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Slamming a Provider for Screening is just WRONG
Alexandra Kole See my TER Reviews 979 reads
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Did she post making a big deal publicly of why she declined to see you? NO! Guys shouldn't avoid her simply because she has high screening standards, that's ridiculous. You saw what she required yet still chose to move forward with the reservation request. You weren't all that put off until you didn't get the appointment you wanted.

Now, that being said, I always respond with a reason for declination of a reservation, however, some ladies choose not to for fear of receiving some poor-reaction, lunatic email response similar to your post here.

This is simple. If you're not comfortable providing information a specific entertainer asks for with regard to screening, simply move on to someone else. Bashing her for her requirements you knew about is insane.

And you say she's overly paranoid, yet you're making an inference that she may use your personal information somehow. You sound paranoid. And what for??? What do you guys think we as entertainers are going to do with your private information? Geez.

If you didn't "give a shit" you wouldn't post this tantrum...still wondering why she wouldn't see you, because I'm not.

http://lilycolettepierce.com/home   I'm not commenting on the actual face-time with Colette (if that were the case I'd write up a review).  No, I am talking about the highly unprofessional and deliberately cumbersome screening process her "assistant" Nadia makes you endure and to no avail.  The list of required information is lengthy, not quite as long as the application process for the CIA, but fairly detailed.  

I gave all that they asked for, including a copy of my driver's license, business card, email from work, website for place of business, a full online bio, 2 references, a blood sample (okay that one was a slight exaggeration) and about 10 or 20 other items.  She sends me back a curt email saying I didn't provide everything and to check the website again.  WTF?  No explanation.  So I rummage through my personal info, send even more stuff, far and beyond what would reasonably be required, and at great risk to my privacy, and what happens?  NOTHING.  Don't hear anything.  The date for my appt. has come and gone and not a word.

TWO POINTS TO NOTE: Yes, she asked for THREE references.  I provided ONLY two.  However, the stipulation was I could make up for the absence if I sent in personal info, like copy of driver's license, place of work info, etc.  Well, that didn't do anything.  Second point: they wanted my handle on TER.  This one irked me because I don't like the feeling I can't say what I want in reviews because the provider knows who I am and can, in some way, retaliate.  I tried to explain tactfully, respectfully, courteously and I got the cold shoulder.  

Well, the irony is now I just don't give a shit!  I'm upset by the whole hassle and disrespectful treatment.  Basically, they now have all my personal info and I never got an appt!  I suppose they can use it publicly or whatnot.  But again, I don't give a shit anymore!  haha!  I feel too many hobbyists are held hostage by what a provider might do with their info and so bow to them even if they treat 'em like crap.  Screw it I say!  

You see, Colette?  This is what happens when, in your overly paranoid fear of LE, you treat guys like bugs

Do you have a P411 account and if so wouldn't that have provided enough info to pass for screening

Not cool to treat a lady man, IMHO she's just protecting herself by asking, obtaining additional information, which you don't qualify with her minimum references requirements and got bitter about it, instead of humbly, sincerely convey to her that you don't have anymore info to give and asked her to make exemption and please consider your request, looks like your arrogance and ego got to you. BTW most ladies are willing to take a chance to a newbie or a guy like you with just 3 reviews as long you act like a true and honest gentleman. Chill dude..

Did she post making a big deal publicly of why she declined to see you? NO! Guys shouldn't avoid her simply because she has high screening standards, that's ridiculous. You saw what she required yet still chose to move forward with the reservation request. You weren't all that put off until you didn't get the appointment you wanted.

Now, that being said, I always respond with a reason for declination of a reservation, however, some ladies choose not to for fear of receiving some poor-reaction, lunatic email response similar to your post here.

This is simple. If you're not comfortable providing information a specific entertainer asks for with regard to screening, simply move on to someone else. Bashing her for her requirements you knew about is insane.

And you say she's overly paranoid, yet you're making an inference that she may use your personal information somehow. You sound paranoid. And what for??? What do you guys think we as entertainers are going to do with your private information? Geez.

If you didn't "give a shit" you wouldn't post this tantrum...still wondering why she wouldn't see you, because I'm not.

If you are this dramatic that you would try to hurt someone's business because you knew you weren't going to pass screening and tried anyways, what are you going to do with other minor "offenses"? A bad review for the wrong color shoes? Showing up at her house to make sure she's really sick when she cancels? Sheesh.

Don't you know not to ever give any personal information to a lady? Especially not to an agency. No lady is worth that kind of scrutiny. There are tens of thousands of ladies who will see you just with your fake name, fake handle, fake email, fake hobby phone, and two real references. Highly rated beautiful ladies. If a lady is insisting on anything more, move on. I recently had a prospective lady ask me to send her a picture of me. Well, no, we're not going there. Thank you for your time, bye bye.

