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I go to planned parenthood every 6 months to get mine done and its totally free..just saying..

After adding this link to an 8-day old post below, I decided it was important enough to start a new thread.

Fee is $15 but waivable for those who say they cannot pay....
BUT seems to me anyone spending time here ought to be able
to come up with the $15.

I arrived at the Rosecrans St main location yesterday at about 3:30 pm.
They are reluctant to take people that close to closing time but they
did take me.  Since I always want a "hard copy" of my results, a return
visit is required since they will not mail them out.

Free packets of condoms and lub are available in their "candy jars".

that should have been "lube".....

time change may have had an adverse effect

I go to planned parenthood every 6 months to get mine done and its totally free..just saying..

I am baffled at the response from the working women here who think getting tested every 6 moths for stds's deserves a pat on the back & these are from providers who increase their risks by providing BBBJ's, CIM, etc…

Unbelievable.

 
GYT on a more frequent basis providers because your worth it.

While you may find it pathetic. You need to be aware of the time frame, it takes for certain things to who up in ones body. If 6mnths ago the tests were fine. # months later, the tests still may show fine.
But at the next 6mnth mark, when a disease has had time incubate. It may show as not so fine.

So stop being so judgmental of the ladies in this adult lifestyle, all the time. Be thankful and grateful that your fellow *adult lifestyle* provider, is getting tested. Because she/they KNOW they are WORTH IT!!!
Show a more positive attitude toward them. Not always berating other providers. ( which seems the norm given a lot of your recent postings).

 
Kind and supporting words & deeds, go a long way, MP.

 
 

Posted By: Madame Patricia
I am baffled at the response from the working women here who think getting tested every 6 moths for stds's deserves a pat on the back & these are from providers who increase their risks by providing BBBJ's, CIM, etc…  
   
 Unbelievable.  
   
   
 GYT on a more frequent basis providers because your worth it.

Your reviews, photos & website are not enough for me to value your opinion, or think your an asset to the community.  You do not know me.  I am all for women who value human worth.  Continue to post, but you do not have my respect.

Agency...

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I would say more, but the post would be taken down...and it may be anyway, as well as some others on this thread. But Jesus H. Christ does it need to be said.

Interesting how some responders weigh in. MP, this is a general area, not your own. I don't know you but your attack on MC was harsh. It matters naught that you don't value her opinion, others do. You're free to say what you want, however negative, and we're free to disregard it.  

Your standards are not mine. And mine not yours. So be nice.  
 

Posted By: Madame Patricia
Your reviews, photos & website are not enough for me to value your opinion, or think your an asset to the community.  You do not know me.  I am all for women who value human worth.  Continue to post, but you do not have my respect.  
   
 Agency...

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Hello Ms.  
Here are some kind words, please run to the health clinic you and your friend..  "it's free  
just sayin" we care about you.  xo  

I also use pp, since starting this because my family Dr. asked why am I here again so soon my next check up isn't until bla bla looking at her chart.  I told her I have been a  super slut lately jokingly and said I had a couple new partners this week, she laughed... After that I started using pp & and keep my reg. check ups with long time family Dr.

PP NEEDS your support "just sayin"

Please don't take offense to this, it's meant to be kind and considerate...

Posted By: MatureCompanion
You need to be aware of the time frame, it takes for certain things to who up in ones body. If 6mnths ago the tests were fine. # months later, the tests still may show fine.  
 But at the next 6mnth mark, when a disease has had time incubate. It may show as not so fine.  
I have no commentary about the negativity as I try to avoid feeding it.

I only want to focus on the safety issue about the testing. I believe testing more frequent than every 6 months would be better for someone with an active sex life with multiple partners.  While the statement that some things take a while to incubate to the point where it's detectable is true, the conclusion drawn from that is false.

If a provider gets tested on January 1st and July 1st of each year (each 6 months like clockwork), and they contract a disease in February which takes 6 months before it's detectable, it would mature in August, they would then be infectious until their next testing from August through January 1st of the next year - and not knowing exactly when they became infectious they would have SIX MONTHS of clients to email and warn without even beginning to think about the ripple through the community.  From both a human and business perspective this would NOT be good.  

I applaud anyone who tries to mitigate the risks involved with all of this and appreciate it when people take this issue seriously as I, for one, hope to never be the recipient of one of these calls or emails.

