Dear staff, I was wondering if you thought of adding a porn star
catagory in yor vip search. Also have you looked into a top ten list of providers based on the numerical ratings on your reviews. I know its trivial but we all like lists.
Thanks
Actually, we are considering both a porn catagory and a TER top 10, just trying to work the details out.
thanks for your support
-- Staff
process. Money is at stake. When TER was small exposure to LE was probably the main concern that providers had with reviews. Plus, of course, the hurt that any of us feels when someone says something bad about us -- especially in regard to anything as intimate as the things discussed in reviews.
Now I think good reviews are seen as being worth money and bad ones as being very bad for business. TER probably has reached the size where the information available here can affect a provider's income. From this comes the incentive for providers to write glowing self-reviews or provide incentitives to guys to write reviews that are really puff pieces. Even worse, there is an incentive to write reviews that knock down the competition. I think we are seeing evidence of both kinds of activity in LA. TER is to be credited that they are trying to maintain the integrity of the review process, but the problem can only grow worse.
In my opinion, a top 10 list would increase the incentive for false reviews of both kinds. Furthermore, I would question what a top 10 list means. I publish a report that I distribute by e-mail that contains a number of lists: Best appearance scores, Best performance scores, Most popular with TER Reviewers, etc. These lists would not be easy to combine into a single list. How do you weigh the various factors? Should there be a single list for an escorts charging $200 and escorts charging $400. How do you compute value for money? Different guys will do it differently depending in part at least on how much money they have to spend. How many reviews do you need before you trust the averages? Do you weigh the written text as well as the numerical ratings?
There is just one can of worms after another in trying to form a top 10 list, which probably isn't very useful to anybody anyway because of the YMMV factor. I have serious misgivings about a top 10 list.
A top ten list (or top 100 list, or whatever these days) hasn't done much to validate the credibility of TBD.
What I was thinking about, and I would like your comments on, is a vote where each VIP member would be given a single vote in several catagories.
Best BJ, best looks, best sex, best Overall. There would be no easy way to cheat because only vip members could vote, and then, only once per catagory. Any thoughts?
-- Staff
The simple fact that most of us can never afford to experience an Amy Taylor or Jaqueline means that they will never be equally considered (perhaps they don't want to be as well). While on the surface the proposal may seem appealing to some, even the most fortunate of us has only personally experienced a very small percentage of the total. In addition, the more exclusive a woman is, the less likely she will be to receive enough votes to win any category. Whereas, a few of the MP girls that have been talked about could win every category based on no other qualification than just exposure to a large number of members. Even Mathesar's monthly report has some qualifying assumptions regarding volume that put a slight bias toward the more frequently reviewed women.
I also don't like the fact that this approach "objectifies" the women even more than the current review process. Frankly, I cringe at the thought of a "Best BJ" title being awarded. Even "Best Looks" or "Best Sex" are just so subjective as to be, well pointless, when you get right down to it. I also think it will have a tendency to make the boards even less "provider friendly" than they have become. It's not just us guys anymore, a lot of providers monitor TER, even if fewer of them are posting these days. I personally miss their presence, and am afraid moving in this direction would not be an improvement.
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I would add weighting based on number of validated reviews. I'm a VIP member, but I paid for my membership. Should my vote count the same as one of those who have seen and reviewed a dozen providers?
Well said, Mathesar. I've been very disturbed about this, which in my mind has been happening for about the last 4 months. And it seems to me that it's getting even more pronounced as time passes. Self reviews; reviews by pimps or those involved with an agency; reviews written by guys given an extra incentive; bogus reviews to hurt the competition---I think it's all happening. It's no longer just the occasional one by some guy who gets ticked off at a provider for some reason. Those are bad enough, but the others are IMHO even worse.
I suppose some of this is unavoidable & must be attributed to "growing pains"...but I think it should be obvious by now to everyone that a great deal of caution needs to be exercised with any change whatsoever in any part of the review process; in new lists; or in new contests, etc. Great care should be taken to not throw gasoline on the fire.
You have to first recognize that there is a problem before it can be solved. I don't have an answer...I wish I did...but maybe some others who share these concerns can think of some things to suggest.
I do have a question though....Staff, are there presently any "conseqences" if someone (regardless of gender) actually gets caught pulling this kind of shit???
If they are a provider, it usually means they are removed from TER. If it is a user, the account is banner, all the reviews from that account are removed. It is VERY hard to monitor this. We stopped the new provider contest because of some of these problems.
-- Staff
I can certainly imagine that truly "getting the goods" on someone isn't an easy task. But once you know beyond any doubt, a simple banishment from the board & removal of the reviews hardly seems a punishment befitting the crime...as in it somehow should be more tahn that!! Particularly if it's the lowest of the low...a provider trying to damage the ratings of her competition.
Is there a fear of some legal liability at play here?? If not, why not at a minimum establish a board similar to (or include with) the rip-offs for gals who do this? Just simply removing her reviews (which may not have been so awfully wonderful in the first place) doesn't seem like it will hurt her sufficiently (in a financial sense--I'm not advocating anything else)...there will always be guys who search for reviews, find none, but decide to risk "taking one for the team."
I strongly support a pornstar category. I would also request
a section under the review to indicate if a girl allows
photos and/or video if that's possible.
thanks.
My reason for wanting porn star info is strictly selfish: i want to fill some hot holes with hot sausage and steaming cream. however, i'm not interested in the nici's girls and exotica-2000 approaches, since out of the $1500 you pay per hour, the girl only gets 60% anyway.
i would like to be able to personally book gals like Suzi Suzuki, Miko Lee and others without going through the rigamarole or added expense of a third party.