Posted By: mojojo
Don't you know not to ever give any personal information to a lady? Especially not to an agency. No lady is worth that kind of scrutiny. There are tens of thousands of ladies who will see you just with your fake name, fake handle, fake email, fake hobby phone, and two real references. Highly rated beautiful ladies. If a lady is insisting on anything more, move on. I recently had a prospective lady ask me to send her a picture of me. Well, no, we're not going there. Thank you for your time, bye bye.  
amen.  

What's next? DNA Samples? Good grief, this "screening" has gotten out of hand

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If you do not like what is required for screening. Keep it moving.. The ladies have just as much to gamble as you do.  So pull your spiderman panties out from your bum and move on!

avo!

If a gentleman thinks that it's logical for a woman in our position to go by 'his word' then he hasn't thought our risks through.  
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Oh, you are polite and know the ettiquete?  Well, I read that Jeffry Dahmer was polite and well mannered, when he wasn't ..well, not.

 
Also discreet does not mean that one will not verify either work info or referrences but rather that while in the process of screening the procedure will be exucted with the utmost discretion.  

But of course these guys are smart and they know that ;)

Xxoxx

... just think and take a note, "STAY AWAY FROM bubbleshorse!"

Sometimes, it's better to just let things go, because...

love all the answers. It is getting funnier and funnier.  
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Skyfyre669 reads

but not in the same way of the other posts. I feel sorry for those who are so obsessed or fixate on particular pussy they have to jump through all kind of hoops like a well-train dog. I mean a pussy is just as good as another right? plenty of fishes in the sea no reason to have your day ruined and mood fouled for the privilege of giving somebody your hard-earned cash...

Sure I respect the rights for providers to set their limits, their boundaries and requirement standards but then again I also want to exercise my right to avoid like the plague those who are so paranoid and hard-assed about rules to the point of splitting hairs. Yes there are risks but then again there are risks in any profession: cops, firefighters, roofers, Caltran workers, convenience store clerks... and they don't make $300+ an hour! Trust me on this, judgmental and inflexible people like this are no fun to be around anyway.

I do commend you for your community service spirit for posting a warning though. As long as you post facts and not lies it's contribution to the public data base.

I understand how it feels to want to see a provider and have everything fall through for various reasons. It is frustrating. Still, it's a whole lot better than actually dating. At least I think so.

From what I can tell about Colette, she is certainly lovely and photogenic. And clearly has a look I very much like. In that I suspect I'm just like you.

But, though it is easy for me to say this as I haven't been through what you did with Colette, I try very hard to let these women have whatever they need to feel safe. Colette won't be the first - or probably even the last - provider I've had to walk away from because something early on in the process just didn't work out. If that is what happens to me, too.  

So, all I can say is peace and best of luck to you. And I'm sorry you had to go through that experience and end up frustrated.

The same thing happened to me. After I emailed her my three references, my TER handle and I am whitelisted, still no word from her or her assistance Nadia. I talked to my references to see if I was cleared, they all said "I cleared you". At this point, I really don't care if she responds or not.

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My goodness what a silly stir! If you want to vent, by all means, let it out. Frustration certainly gets the best of all of us sometimes. However, deliberately going out of your way to slander someone's professional reputation is one step further than you needed to take it. I was completely unaware of this entire thread until very recently when a friend brought it to my attention. I will say, aside from the slight amusement I got from reading your lengthy whine, I will walk away from this with a larger understanding of how incredibly sensitive some individuals are. I'm sorry your feelings got hurt, my dear. However, please consider that my time is very valuable to me and for this reason I choose to spend it with kind, charming, respectful gentlemen. At some point in your correspondence with my assistant she felt it was either in my best interest or would be my preference not to continue with making the reservation. I do apologize that you were left in the unknown and for that I beg your pardon. There are tons of charming and beautiful ladies in the Bay Area that I'm sure would love to spend time with you, maybe not so many after this public display of embarrassment, but I'm sure there are. Life is a roller coaster and is always moving forward. Who cares about the little bumps in the road? Are you going to tell the world not to buy a Mercedes because you got a flat tire? Just keep moving, Darling, the sun will keep shining :)

Hi Lily,  

I actually appreciated your response.  I did not read most of the others, as simply judging by their titles I knew they were full of vitriol and hate.  

My true point is that I think your screening system may be in need of some improvements.  I followed everything to the letter, yet was turned down.  I answered questions in a thorough and professional manner, yet was given the cold shoulder.  I was courteous in my correspondence, unflagging in presenting everything required, yet was ignored for no discernible reason.  So I would greatly appreciate it if you would send me a PM and tell me how exactly I sent up a "red flag."  Believe it or not, I pride myself in being the sort of "kind, charming, respectful gentleman" you mentioned. Anyway, perhaps we can BOTH benefit from a constructive critique.

Thank you! :)

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