Here is a $$$/hr level provider (who visits SD once or twice a year) with an astonishingly artificial sense of self agrandizement.... I know, I saw her before her rates went out of control a few years ago, and though her haughty factor is excellent, her looks are average at best.

I would think that a high naughty factor, combined with extraordinary 'magazine cover' looks would warrant rates like these.

In fact, for these rates, you can buy a trip to eastern europe, hire more than a single lady with both of these attributes and enjoy a brief trip as well!

Stuff like this is truly perplexing, especially considering the current economic downturn evidenced by frozen or dropping provider rates.

http://www.eros-sandiego.com/files/se-lila1-victoria1.htm
http://www.victoriavonhelkine.com/

Ah, Ness...once again bitching about that which you cannot afford. Nice to see some things don't change.

There's a solution to this scenario...DON'T SEE HER, and just focus on gals you CAN afford. OY!

VVH, like any provider, is free to set her rates as she sees.  If she gets zero business, that's her choice, and I think she would know what to do if that caused a problem in her life (although, as she has had her rates for a while, I would guess it isn't).  If she gets work in other places (which, in VVH's case, includes modeling) and only needs or wants to work this on a limited basis (and therefore can set her rates much higher to insure she only sees a certain level of client), that's her option, too!

I have never seen VVH, myself, but I have talked to her quite a bit, and she is a sweetheart, totally down to earth and never haughty at all with me.  She knew I couldn't afford to see her, but always made time to write back and forth when I contacted her.  That is called class (which is the opposite of tacky, BTW). I have also known several guys who did see her (and DID review her, unlike you...IF you saw her), and they loved her and had much more glowing reviews of her appearance and performance than you do...

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=20552&page=9#Review

Average looks? My ass. Maybe the other guys just  didn't have a chip on their shoulder.

Not every provider is dependent upon this business for their entire income, so it's their prerogative what they set their rates at.  If people want to see them for that rate, and it's enough business for them, then they are managing their market well for them.  I don't resent them because I can't afford to see them...especially if they are as nice as VVH is. Sure, I would love it if VVH or some other ladies I have talked with had lower rates, but that didn't make me slam them on here, whining about something that is THEIR RIGHT.

I wonder if there is any connection between when you saw her and when she started raising her rates? In any case, you licking your chops hoping that she will have to lower her rates is GHETTO!!!...but what else would we expect from someone who enjoys the hobby as much as your reviews indicate you do? Maybe it isn't ghetto as much as misogyny.

We all are feeling the pinch one way or another.
I wanted to kick something yesterday when $40 didn't even put 10 gallons of gas in my car. ARG!

I can't help but feel some people are frustatred with the economy and reflecting it back on some providers.
I've even gotten rather offensive emails basically telling me I should offer specials.
I have had a lot of communcation with V.V. myself. I agree with Self, she is a class act with a great reputation. She's always very kind.

One factor I think gets highly overlooked by some.
**Most people with money (that kind of money) always have money.**
Therefore the current situation hasn't exactly affected then yet.

The internet has turned this into a true buisness. With that the ladies are free to charge what they wish.
I think now, as with any other time you just have to respect that fact.
Honestly, I don't think there is anyone who isn't hoping for some sort of turn around in the economy.
Thanks for a great post Mr.SD.

Hope everyone can just take a deep cleansing breath and be thankful for the things we can.

Yes, there are definately some awesome people in San Diego that I am quite honored to be associated with

I thought about posting something in regards to this earlier, but MSD, and now Jai, have already addressed it,and not only have they echoed my feelings on the topic, but did so much better than I would have.

I have always respected a ladies choice to charge whatever she feels appropriate for her time. If it's too much for me to justify, I walk away, or if it's someone who is at the top of my "must see" list, I just wait and keep saving until I can afford to see her. At no point, however, do I blame the provider for her rates.

Finally, as I normally do, I agree with Jai's last statement. With everything else going on in the world and in all of our lives, I can think of much more important and pressing issues to complain about that a provider's rates.

I am glad to see Jai and keg respond to the to poor fellow that has turned bitter. I am trying to figure a way to clear my schedule so that I can fly to San Diego for a visit with the incomparable Miss VVH.  She is such a gorgeous person in body , mind and spirit, it is hard to even concieve of a better lady to spend time with.

Untill our next time,  xxxooo

When you offer a product or service you sell it at the price you want.

If you can't handle that move to a communist country.

Tell me, are you wealthy enough to at least afford some cheese with that whine?

You guys don't get it.... I have no problem being able to pay advertised rates by any provider, but rich or poor (depending upon your reference of course) why would anyone pay twice the value?

I am only giving a warning sign to those who have good taste and are willing to spend this much on a 'magazine cover' babe rather than on a modestly attractive girl that is... well, only slightly above average and are quite abundant for significantly less.

For those that are genuinely curiously contemplating a session with her, send me a note and I will give you details and advise on who to see for these rates, or better yet, who to see for much less that are significantly better looking.

Lastly.... sure she can charge whatever she wants, but this is why we have this forum, TO WARN THOSE UNSUSPECTING!!!

The best thing about her rate & service is that if you -- the buyer -- doesn't think it is worth it... no one is forcing your hand...

and for that matter if everyone thinks she is over-priced and she wants to stay in the business -- she will lower her price...

Three words... GET OVER IT...

We have seen you diss on so many lovely chicas here for various reasons, but most of your negative posts have to do with their rates.

For someone who hasn't posted a review in four years, I am convinced that you post this stuff just to piss people off since you have nothing to add to a real discussion. The only "unsuspecting" vatos are those chollos who don't know about your past history here.

anything but good stuff about VVH from her visits here to SD. And frankly unless her pics are photo shopped, average looking is not the impression I get when I look at them.

MfSD>>>>

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If she is out of your price range...MOVE ON!  My ATF has seen Ms. VonHelkine and said she is gorgeous.  I think the world of my ATF, so tha is validation enough for me.  In times like these, the cream rises to the top

Also, why don't you go to eastern Europe......or you can go to Craig's List too!

You think like those you emulate...

Her pix are that of a

Look at VVH's reviews, knucklehead...pages and pages of 9's and 10's.  

I guess ALL of them are wrong, and you are right, huh?

Well, we certainly can tell how much you love the hobby by all of your recent reviews and the proof (your old reviews) of how great of a time you had with the ladies.

Why does someone buy a Patek Philippe, Einstein, instead of a watch that tells time, is quite abundant, and sells for significantly less?

BECAUSE THEY CAN!

Having seen VVH a number of times, I will say without hesitation that being with her is far and away the most fulfilling experience I've had, and I would rather spend an hour with her than have a dozen visits with most other women. My $$, my time and my choice. Try staying positive, and everyone (including you) will be happier.

Funny listening to all the quibles.I am sure those that are willing to pay her that extra do so with the reality that they have seen many a provider for much less and recieved just as much enjoyment or more and yet like paying that extra for some reason or other. Bmw just wrote down 868 Million for cars being returned,obviously alot of people spent way over their heads and the cars resale value plummeted. Higher priced  items do not always equate to better value.But if you want to spend it and got it, do it.If you don't then quit your crying.No one is holding a gun to your head to buy, except at the gas pump. That's just my 3 cents.BJN

Before putting my foot in my mouth like you do all too well.

I guess VVH must have had something on EVERY one of those guys who gave her looks a 9 or 10 (or at least an 8), and you are the only one with enough guts to tell the "truth".

Clueless.

Me thinks Ness doth protest too much.Perhaps he has been rated 4 / 3.

But your kind of thought emulation is the danger here.

How is your English?