So I've been doing some research on TER related to updating the reviews / review categories and was wondering if maybe I was wasting my time?

If I put in the research and give some suggestions to better enhance review categories, organization, and numerical score accuracy, is that worth doing or will I basically be ignored by TER brass?

I think the review / provider bio pages could be better, but I don't want to waste a ton of time either (although work is slow right now, which is why I'm offering)

...they do read this board and from time to time they have implemented things suggested here. They do sometimes mention ideas being used in upgraded versions of TER.

...well as free time permits, I'm just gonna go for it. Maybe it will help everyone out and I'll post progress as I go in this forum.

Thanks xyz.

Please give us your suggestions.  We do look at suggestions on the boards and via feedback.  

As a matter of fact, we have updated the current site with some suggestions from the board and feedbacks, and, without going into specifics, we can say there are more changes in the future.

swimtrekr - we are working on rearranging the current Self-Help Center in the current version

We did last year, add the Self-Help Center under 'My Quick Links' on the 'My TER' tab, so people didn't have to find 'life preserver'. But, that only helps if people go to 'My TER'.   So, we are looking at a few other options for the current version.

(Please don't blame Mr.Fisher for all those changes you didn't like

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A few I've been thinking about?

1. Separate the Performance score into two categories: Services Offered / Performed score and a subjective Performance score for the individual review. The Review FAQ says to save 8/9/10 scores for services performed above and beyond normal, but just because a provider gave me good DFK, doesn't mean that the session deserves an 8/9/10 score. What if the services offered were good (ie: full GFE, deserving of a high rating) but her attitude was bad (not much conversation, rushed session, etc)? It would be nice to have a differentiation.

2. I've heard different opinions on this, but do the details on the provider pages take into account newer reviews, does the provider fill in the information herself, or is all the information based on old reviews? This question can be applied to contact info, personal details (height, breasts, etc), but also to services performed and rates as well. What if her menu changes or has changed between reviews or over time? How is that reflected on the provider page?

3. And as far as services performed goes, maybe it would be more informational to provide a percentage basis to all services offered? (so say Kissing - with Tongue was offered 9 out of 10 times, it would show 90% based on the reviews submitted).  

3b. Or if that's too much work, can it be sorted by review length / cost? I know a lot of providers don't always offer the full menu to shorter visits (30-60 min) vs (2 to 4 hours).

I'll add more if I think of any. And maybe these would take way too much investment as far as cost / programming time to implement. If so, that's understandable, but I guess I desire easier ways to get information than reading every individual review for details (especially when the reviews vary so widely on detail, quality, etc).

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Also, I get that there's an ad board, but it'd be really nice if their bio pages could be easily linked to any ads that are posted by the provider (for any reason, but especially for specials or visiting area dates).

New York is a huge state with a large population and several distinct regions that are nowhere near each other.  When searching for providers, I'd love to be able to search Long Island in 'city' as opposed to NYC, or pehaps some guys want to search Westchester, or Catskills, or Vermont border perhaps.  I don't know except that Long Island is bigger and more populated if not as geographically isolated that the entire nation of Ireland and we are stuck as 'New York City', when we are not, in fact in NYC.  also, sorting by area code doesn't help because people tour, people have cell phones they bought in other areas, etc...

My suggestion is to expand the list of cities to include regions that may be outside cities.

Most of what he is asking for is already here in some form or covered under another policy. In addition, posting reviews is sufficiently laborious as it is.

Here's an idea, since work is slow, start your own review site.  Most veteran reviews know to pay more attention. To the actual written part of the reviews and pay scant attention to the numbers and even the profile

Yes, I'm a new user but I do have VIP status. And you're right! This isn't stock market analysis! But you know what it is? It's me 'investing' my hard-earned money in a hobby that is not cheap but yes can be (and is!) fun and exciting. But I also don't have thousands of dollars (or the free time) lying around to sample every provider in my area, so instead I have chosen to strategically find value in the type of women I want to spend time with. (And let's be honest, you say dwell on the experience, but you and I both know a lot of the women are in it for the money/business aspect, so why should it be different from the client side?).

My intention isn't to dehumanize anyone by boiling it all down to hard numbers, I just think the review/provider bio pages can be more accurate compared to the written reviews. This would serve to benefit both parties: for the providers who are great and offer consistently great service, it would only serve to further cement their quality; and for discerning clients like myself, it would make the selection process easier and assure that we're getting the most bang for our buck, so to speak.

IMO, writing reviews are easy and fun and allow for a lot of creativity. You know what isn't easy and fun and creative? Reading time-consuming and monotonous reviews that sound exactly the same all the time. If I wanted to read erotic fanfiction, TER is not the place I would go. Yes, this is about experience, but I don't need to be reading about every other dude's amazing sexual experiences. Unlike some people, I don't get off on third party voyeurism.  

