Please allow me to offer this scenario:
A provider you have seen a few times in the past is visiting, with her last day in town tomorrow. Her consulting fee is $500. You find out the night before and send this message: "Hi, Susie: I just noticed you are in town and are leaving tomorrow afternoon. I had a great time last month and I would love to see you before you leave. I'm a little short this month, though, and can only afford $$$. I know you are usually pretty booked up, but if you can squeeze me in at that rate before you fly out, it would really make my day. If not, I totally understand, and I'll be sure to save up for the next time you get to town. If we don't get together, have a great trip home." My question: Would you as a provider feel offended that this offer was made, or would you consider an unexpected $300 going away fee as an unexpected bonus? HandsTroll post, or are you serious?
I'd say you just insulted her in a major way, and can expect to be on her DNS list.
Haggling over a one hour fee is really cheap.
Yeah... if anything I'd offer her *more* than the going rate in return for the trouble of possibly disrupting her departure plans...
Of course I would be offended, BUT, that is a somewhat polite follow-up, so I wouldn't get bent about it.
I wouldn't see you, but as long as you NEVER asked that again, I probably wouldn't shut you out from future appointments.
Never, ever, ever, ever even bring up the subject, let alone try to renegotiate it.
If I were the provider I wouldn't feel insulted. First off this is a public service profession if you are so thin-skinned and easily offended at the slightest maybe you're in the wrong line of work. Unless she just started this business yesterday she should have heard it all by now. BFD!
Again if I were the provider it would play out in two different ways. If I have had more than enough business to satisfy myself already I would politely decline your offer. OTH if my trip has been less than stellar I would not mind some unexpected extra income. In this case I would be rather well rested anyway so why not?
It's sad to see so many naive and timid guys with no balls think every pussy is God's gift to man and are so deathly afraid of offending the gals as if they are deities. Men up already!
So says a guy who can only afford street whores! You have been here for years and have never bought a VIP or seen a TER girl.
Tell the class why you hang around a group you don't belong in?
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Why hanging around? just so to annoy and piss off overpaying lapdog fools.
You are like a kid visiting a candy store where you can't afford the finer candies. Rather than stay on your side of the fence with the low-income types you come in here with your tongue hanging out.
You try to trash the girls you can't afford. "They all have "GPS." Then you trash the guys who see them. "They are all lapdogs." You are obviously green with envy. Rather than worry about the price of everything some of us just make more money. You don't have anything now and you never will.
The real fools and lapdogs are guys like you who are addicted to a hobby they can't afford. It's you who are constantly annoyed and pissed since you can't rise above your street trash existence. Sad.
He will be searching Backpage for 200/ girls because now even the 300/ girls won't be replying to his emails.
First, I suspect that most ladies do not care whether or not you are wealthy or what you do for a living. In fact, a few ladies have told me that some wealthy guys don't tip as well as blue collar guys and/or often times do not make great clients. Just be yourself and don't try to be something that you are not. Everyone respects a person who works hard and saves money for something that they value. That said, as others have suggested it would be a very, very bad idea to ask for a rate reduction --- especially for an hour date. Second, the closest thing that I have ever had to your situation is when I saw a lady at the start of her tour, she rocked my world, and for the next few days I couldn't get her out of my head. I tried to schedule with her for the day that she was supposed to fly out, but she didn't have any availability. Because I wanted to see her again, I sent her a genuine, well thought out note asking her to consider staying another day --- if she didn't have any commitments --- so that I could schedule a 4 hour appointment with her (long enough to potentially make it worthwhile for her to stay another day). In short, you are going the wrong direction.
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that you KNOW what you can afford, and its not her $500 rate, so why would you even want to embarrass yourself that way? You're what sales types call a tire-kicker. You walk brazenly into the Rolls Royce showroom and waste everyone's time when you already know its out of your league. Once you're branded a time-waster by providers, you will spend the rest of your hobby days at home with a bottle of lotion.
"Tire kicker" ??? Now i'm offended....lol
I'm just saying what it means in a sales context. You may have chosen that name for an entirely different reason. . . . or not. Only you know. Lol
It's not something I would do, but at first I didn't have a problem with it, till you tried to be cute and blurb this shit..................."and I'll be sure to save up for the next time you get to town"....WTF does that mean? It just comes off like you're an ass.
But that's just moi....
Yes, you are not asking for a discount, you are asking her to pay you $200 because you are too busy/lazy/narcissistic/disorganized/thoughtless to pay attention to her schedule and budget accordingly.
Actually, you may be asking her to PAY even more, as she may need to change her flight (that's a change fee plus the fare differential), and possibly another hotel night (if the room is even available). Your so-called thoughtful request to "make your day" may end up costing her:
$200 - your cash back bonus for being an insensitive ass
$150 - airline change fee
$250 - additional air fare for the new flight
$185 - extra hotel night
For a total of $785 or more.
So no, friend, you are indeed asking to royally fuck her. But not in a good way. Fortunately, your handle shows you are already prepared to "HandsSolo" away the night without the company of a wonderful provider.
Burger King!"
As a touring lady, I get repeat clients reaching out to me while I'm in their city to ask if I have any availability. Because I offer an "Advance Booking Discount" these clients occasionally ask if they can still have that rate even though it clearly doesn't apply.
I'm not offended by this, but I do roll my eyes and sigh in exasperation.
Why?
Because if I had so few booking that I'm willing to offer a discount, I'd ADVERTISE that.
If I'm not putting a discount out there for all, that means my "dance card" is looking just fine and I do not NEED to see anyone for less than retail. LOL. 