Listen it cant hurt to be careful...but some people have no regards to being cautious...safety is always my #1 concern..CARRY ON!

HMMM this from someone that calls herself the "caca queen" lmao OK!

You should be going every 30 days. And yes. PP is free which everybody loves but you SHOULD leave a donation after your testing or services to continue helping them serve more people not just take advantage of it's freeness. I prefer PP as it's totally private and anonymous. They don't mail anything if you don't want to and you can call in for results then go pick up hard copies if needed.

 
Again, if you have even ONE new partner a month you should go every 30 days. Period. No negotiation.

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Perhaps Ms P's phraseology could of been a little less blunt..
..but her message and sentiments are SPOT ON.

And perhaps being BLUNT, will motivate some to test regularly.

 Incubation periods vary, if you contact the day after testing, and dont test for another 6 months..
.... OMG...need I say more?

 
As GK so aptly follows up...every 30 days at a minimum PLEASE..

...for YOUR OWN GOOD, never mind the good of all :)

Waz

"Pathetic", may seem a little condescending, however , it is pathetic and ignorant... I do agree with this madam person.  I can hardly believe that this lauren person admitted this in public, I will keep my opinion to myself and just  thank god she did!!! Maybe she is uninformed or didn't do any research before starting this , Christ, they teach this to 3rd graders !
Now I will  have to really look at the people that the lauren woman has been with and  only goes 6 months for an exam and she appears to be high volume, and perhaps not see ppl she has done biz with, or not be a bbbjcim with clients that have been with her, or the other woman that agrees with her... And all clients she has seen are running to the health clinic ASAP ....  hmmm something to really think about.   Is there a Doctor in the house????  For some advice?  LMAO cannot confide to my doctor of my extra curriculum activities !  I could but its our family Dr. might give him a heart attack !  Mine says 3 months,  however, with each knew partner should be done asap and followed up every 3 months...  

**PP geez, if you go to PP always leave a donation, wth, this is how they afford to perform services for people who are not even in this biz and teens single moms ect... that REALLY cannot pay.... It's free, but giving back to the community is good and also good karma!  Well I am knew on here and should keep my thoughts to myself, but those two ladies Lauren and whoever the other one that agrees with her I find disturbing.

In a previous thread about STD testing the OP asked why the subject of STDs is never discussed.  Well here ya go. DRAMA

Well, actually I was asking if everyone had the Hep B vaccine and NO ONE responded in the affirmative! That is just stupid for providers not to get that vaccine.

Point two. I am annoyed by the overuse of the word "Drama" on these boards. Look up the definition. It has nothing to do with any of this or most posts on any of the boards..

My mom was dying of cancer, which I and the Dr's knew, but I could not bring myself to tell her. So I called my cousin down to talk with her about her impending doom. That's Drama.

I thought it was a good discussion, some feathers get ruffled, but they grow back. :-)

The way I see it, any test interval is better than none, and there are many providers that never get tested.

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Now I remember why I stopped posting for such a long time on this board. I definitely don't need a lesson on the word drama. I know exactly what it means. You know nothing about my personal life and struggles with family members that had cancer. Shame shame...

I wasn't aware that you needed a list of every single provider that got the hep B vaccine. So I guess since no one answered that means they didn't get a vaccine? Hmmm. I guess. I guess you can add me to your list if it's that important. If it helps, I also got a flu shot a couple days ago.  

Actually, you mentioned a few other Stds and asked people to comment on it. I was not aware that your question was specific to Hep B vaccine.  It sounded more like a general question to me.  

I'm over this mess of a thread. Y'all have fun.  

Posted By: MisterJJJ
Well, actually I was asking if everyone had the Hep B vaccine and NO ONE responded in the affirmative! That is just stupid for providers not to get that vaccine.  
   
 Point two. I am annoyed by the overuse of the word "Drama" on these boards. Look up the definition. It has nothing to do with any of this or most posts on any of the boards..  
   
 My mom was dying of cancer, which I and the Dr's knew, but I could not bring myself to tell her. So I called my cousin down to talk with her about her impending doom. That's Drama.  
   
 I thought it was a good discussion, some feathers get ruffled, but they grow back. :-)  
   
 The way I see it, any test interval is better than none, and there are many providers that never get tested.

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My post wasn't directly pointed at you specifically MissToni, but to the community at large. Sorry that I wasn't more clear.
This board is actually generally very friendly compared to others.