Don't get the wrong impression, I think TER is great, otherwise I wouldn't have paid the money for VIP. It does a lot of things very well, but there are also a lot of things it could be doing better. I may be new, and yes I'm still learning a bit, but there is a lot of room for improvement... Have my suggestions been brought up before? Possibly, and if so, I apologize, but be realistic. I'm not going to spend a year of my life reading old forum posts. I was just trying to be helpful.

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There's a difference between eliminating some uncertainty and ALL uncertainty. What I was suggesting was updating both the review form and the bio pages. This would serve to: increase accuracy and enhance information availability and save time. I didn't suggest to get rid of all reviews or to eliminate all possibilities. My ideas could be accomplished with a minimal investment by an professional programmer, without sacrificing quality, security, or anonymity.

It's funny you bring up adventure and mystery, because from my point of view, reading endless reviews from other clients totally sucks the adventure out of things. I want to experience my own phenomenal moments, yet right now all the reviews give me are OTHER peoples experiences. Has it ever occurred to you that reading reviews encourages non-participation? Is it possible you've lost business because of some poor or boring reviews?

I want a thorough yet general overview of a provider, that I can trust is accurate and up to date. And currently, the TER review pages don't offer that, at least not as well as they could.

Also, maybe if would be more helpful  to link to some specific forum posts next time you get involved in a post. I've read through all the self-help stuff as well as multiple subject searches, and still haven't found answers to my questions.

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There is no perfect system and more importantly the data will not be accurate the more specific the selections.  Ya gotta do some "hunting" in TER search and your list will never be complete nor accurate.   I've used combination of area code and location to find providers in many small city locations.

"Has it ever occurred to you that reading reviews encourages non-participation?" What??

Please come back in 6 months. In the meantime, here's something to keep you busy.

Where does the dark go when you turn on a light?  
Why is dyslexia so difficult to spell?
If one con-joined twin attempts to commit suicide is it a hostage situation?
How long is a string?

I'd go ahead and explain my point, since you missed it, but your pathetic attempts at insulting my intelligence only prove that I'd be wasting my time with someone who has such incredible delusions of competence.

Your ideas are stupid and or redundant. You are making suggestions on how TER can function better when you don't even understand how the present functions work. It's like you are student walking into a classroom for the first day trying to tell the professor how to teach.  

By the way, it looks like everyone else on the thread agrees with me. How about if you sit down and actually read the replies, say a dozen times or so.  

Here's another gray matter disintagrator for you………..
 
“To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge. ”

(Confucius)
 

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My god, was that really so difficult? Maybe you should add some fucking Miralax to your diet, ASAP.

I know EXACTLY how the present functions work. I've spent months lurking around TER, reading posts and pages, before I paid for VIP status a few months ago.  

Maybe you believe my suggestions are stupid and/or redundant. That's fine! I don't care! But don't come on here and tell me that I'm an idiot and the solution is to lurk more and then "maybe you'll figure it out." Remember in primary school (maybe you skipped that? IDK) they teach about osmosis and how that process works for cells, but holding a book to your head doesn't send the words to your brain? SURPRISE: IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

Originally I thought this place was helpful, fun, interesting, and generous to newbies with new ideas. Instead I've found it's full of "members only" asshats like you who perpetuate mediocrity instead of making it better.

And seriously with the fucking demeaning questions and quotes?  You're a hypocrite and here are three examples to prove it to you (these are from your own posts from within the past year+):
1. Enhancing reviews so the scores are more meaningful. (that's what I was suggesting)
2. Most hobbyists don't even use old reviews in their decision making (implying reading through old reviews is a waste of time, hence the need for a better "main/bio" page for the providers).  
3. You also agreed that Performance ratings shouldn't be based on range of services (implying the current scoring system is imperfect).

Troll.

1. Enhancing reviews will not make the scores more meaningful. Honesty and objectivity will.
2. Reviews that are a year old or more have diminished value. A larger bio page with old reviews isn't going to help.
3. I have said on many occasions that the review system is flawed and for many years. When you come up with something to fix the issue, do let us know even if it is in 2015.  

You need to go back to the drawing board. Dummy.

LOL

1. Honesty and objectivity are only pieces of the puzzle. (and obviously I can't control that except on my own terms) But reviews are moderated for a reason, so why not make the process better?
2. True, but you can use a weighted formula to place emphasis on more recent review scores. Basic programming.
3. I'm not trying to come up with a new system, just enhancing what's already in place.

