This is how they protect themselves from LE, abusive men, thieves and worse.  

There are providers that ask for PI as part of their own screening process, but you don't have to visit them, and they represent a small minority as far as I know.

Going back to the way it used to be is a scary thought. Yes, it seemed like a more jovial time, nice conversations between hobbyists' and providers' w/out being accused of marketing or being shill. In some respects a simpler time. However; it was a time of no references and a gal not having any sense of who was coming over to their space. It was a dangerous time really. While the gals interacted lovingly towards one another on the other board in the early days, there was little interaction regarding references.  

When references started there were many gals (and men) opposed to this. I remember this very clearly when a gal would slam the phone down on me because she felt "her" client was going elsewhere. It was difficult for references to become mainstream. But oh so much safer. Not foolproof, but safer.  

So going back to a time before references is not a place I want to go back to. If going back to a time when the boards were fun, that's fine and great. I would welcome that and have missed that aspect or a very long time. Just recently I was "scolded" by a screener for another gal. I was "educated" on how to ask for references, etc. This behavior would never have been around in the "golden age". My fear is when the masses come here (and I imagine a good amount will when they get their sea legs back) I fear it will turn in another "other board" situation.

Jamie

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-L66

BTW, is this where the cool kids are hanging out these days?

I agree 100%. The competition among providers particularly FBSM providers was fierce. Despicable lapdogs would take advantage of the situation to get their "pats on the head" particularly from "long in the tooth" providers who had a harder time competing with the newcomers.  
While painful for some I'm sure, I think it's actually a good thing that other site got shut down.
This site seems more serious about the business at hand and less about trying to win popularity contests.  

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Not All Of Us Do References....

And, there are reasons other than jealousy/competition that one might steer clear of the referencing process.  Just my take on things...

if people would stop doing unsafe sex practices.  If there wasn't any trafficking and underage trafficking and pimps involved, there would not be as many problems.  And if there was no efforts by the guys to coerce girls into doing stuff they are uncomfortable with under the threat of a bad review or no money, they probably would still be around.  When you screw over too many people, abuse women and force underage women or even adult women into prostitution, this is the end result.  I call it karma.  

I've met some good guys off of there, but I'm independent.  I can say no to some pushy, controlling, mysogynistic asshole.  Many girls are in situations where they can't.  Too many of those people were taking advantage of them.

Maddie was not so lucky.

he contact information for the gal I might use for a reference is stored on a site that neither of us can access.

I never stopped giving and receiving references. At this point my risk taking level is way, way down there. I am in full support of other ladies that choose to continue this route. I am also guessing that request for work references will start rising.