So he signed a two year contract with the Eagles.  Thoughts??

of the season, and things will get VERY interesting if he starts pushing out McNabb.

I doubt Vick has the talent to replace McNabb anytime soon ..He might be good for some special plays or a running position..
I hope he is successful at football again and more successful as a animal rights activist..

I know bad joke.
But just had to do it.  Philly shame on you.  This man helped do things to helpless animals.  He should have been banned for life, in my opinion.  But then again I love animals.

I know Tony Dungy is mentoring him.  Tony D is a great guy.  But what Vick did was reprehensible.

 

...it's a dog-eat-dog world out there.

I ask, why is this, if a guy kills someone he does not get such a bad reputation, but when it involve some kind of animal sports everyone has a fuss.

I'm not saying what he did is right.  It just that people get all fired up on the wrong moral issue of life and death.

Just my two cents.

{Disclaimer: I know very little beyond the basics of these two cases, so correct me if I am wrong}

Michael Vick not only intended to do what he did, he did it over a long period of time, took care to conceal his activities (showing that he clearly knew it was illegal), and was making a profit off of it (or at least allowing others to profit).  Then, when he was questioned about it, he initially denied it.

Stallworth, on the other hand, made one very bad decision (to drive while under the influence) that led to the accidental death of someone else that made a bad decision (to drink and then step out into traffic illegally).  There was no intent to commit a crime.  And I believe that he didn't try to run or deny his culpability.

One is a case of a deceptive person committing multiple crimes (for profit) and not showing any understanding that he felt at all sorry (except when it threatened his freedom and wallet).

The other is a case of a mistake and someone that took responsibility for it.

Is that close to a clear summary of the truth?

Besides, I personally like most animals more than I like most people.

The Eagles really have nothing to lose. He's only costing about a million a year for two years, don't know how much, if any, is guaranteed, and if he messes up, they cut him on the spot. Their locker room is strong enough to keep him in line, even McNabb is okay with it. If he has any skills left, he'll definitely help over the course of the season.

In Korea dogs are cooked and eaten.  The dogs are often beaten to death in Korea.  They believe that the adrenaline in the dog makes the meat taste better.  Not my thoughts, just the cold hard facts of a tibit of trivia.

Ray Lewis cops a plea for obstruction of justice in the murder of 2 men in Atlanta and receives not one small percentage the outrage that Vick is getting.  Is our society so numb from the regular reporting of murder that we've lost perspective on this?  Vick didn't break into homes and steal the family pets in his enterprise...   Kobe Bryant settles with his accuser in a rape proceeding....did he buy he way out of a felony conviction?   Stallworth takes a man's life, settles a civil case in same situation, spends 24 days in jail and gets about a years suspension.  If you get behind the wheel under the influence, you have intent for something bad to happen...if you get from point a to point b without a problem, you have failed in your intent.  That's another way to look at it.

Vick was suspended, in effect, for 2 years, lost millions, and served hard time for dogfighting.  It angers me as I'm a dog lover.  Lots of folks with issues are sorry when something bad happens...sometimes it takes something bad to happen before they turn things around.

None of us here, on a board that promotes prostitution, have a right to point fingers at anybody.

All that you have written in your post is true.

Can you tell me that what I wrote is not true?

I wasn't defending anyone or "pointing fingers" at anyone.  I believe I was stating the facts of the case that were relevant as to why Vick received a harsher sentence than Stallworth.  And, as I stated in my post, I am not privvy to all the facts of the cases (I generally don't like to read about such things and I don't watch TV) so I may have gotten some of it wrong.  If I did, please correct me.

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I watched his apology and it was allot more sincere than "Chris Browns" orchastrated crap apology and the whole world seems to forgive him.

MV has kids to feed and clothe and with any parent the kids shouldn't suffer. If he did not have kids to feed I would hate his guts and dam whether he played ball again. I have a 4lb sweety myself and would die. if some one put her in a dog fight. Getting Dizzy thinking of that vision "Whew".

my 2 ct

Actually, the Commissioner must decide by Week 6 when to reinstate him.  The Eagles expect him to be reinstated after there 3rd game, assuming no drama between now and then.

It's 1.6M for the first year, all due if he's on the roster for the season opener.  The second year is a team option for 5.2M.  Clearly the Eagles aren't committed beyond this season if things don't work out.

What remains to be seen is if his legs are still the same. Vick is not like a drop back quarterback that gets better with age, nor is he known for being a great leader that inspires his teammates. He is a great physical specimen, if he still has his speed he will fill the seats and be an asset to the team. OTOH if he has lost a step he will just be an average player and not worth the baggage he brings to the team.

FWIW Vick's biggest offense was running a gambling ring while a QB in the NFL, he is very lucky to not have been barred for life. The cruelty to animals might have been the bigger headline, but the NFL doesn't care what happens to humans much less animals. It was just a PR nightmare for them, I don't believe there was ever any real concern on the NFL's part.

Lot's of thoughts on this. I believe that in certain cases you can do wrong and really not understand just how wrong it is.  I mean if you are around a group of people that are tolerant of training dogs to kill dogs....then you may learn to accept it as well.  Until now it is a  crime that is not publicized much....it is not like he turned on the television and saw public service announcements of animal cruelty about dog fights etc.

Now he is more educated about this crime...lived in the life and is working in a community where dog fighting is very popular....as a spokesmen and an athlete maybe he can bring more awareness to the city of brotherly love.  It is a great opportunity for him to make progress in this regard.  His arrest has already made more people aware of this, and I believe the "sport" has taking a huge downturn in popularity.

As an Eagle, he can be used in a variety of ways.  I was really never sold on him as a Quarterback anyway.  He could be used in the Wildcat formation from time to time, put in the backfield as a run/pass/catch triple threat...or even as a decoy.

I could see this guy running back kicks as well, and he could probably learn the cornerback position with his speed and quickness.

He has served his sentence, and I do not see him returning to dog fighting, so the time must have fit the crime.

My god. The guy did almost 2 yrs and has had quite a wake-up call in many ways.  I love dogs, hate what he did but I also understand that you shouldn't have to pay and pay and pay and pay.  He can have a life that is productive and contributes positively to humanity.  Give him a shot!