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the exact scoring system is most definitely a sliding scale and there is a lot of wiggle room to work with there...
I had one client in particular attempt to give me a 10 10.
at that particular time my profile happens to say that I do not offer anal.
now for whatever reason the mods denied the posting of this 1010 they said I cannot receive a 10 min before minutes because it says I do not offer anal in my profile.......#?
unfortunately at that exact time I was offering anal however I had forgotten to update my profile'
I found this whole scenario quite odd because I have gotten a 10/10 from a client on an appointment that was simply a massage with a bbj.
obviously I was a little upset because I did not understand why I could get a 10/10 for just a full body sensual massage with a BBBJ.
but now all of a sudden I was doing a full service GFE and I most certainly went above and beyond and was very personable and I do feel that I was worthy of the tendon performance me and this particular client do the specially hit it off and I do think once in a great while I deserve a 10 but it's only when I have a special connection with someone I don't think I give it time performance to every client I would say I am very deserving of my 88 average.....my average is an eighth in looks and an eight and performance I personally think this is very very awesome and I am very happy and proud of that.
on the rare occasion I have gotten a 10 in performance I do feel that I was deserving of it because it was very special circumstances where I was able to give a much better performance because of the comfortability level....
I am definitely not the best actress and I cannot give a 10 performance to every customer because sometimes it is a little bit awkward and I'm not able to act 110 percent gung ho when I'm not fully comfortable!
and truth be told I am NOT fully comfortable with every single man who walks in the door!
that's not to say that I cannot give him an 8 in performance!
and sometimes it's been even worse but that is few and far between and its when I felt I was either confronted with someone who had very very poor hygiene in which I refuse to do certain services but they may not have understood why so in turn I got a poor performance score nevertheless'
the scoring system is not what it seems and it is not the same rules for everyone
there has been many a time where a woman was denied a certain score for no apparent reason or because she just doesn't offer enough services'
and then on the other hand there are times when a woman is allowed to get a 10/10 to pass through when she didn't even barely perform half of the services but the man for whatever reason felt she was just amazing and wanted to give her that 1010 happened to let it go through that one particular time
you have to sort of look at all of the reviews as a whole and see what the average out to be in sort of just read about how the ladies personality is
I am what Mr Fisher called a natural'
which means that I do a good job but only with the clients I am truly clicking in hitting it off with'''
I am NOT able to give the same outstanding performance with everyone who walks in the door and I am okay with that in the clients are okay with that'
then there are people like caramel dime who is the top in the world
and Chloe Carter and Holly of Miami just to name a few in the top hundred these women are masters of doing the same performance every time and they get 10 10 year in and year out page after page''''
so you have to kind of look at it as a whole and look at all of the reviews an average it out and kind of take a look at that persons style.are extremely extremely every single appointment is going to be the same.
and then there are some people who switch up their menu quite often and things are constantly changing with their menu and their style.....the men do take the attitude into consideration when they are scoring although it does say it is simply a score on services offered definitely read the reviews and definitely look at the performance car that matches the review and when they tell about a woman being boring or not being good attitude they definitely give a very low score for that.......
and again that's where you'd have to read the entire review to see that
Two. anyone can update and other person's profile.I once continuously had someone updating mine to say athletic.and then they constantly we're linking my profile to some ads of this other escorts on Backpage name angel that was about 18 years old and ninety pounds and looks nothing like me at all. her ad was extremely frightening as was the appearance of the girls and as well as the atmosphere in the back of her photos so buy them doing this it was an attempt to kind of sabotage or just be mean to me.so I would often go and see it was up there and ask for it to be removed...anytime I gain or lose weight I go on there and I will update my bra size as my bra size changes quite often.
if I gained 10 pounds I am a 36c if I lose 10 pounds I'm a 34 b.....
my service is changed from different times of the year I do not do anal appointments day in and day out around I give myself quite long stretches of a break from the more hardcore sessions.
I will do short periods of time where I will lower the rate and I will be wanting to get a lot of calls then I will raise the rates and stick to doing more massage as my main form of income and very few and far between of the whole enchilada appointments and I will only do them at a very high rate.
for those of us that this is a full time career and it is our sole source of income it would be impossible to date and day out always offer the same services for me I would get worn out which is why I like to have things on a revolving menu and I like to switch things up quite often so I do not get bored.
it also keeps a steady flow of different clientele coming through in for me I do this because I also like the action of meeting all the different people.....I know for me I keep my profile updated I am very nerotic about that and it is changed quite frequently.I make sure my profile has exactly the services I am offering at the exact price and even when I post on Backpage which is often I have a cut and paste which is a link to my profile on the erotic review.eyes and direct the traffic I'm eating on Backpage to my profile on the erotic review this way I told him we do not have to discuss with my dues and don'ts are and that way they know my services will be delivered as promised.I tried to turn them on to the system because many of them will sit there and be totally freaked out that you are not going to kiss and you're not going to do GFE and that you're going to rip them off because the majority of women with no reviews they have no accountability so they are free to rip people off an upsell

it is done all the time and not all the women that get 10 10 we're doing everything down the line there is to do.
and likewise someone can attempt to give you a 10 and performance and it can get denied because you are not offering a lot of services it's kind of like a little bit of anarchy its kinda like sometimes this way sometimes that way the basic idea is that people kind of get a jest for what's going on and what services are offered as far as the exact numbers the exact performance is everything being to a tee this website is a little bit of a freethinking type of thing sometimes it this way sometimes it's that way I've learned to just kind of , do exactly what you are doing when you see something that annoys you go ahead and start a thread about it get it off your chest and then you can let it go!
as thoughts into your head you let them go and everything is fluid like water nothing is permanent everything is constantly changing!!!!