I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??

Although the details you are providing are slightly different (but not inconsistent) than the details I received.

I could not believe my eyes.

What's the likelihood they are encountering some type of DDOS attack (seem to be common these days) and the perp is blowing smoke up your backsides?

Yes, I also received this in my email box.

....at least that is what I am certain of. It is from someone who invites the rest of us to reply to the email in order to incriminate us if we actually replies or show up to court as suggested in that same email. The language is not even the same as what Frog would use in all his emails to all of us providers...

Has this been in the media yet?  
 
This was a board I enjoyed for trips to SD for FBSM - all consenting adults, yet another board admin arrested.  
 
Do not know full details,  LE didn't take over the board but the owner shut it down to protect members. There is a long history of San Diego arresting many massage owners, all related to consenting adults and the safety the massage parlors provided.  
 
"xxxx" (can't name here) is a community of escorts, hobbyists and service providers. Find escort reviews, site reviews, discussion boards, live chat and guides.  As the administrator says, "I hope this has not caused any problems for anyone and I hope you can find another safe place to post."  

I also believe that someone other than admin wrote the email.  In fact, I got another this morning with a correction to the email address to use if interested in helping.  Either way, what a shame.

Such a good community, lovely people, helpful info.  It will be sorely missed.  Awful for it to end based on one bad apple.  My thoughts go out to Frog.  I hope he has good representation.

I echo everyone else's comments here. Definitely felt like a community.  It will be missed.

Looks like it's been shut down and the owner is in some trouble.  Stay safe everyone

...and yeah, there's something fishy about it. I can believe that the site admin was arrested because a former member ratted him out, but the circumstances around the website closure and the emails themselves seem very odd.

So LE potentially have everyone's email address and past emails on the site, can anything happen to the members?  Subpoenas?  Show up at your door?

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Things LE doesn't have on me:
1. I never met anyone in person.
2. I never gave my real name or address. (Always paid with money order.)

even though I hobby in SD, I don't live in that jurisdiction.  Also, TER is only site I'm on.

but if I did I certainly wouldn't respond.

I'd like to think (hope?) law enforcement doesn't have the resources to engage in a citywide fishing expedition with an extremely difficult burden of proof.  Unless I'm incorrect, I don't believe any of the massage parlor busts ever filtered down to customers or even the providers who worked there, just the site operators.

In situations like this you would have to think logically. There is nothing LE can do without you actually admitting to things when they ask.  

At least here in Phoenix, I see many reviews quoted in probably cause statements for Grand Jury indictments i.e. for agencies and massage places.  While virtually impossible to introduce as evidence at a trial they are used to get plea deals and 90%+ cases settle with pleas vs risk of trial and potentially decades in prison.   The head of a tantric place was given "Donald Advisement" by the judge of up to 50 years in prison if she didn't take a plea.  All 37 indicted were older consenting adults.  All except the leader over 5 years since raid took plea deals and leader who went to trial was convicted and is now in prison.  Even infamous Dennis Hof of NV brothel fame testified for the defense both at trial and in an evidentiary hearing about a year before trial.

Nah, a quick Google perusal just shows the same SD north county busts from a year or two back.

....I had a neighbor hiring him. He had four DU:I´s and this lawyer got him six months rehab. No jail time! Unheard of!

Hope LE won't be looking out for me when I get there

Don't accuse people of stuff without proof jessica.  It sounds like you had a personal problem with somebody and now you are publicly accusing her of something you have absolutely no proof of.  Just because somebody had a problem with frog a year ago does not mean that she had anything to do with this.

I never was comfortable with the extensive menu options.

Make sure it's not Michael Berg, who's next to worthless when it comes to criminal defense, ESPECIALLY if has anything to do with anyone caught up in Bonnie Dumanis' moral crusade of the day (which includes, of course, so-called "human trafficking"...)

Also, it's important to remember that it is perfectly legal to have sex with a provider. After all, providers have sex with their husbands, boyfriends, friends, companions, whomever, without any problems. It's only illegal to pay for it. But unless you confess, le doesn't have a case.

Me too!  At first glance my heart was going out to him, then I read it again and thought, wait, that doesn't sound like him.  Too odd.  Felt that discretion was the better part of valor and left it at that.  Still a bit shocked though.

Thank you. Beyond this situation it was very helpful.  Learned a lot about the law and its application that I didn't know.  And the prof was fun to watch.  That video then led me to a few "I don't answer questions" videos which were totally fascinating.

So this things has been in my mind the whole day, and I've come up with some thoughts and questions. Some aren't directly related to the bust but are related to that site.

I just found out that the same woman is helping vice in setting up stings in Holiday Inn in Escondido and twenty people got arrested so far. So clearly she is trying to get out of her legal problems by throwing her old clients under the bus!

4. Frog has a good heart and wanted well with his site. He wanted us to be safe. He wanted people to have fun and get to know each other. We were his "family" it felt like. He is generous and spent the earnings on food on the meet and greets plus donations to providers who needed help when they got sick or hurt. So that what he probably meant by that he did not make any money from the site. Nice guy overall.

