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Little Phil 351 reads
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By taking the air off the rear spoiler and making the car lose grip, you are in effect subjecting the front car to a similar peril as with a gentle bump.  I've got far less laps in a car than you do, but anytime you cause someone to partially lose control in an attempt to pass, it's either dirty or allowed.  I fail to see the difference between the two.  I'll grant you that enforcing rules about altering aerodynamics is almost as possible as explaining women, but if we're just contemplating right and wrong, I put both situations in the same camp.  I'll let you decide which one that is.

Stupid actions have consequences....so after deliberately taking out HornyDay last night in the CWTS, he gets the rest of the weekend off!!

I'm not a NASCAR fan by any means, but wrecking someone going 180 mph is just plain dangerous not to mention incredibly stupid. Too bad Dale Sr.'s not around to whip Kyle's ass for him and put him in his place.

to drive for pretty soon.  Tony Stewart needs to have a talk with him about that anger problem and keeping his head.

He won a lot of races doing the "bump and run."  If he couldn't pass someone on sheer speed, he'd tap them to get them off the gas, then go by.  He won far too many races that way.  I'm not glad he's dead or anything but I never respected him as much as the guys who win fair and square, like Jimmy Johnson.

-- Modified on 11/7/2011 3:07:36 PM

Little Phil423 reads

I know that you know better, but Dale scared people to get them out of the way, and most times just gave them a nudge.  The Labonte bump at Bristol may have been one of the most blatant exceptions, and he caught major shit for that.  On the other hand, Kyle's move was like driving a freight train through a school crossing.  To make it worse, it was early in the race.  Dale pretty much limited his aggressive moves to the last laps of a race.  He freely admitted that he'd wreck his mother to win, but I don't think that he really would.  She was never that good a driver.  :)

I was not comparing what Busch did to Dale's tactic.  It was clearly worse and Busch wrecked his own truck,  too.  My comment about Dale was made in full awareness of what "bump and run" means.  To me, it was a chickenshit tactic and I didn't respect him for it.  I bellieve if you can't win with a clean pass, you're just not fast enough.  Plus, at these speeds, even a small  bump can spell disaster.  The really good drivers know how to get just close enough to disturb the air over the back of the leading car so it loses grip and has to move up the racetrack.  That's the way to do it.

Little Phil352 reads

By taking the air off the rear spoiler and making the car lose grip, you are in effect subjecting the front car to a similar peril as with a gentle bump.  I've got far less laps in a car than you do, but anytime you cause someone to partially lose control in an attempt to pass, it's either dirty or allowed.  I fail to see the difference between the two.  I'll grant you that enforcing rules about altering aerodynamics is almost as possible as explaining women, but if we're just contemplating right and wrong, I put both situations in the same camp.  I'll let you decide which one that is.

But to me there's a difference.  Just taking someone's air rarely results in a crash, while a tap makes the car in front much harder to control.  At those speeds a car is  moving all over the place anyway and is hard to control.  I basically don't like either tactic.  Bottom line: I never liked "The Intimidator" and never will.

W_T_F384 reads

somebody will beat his ass soon.

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