I've found a couple like this but they're out of town travelers, unfortunately, and it's rare.

I quit!
I am riker

I agree -- I'd rather spend a whole hour daty and could care less if I cum or not. At my age my orgasm basically means I'm done for the night. I'd settle for a good faked orgasm, though.

Would you rather she filed her nails while you dined? She's trying to make you feel good by faking an orgasm. What a nice thing to do.

Anyone remember the Orgasmatron from Barbarella??  (Wow, what a great, if extremely silly, movie.)

Wow.  Spyder (Spider???) Robinson.  Great book ref., if we are talking about the same guy.  Go Callahan!!!  The only damage he may have done is, perhaps, have been the inspiration for the cantina scene in Star Wars, The Umpteenth Hope.  

There seem to be a lot of S.F. fans on this board.  The next post following yours (and, now, mine) uses the nom de punt "Jack Vance."  Yet another reason this board makes me feel all comfy and fuzzy.  (Oh dear.  That brought to mind Chewbaca.  I have to stop posting and go read some real science fiction.  Everyone please log into Amazon at once and buy Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds.)

with a dozen ladies who don't fake it. They are not the high volume ladies, unless of course we are talking about the number of orgasms they have. Remember, not all women are the same. When you find a provider who is sweet, sexy, fun and truly multiorgasmic, she is a very rare and treasured person.

I've always been pretty focused on "her 'pleasure'" as well.  And I always try to look past the acting to the physiological.  

But one of the few times when the physiological reaction was so pronounced that I was convinced I had succeeded (years ago at a small "ranch" in Nevada) My Lady spent much of the next 45 minutes sobbing hysterically in my arms.  

It sunk into my pathetic brain that maybe I wasn't really doing it for "her."  Maybe (and I am NOT saying this about your motivation, Riker - with me it would have been driven by my own pathology - an utter lack of sexual self-confidence) I was really doing it for my own ego and not for "her 'pleasure'."  I realized that trying too hard is not necessarily doing My Lady a kindness.

Number One, I think you opened up a can of worms here.

Picard out.

Well, I started out by admitting this was my personal pathology. I realize, it's a need of my own and that I'm not doing it for her. Thank you all for your insights.

From now on, I'm not going to be so concerned about her pleasure. Certainly this means, I won't be enjoying myself as much either. Perhaps it is time for me to quit.

rik......

7 GUYS IN ONE DAY YUK!!!!!!!!  iT SEEMS TO ME WHEN YOU GET TO BE THIS BITTER AND CALLOUS IT IS TIME TO FIND A NEW WAY TO RIP PEOPLE OFF!  I SAY THIS AND I AM A PROVIDER WHO DOESN'T FAKE ORGASM BUT 2 A DAY IS MY LIMIT MAYBE THERE'S A PEARL OF WISDOM IN THAT!

Not that convenient for me.

And one nice O is all I need, though I'm happy to give you whatever you like. But yes, conversation, dinner, massage, it's all part of the deal. I just want you to enjoy yourself as well. And of course, I know you can. It's just hard to find a woman like you, particularly in my neck of the woods.
rik

Nicole,
Thank you for getting it sO..O..O..O....O

..O completely!

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riker...O

Hi riker,
So you like to drink juice and not fine wine.
I agree with wildlinda32 and i'm shock SexyCurvesDC, Sweetsable, and CLSexxyRed haven't replied yet (smile) I LOVE TO HAVE ORGASMS" Your strong desire to please a women excites the heck out of me. What you are looking for in a provider is her ability to enjoy herself, Well I hope you like your hair pulled. Sweetie, it is not tough to find the right provider...You just haven't made it to the right door yet. " Wink " Seek and you shall find, Knock and the door shall be open.



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F'goodness sakes... we do not all have SO's or husbands. I surely don't, and I do plan full well on enjoying my time with my clients every bit as much as they enjoy it! I hate seeing that broad brush painting generalizations... "most."  Orgasms do not wear me out... orgasms, if anything, perk me up like a cup of coffee does!  Holy mackeral... maybe the key is just in finding someone who loves what they do enough to savor every moment without trying to see a dozen clients every day... 'cuz guess what, if you see a dozen clients every day, I don't care if you orgasm or not, you're gonna be worn out! (SHOCK!) I'll let crotchless run her body like a revolving door, meanwhile I'll savor my time with my clients and ensure that they have just as much fun as I do.

Riker, FWIW, I think it's great that you are the way you are... jeeze, I cannot imagine any woman who wouldn't!  I can't believe some of the responses you've gotten. But I will say that I and MANY ladies do very much appreciate those gentlemen who take pleasure in giving pleasure as much as receiving.

JEEEEEEEZE

Hugs*
Nicole

But have you ever heard of loving your job????

Of course it's business, and of course I expect to get paid... just like anyone who is selling any skill expects to get paid for their work. I am GOOD at what I do, and I think my rates are pretty generous for the quality of experience I give.

Frankly I feel sorry for ladies who are enduring this job vs. enjoying it... I really REALLY cannot even imagine what it must be like to go thru this day in and day out, hating every moment. I've never been good at sticking with any job I didn't enjoy.  

I do not have a problem with whatever a client needs from me, as long as he is respectful of my time. I do not see seven clients a day... JESUS I cannot even imagine! Four is the most I've ever seen in a day and I was damn near dead afterwards... and I do not need an alias to say so!  Yeah I can absolutely see how if you are seeing 7 or more clients per day, you'd get jaded REALLY REALLY fast.  

I'm no prima donna btw... I do fake o's sometimes... I don't fake enjoying it, because I almost always do, and don't need to fake enjoying it. Sometimes the O thing just ain't happening thru no one's fault, but believe me when I say I can have just as much fun without it.

Really tho girl, if you hate your job so much... WHY DO IT???? Surely there are other jobs that wouldn't make you feel so angry and jaded about yourself and life???? Not as much money, of course... but is the money worth it if you hate your life????

Hugs*
Nicole

Riker, we are not all like that... just remember there are exceptions to every rule. Come to DC, I'll let you make me have as many orgasms as ya want, honey... I have one gentlemen client who comes and pays my full rate to do nothing but give me oral for the entire time... and somehow or another I never do manage to get him out in exactly one hour. LOL I get distracted from checking the time, what can i say????

Hugssssssss*
Nicole

There are ways to vary the stimulation and let that lil' guy rest a bit that still feel incredible and keep you going... girl there is nothing like having a solid hour of one endless orgasm that just kinda keeps on going and going and going...

Hugs*
Nicole

as I slip too easily these days into gloom.  Missed your humor, tho' my co-workers think I'm quite a fun guy.  (Or Fungi, depending.)

A good week in the Ruhr Valley will do me wonders, and I'll be there July 15th.

I hereby swear and aver to Lighten Up.

Reammit....Hi Nicole I knew you would respond- Remember AC NJ morning breakfast

To bad we couldn't make it to the boardwalk.



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