It is very disconcerting. Part of me wants to say... no biggie it was just a site. But I feel like I just lost something. My eyes and ears certainly. But also that community. Feels like I just lost a couple hundred friends.... at once. Depressed... I guess I feel a little depressed.

I agree. I also feel sad that this had to happen to such a generous man like Frog. Vice targeted the wrong site.

These claims are nonsense.

Nknow, I completely agree with you.  The feeling of loss is huge.  Friends, fun times, great mixers, interesting people - all gone.  It's crazy, but I immediately want to create a replacement.

Blaming one person or event is probably pointless, right? In the big scheme of things we were all contributors in some fashion. When something like this "blows up" it is the result of a combination of factors. Similar to what many of us do now when a family member passes, wouldn't it be far more pleasant to recall the good times and good people we met and communed with over the years as opposed to succumbing to depression and resorting to blame? Indulging in gossip? Just a thought... Lo

Can we at least get initials of who she is?

Jessica got arrested 3 yrs ago for prostitution and stole 40,000 from a man in wheel chair...and that escort bust is put on by jealous provider. Let's remember when you changed your identity to get custody of your kids...did any one call you a undercover vice? No but your jealousy and lying shows the kind of person you are. Grow up girl , being the loser gets you nowhere . Your being a trouble maker and clearing making slander .

Michelle, you were certainly one of the good people/times I can remember thanks to that site!

First she borrowed 10k.
Second she is paying it back with interest.

Your so crazy and everyone knows it...get a life and stop with the lies and bs. I guess this is what happens when you can't keep custody of your kids . You have NO LIFE.

Well that's not the original story that was known ,but you should know if someone has borrowed $ to buy a home 2 yrs ago and now getting it back. I wish you the best in retrieving it.

Jessica has a agenda and needs a escape from what she  did ..blame the innocent...engineering is definitely not her specialty...her trailer brothel is. I have a friend with evidence.

Im going to go to one of the old haunts where we used to have our meet and greets and a have a drink or two in memory of the fun times we used to have there. Thanks Frog for making those great times and memories possible.

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I feel the same way. Perhaps we can have that arranged?

If anyone wants to know the facts here it is:

Oh boy! Even you need to borrow money?!? Times must be really tough for providers. Lol

No email for me....but checked my phone and I have some strange group text from some person saying they are from that site and they are available.  Several guys respnded in the group text with various responses.  Smells very bad....

It was a major construction project. I doubled the size of a house in Lemon Grove. Finishing work takes a lot more money than expected.

Thanks ...& yes, the community will be a miss .

Now that's a good idea! Thank you Frog! Xoxo ...

We should just start charging for whatever we can... Forget the illegal issues..."you want to have chat?... That'll be 300$"

It has been a while sine I have been on TER, but necessity is the mother of re-invention.

I know, sad doesn't even begin to cover it...  Just the loss of "Community." not to mention the ladies

It will be interesting to see where the providers turn to next to advertise.  I know many used that site exclusively.

I am going to miss the occasional north coast coastal happy hour get-togethers where we would watch the sun set

I should have saved a few numbers.  That site was so reliable for so long.  My loss

Ditto for me, though being based in a more southerly direction the central SD HHs and mixers will be sorely missed.  I also didn't think to save numbers. (aka Londonman)

I rarely hobby these days, but after many years (8yrs?!) off and on that site, i'll miss the community, information, humor, and the ladies that seem exclusive to the site.  I find myself instinctively looking for the shortcut on my browser, only to realize I deleted it.  

Very similar when the nor cal site went down last year. It left a huge hole. But alas, another site took its place and appears is florishing.

my sentiments exactly and for all of those aka's from the other site that are so easily recognizable for me; I'll never remember the new handles but your honesty in MO was the best for safe hobbying.

I was on that site for 8 years almost... I'm really going to miss the community. I'm also going to miss all the semi-retired providers that I still had phone/email information for in my PM box. Lastly I'm going to miss the hundy I spent about 3 weeks ago to renew my membership for a year.  Being able to pay cash at a happy hour for membership dues made things SO much easier.  

I wonder what evidence they seized on computers and other media?

I was one of those who DID respond to offer help other than financial. I include my normal smart ass way of communicating with him since I've known him socially through the site for over 9 years. The response I received today included his normal witty repartee along with the normal in limbo, waiting for the slow wheels of the judicial system and when a defense plan is in place I will get a heads up if I am needed.
Those who do know him should offer to help with affidavits or testimonials. I know I will

You're the second person to say that the emails were from Admin, so I guess I stand corrected.  Did he give you any sense whether any members/providers are at risk?  I know his email said everyone was safe, but just wondering on what that was based.  It sounds like his computers were seized.

Claire,
Please tell me what board. Thx.

What was it, a year or two ago that we also lost a FBSM board who's name rimed with "fist" that was also a good resource for finding safe providers.

Frog despised the other guy. And the sting targeted them together.

If the servers are in the U.S., they can get the content. If the servers are outside the U.S., they can force Frog to hand over the content.

Ewe... "A web site for negotiations"... (?) ... Now that is illegal... Had no awareness of this...

That board was close to useless, nobody missed a thing.

Maybe you had trouble reading comments from those that will miss that particular board. Sorry that you found it useless. Many obviously found it useful.