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enuf4u2676 reads

It's hard to believe that only one in 100,000 are arrested for prosttution related offenses in SD county with all of the stuff I read on the discussion board.  But if it's true, maybe we do live in the greatest city!

The statistics, as usual, are misleading.  The San Diego Sheriff's Office does not have a vice squad but everyone is quite aware that SDPD does & that it is QUITE active!  I think it was Twain who once said that there are liars, damned liars and statisticians!  This certainly wouldn't have me relaxing my concerns in San Diego.

HappyHeart10012 reads

.....let's not say anything that we might live to regret. First of all, these stats are from 2002. More importantly, we have enough examples to know that LE are doing their job here in SD and that it is important for everyone to always play it smart and safe. Suffice it to say, that statistics are just that and can usually be manipulated to prove just about anything. So let's leave the conclusions to the number crunchers.

The moral to the story - don't be a streetwalker.  Instead, call it something a little more creative - like "Dating".  :)

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

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They wear cfm heels, so they can't run as fast as street-corner dope dealers in their felony flyers.  They don't shoot when the cops flash their badges.  And if you've made your arrest quota for the week, you can shake them down for blow-jobs.  Pross details are cushy duty, and any cop will tell you the same.

Having said this, I can't maintain that prostitution is a 100% victimless crime.  It's more of a NIMBY issue.  Even people who approve of it don't want it taking place on their street.  This was how Hugh Grant got himself busted.  People in the residential area of Hollywood, which in most places begins immediately north and south of Sunset Boulevard, complained about Divine Brown and the other girls taking guys to park in front of their homes, making noise late at night (seems that the customers were often intoxicated, if you can believe it), and throwing used scumbags on the lawns.  ("Fido!  Leave that alone!")  Local merchants hate it, especially by day, because they say that prostitution attracts crime.  (This may be a post hoc fallacy, it seems to me.  When the neighborhood's coming up, you rarely see prostitution.)  So prostitution, at least in its streetwalker manifestation, is a nuisance (if often an attractive nuisance).  Citizens complain, and elected officials feel compelled to respond - as well they might.

None of the above applies to internet providers, who are bothering no one.  But the pavement princesses' lot is notoriously an unenviable one.  There is in many cases a genuine clash of political interests, a zero-sum situation, and the interest of the prostitutes virtually always trails all others.

Thanks very much, MSD.  Nettie asked for "thoughts," so I thought I should actually think about it.  Seriously, this is an issue that won't go away.  The establishment of a Boston-in-the-'70s-style Combat Zone or a domestic Reeperbahn seems not to be a viable answer, because (a) civilians find those places scary, (b) you'd never get a politician with the guts to propose a legalized red light district, and (c) whose district do we pick?

Yes, they didn't do a very good job of researching.

The sheriff doesn't normally go after prostitution in San Diego, that falls on metro. SDPD has a VERY active vice unit and they cooperate with Oceanside and National City to try and stop the streetwalkers. El Cajon and La Mesa PD are starting to ramp up their activity, La Mesa shut down all the AMP's and EL Cajon spent the last couple years impounding cars of anyone accused of soliciting.

But the county doesn't get involved unless the unincorporated areas are a problem, in other words the really small communities. The areas that fall under the sheriff would be the equivalent of streetwalkers working Thousand Oaks.

Not a very realistic representation.

Wow, now I remember why I left for Las Vegas.

Wow, that must have been ME that got busted in 2002!  Out of 458,000 people!  What a DUMMY I am!

Ooops, thanks for the correction!  You do pay attention don't you HA......  LOL

But really, I found this article to be typical of the prejudice most reports or articles surrounding this issue generally expresses. The lack of real knowledge and bias is apparent, whether it be written by the people who put it together for the purposes of obtaining funding for these so called studies, or be it the biased reporter who gives 10 more times the airtime to the Police Department, than she did to the online lady "Janet" last year on the local Fox 6 news report on Internet Prostitution.  The perspectives of this subject are so many, so twisted, and so far from the masses ever knowing the real scope of truth.  There are those that certainly don't want the truth to be told.  Especially the ones that have the power to help promote change but do not have the nerve because they are really part of the matrix.  I dare not go into the next line of thought I have on that one........

I believe the line that says "Its fun and easy" is probably tthe closest to the truth in this article...........

One of the reasons there are so many ripoffs in this area is because many of the ladies, think it is safer to avoid a VERY active LE with that little song and dance.  I am sure Bridget and Austin had that in mind while they were doing their routine here for quite awhile.  Problem is, that sort of activity can cause more dangerous situations for both parties, so sad, so sad.





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HappyHeart1794 reads

.........you are a "sweetheart" who was just trying to do something very nice to show support for our military. It is unfortunate that such a genuinely caring act would be exploited as it was. Just another reminder for everyone to "be careful out there."

Great to see you back around.  Have wondered where you have been.

Hard to believe.  I lived in Fairfax County, VA before moving here.  For the most part, both are thought to be LE restrictive.

It's generally known that you don't do business in Fairfax, not so much because of LE, but because just about anyone based there is a rip-off.  Typically, people go into DC to do business.

SD is similar in this regard, that the number of rip-offs seems rather high.  And perhaps there's a significant population that takes their business to TJ or LA.  But Fairfax really doesn't have many areas conducive to streetwalking, as it's mostly suburban, whereas SD certainly has such areas.

Don't really know what else these places have in common, other than skyrocketing real estate prices.

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