O.k. ! ICEMAN.  Got your point!  I finally sent the m.o. today.  I just wish I found out about your site 2 years ago, then I would have got the juicy stuff for free after blowing more than $$$$$$$$$$$ in Vegas.(all of them were dance and no touches and cash and dashes, and typical vegas style extra tips) But I see your point.  We all need to keep this site alive, and only way we can keep this site alive is either cold hard cash or information.  I was forgetting the fact that this was a commerical site. Thanks for the reminder.   (By the way, I loved you repartee with desiree of pdx on bbbj!)