And now a pet peeve: I hate it when people write to me asking me to "squeeze" them in. That statement assumes/implies the lady packs her schedule with as many clients as she can coordinate within her working hours, leaving little time in between.
And you know what? Most independent ladies (yes, even touring ladies!) I know simply don't do that.
I have a limit as to how many people I will see in a given day and since I'm usually available for 12 hours per day, that often leaves me with quite a bit of free time where I could easily schedule a couple more if that's what I wanted. No "squeezing" or juggling necessary.
(OK, I admit I'm totally ranting now but oh well lol)
So it really chaps my ass when someone I turn down due to already being fully booked then remarks on how "popular" and "busy" I must be. Because, from talking to many hobbyists, I've learned that A LOT of you do assume that if she's fully booked that means she is one of the dreaded "HIGH VOLUME" ladies. So yeah, I know what your little comments mean.
Given all that, when you ask a provider who's already booked to her personal maximum to "squeeze" you in what you are doing is asking her to push herself outside of her comfort zone FOR YOU. You are asking her to do something (you!) which might then leave her feeling burned out at the end of the day. And if you are a regular, she might feel obligated to accommodate your request, just to be nice. To keep your business. Becuase doing that is good customer service. But this comes at a cost to her.
So, if anything, you should be offering to pay her MORE.... not less.
So that's a no on the quick Blo and Go?
Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts on this topic. BTW, I have never made an offer like this. To those who want to make this personal, perhaps I should have made this clear in my post.
I suspected that I would get the variety of responses that I received. As a purely economic question, the answer seems obvious. If there is no additional monitary cost involved, why wouldn't the provider choose to take home an additional $300? If the customer is a known quantity, safe and clean, there is time available, the hotel room is paid for, the flight is paid for, and all other things being equal, take the offer.
It is similar to the "unsold hotel room" question. If it sits empty, it adds nothing to the bottom line. Better to accept a discounted offer than to see it go unsold.
The responses reflect all kinds of non-monitary issues of personal self-worth, distain for low ball offers, insults to the ladies, etc. Given the nature of our hobby, I am not surprised. After 20 years enjoying many great relationships myself, I know that pure economics plays a small part.
Cheers!
Hands
Your logic in using the hotel room example sounds good but is flawed. In a service business, the offering of a discount rate can start a difficult precedent that a lot of mongers will have in their consciousness the next time the lady comes around.
I come across this in my business. I give a discounted rate and some of my clients start whining when they don't get it next time. Of course, it's their prerogative to ask about it, but it changes the expectations and relationship.
For a p4p lady to give you a lower rate , in her view, could give you that expectation for the discount the next time. Then , you could start to use this method regularly. It just can create an uncomfortable situation in a relationship based in being given comfort for a fee.
Yes, some mongers and SW can pull this off without discomfort. But, there are a large number of mongers who would try to milk it . And I'm sure a large number of ladies who just don't want the drama.
Just another possibility.
I am not a hotel room: a space that needs to be filled. Please do not equate human beings to inanimate objects. Thank you! 
So if that is the case, even if she has time available, SHE IS FULLY BOOKED.
Providers who've been around awhile have learned that taking "just one more" even at full retail is simply not worth it.
Now, if she were not fully booked but had the time? Well, again, you were speaking of a popular lady. She's likely already made her $$$$ goal for that trip and has no need to lower her rate just to take home every single dollar she can.
Now, please excuse me for being vulgar: some (perhaps many) simply will not fuck for less than their standard fare. They know they can get it, regularly DO get it, and will not budge on that. To do so might make her feel as though you're taking advantage of her, or even cheapened.
This is a very personal "service" and there's a lot more to it than maximizing our ROI.
Always remember: we're not just giving haircuts here!
You should have learned not to ask these type of questions. If you have many great relationships, emulate those. I highly doubt they were built on 40% discounts and 'fitting you in.'
I did told you to ignore the naysayers and the kowtowers. At the end of the day we're the ones who still have the cash to indulge on more than just pussies.
Trust me on this rich and sophisticated people don't get that way by foolishly overpaying for things. They get the maximum out of their money's worth by spending WISELY and taking advantages of situation.
What's the worse that can happen? somebody says "no" to your offer that's it. No skin off our noses right?
A provider's flight leaves at 1 pm. She needs to be to the airport at 11 am and check out time is noon. Does she take a 9 am appointment which she has to get up 7 am for at a 40% discount when she's already made her goal or more? Or does she sleep in because $300 Isn't shit when you've made $xxxx and she wants to get good sleep before flying home or to another touring destination? As I've heard a lot of ladies say, not all money is "good money".
Let me offer an alternate message:
"Hi, Susie: I just noticed you are in town and are leaving tomorrow afternoon. I had a great time last month and I would love to see you before you leave. I'm a little short this month, otherwise I'd have given you a call. Next time you're planning a trip to my city let me know ahead of time, and I'll be sure to save up. Have a great trip home."
There's a VERY small chance she'll read between the lines and offer a discount for a quickie.
Here's the thing, I've never been a last minute request kinda girl. Some ladies can accommodate that(fantastic for them) ☺ and back in the day, it was the norm for me... but, in MY experience, even the slightest discount or anything of that nature is upon me. Meaning, I should be the one to offer such incentives just simply because I liked fucking the gentleman, he wasn't crazy or a cheap ass thinking my ass is up for a bargain.
I think, it's just not good chemistry to even go there.
Find someone in your price range and have fun or save up to see her.
XOXO
TL
Yep, sure does! What a PITA!
XOXO
TL