Posted By: MisterJJJ
Well, actually I was asking if everyone had the Hep B vaccine and NO ONE responded in the affirmative! That is just stupid for providers not to get that vaccine.  
   
 Point two. I am annoyed by the overuse of the word "Drama" on these boards. Look up the definition. It has nothing to do with any of this or most posts on any of the boards..  
   
 My mom was dying of cancer, which I and the Dr's knew, but I could not bring myself to tell her. So I called my cousin down to talk with her about her impending doom. That's Drama.  
   
 I thought it was a good discussion, some feathers get ruffled, but they grow back. :-)  
   
 The way I see it, any test interval is better than none, and there are many providers that never get tested.

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Yes I have had the Hep B vaccination. I had it years ago. I think its a good idea for everyone. Hep B is much more contagious than HIV

Sorry I hit such a nerve but to each is own ladies...have a safe and happy life..xoxoxo

wow and this post is coming from someone with ZERO reviews...I definetly know who this is lol

pathetic women have to hide behind a fake name!! hahahah

Really? Who am I?  

Posted By: diamondgrl23
wow and this post is coming from someone with ZERO reviews...I definetly know who this is lol  
   
 pathetic women have to hide behind a fake name!! hahahah

Not to the posters post.  Kudos for that.  But for the nasty attacking and oh so high and mighty posts of some others.  Since I am not part of the "in" group I will say what I think.  

The thing about std testing is even if you caught something the day after you were tested and went every day, some things wont show up til 6mos later.  They have instant tests but those arent as indepth as the test that takes longer to get results.  Or this is how it was explained to me.  I guess its kinda like being pregnant. You are pregnant but a test wont tell you are right away. Just recently I saw a tv commercial that said something like 10 days before your first missed period.  But I am digressing.    

I test often enough for me to feel comfortable and I have been in this biz along time and I havent had anything besides a bladder infection that may or may not have been "work" related.  So what ever I am doing seems to be working for me.    

And if you are being safe and using condoms and using them right, doing oral with a condom, maybe wrapping your body in plastic wrap, well with all that , you still feel the need to go get tested every other week ?  What is it that you think you could catch?  Oh yeah, add to the list of precautions...heavy screening and only seeing a person or two a month and yet you still feel the need to get tested that often?  

 
Not wanting to start drama ....but I say that is bs.
And for the men that piped in... are you seeing a different girl every month ?  And do you get tested every month ?  Thats what I thought.

 
I could see getting tested that frequently if you had a lot of accidents or dont use protection, but with careful precautions every few months is good (for me, it has been) unless you have had something break or in some way have put yourself at risk.  Ask your doctor, I am sure he/she  will tell you what is safety cautious  and what is a germaphobe , anal retentive anxiety ridden phobia  
 
Makes you wonder why someone would choose to have a job that is sooooooo risky to them.

I like your style. ;)  

Posted By: sexystephie
Not to the posters post.  Kudos for that.  But for the nasty attacking and oh so high and mighty posts of some others.  Since I am not part of the "in" group I will say what I think.    
   
 The thing about std testing is even if you caught something the day after you were tested and went every day, some things wont show up til 6mos later.  They have instant tests but those arent as indepth as the test that takes longer to get results.  Or this is how it was explained to me.  I guess its kinda like being pregnant. You are pregnant but a test wont tell you are right away. Just recently I saw a tv commercial that said something like 10 days before your first missed period.  But I am digressing.    
   
 I test often enough for me to feel comfortable and I have been in this biz along time and I havent had anything besides a bladder infection that may or may not have been "work" related.  So what ever I am doing seems to be working for me.    
   
 And if you are being safe and using condoms and using them right, doing oral with a condom, maybe wrapping your body in plastic wrap, well with all that , you still feel the need to go get tested every other week ?  What is it that you think you could catch?  Oh yeah, add to the list of precautions...heavy screening and only seeing a person or two a month and yet you still feel the need to get tested that often?    
   
   
 Not wanting to start drama ....but I say that is bs.  
 And for the men that piped in... are you seeing a different girl every month ?  And do you get tested every month ?  Thats what I thought.  
   
   
 I could see getting tested that frequently if you had a lot of accidents or dont use protection, but with careful precautions every few months is good (for me, it has been) unless you have had something break or in some way have put yourself at risk.  Ask your doctor, I am sure he/she  will tell you what is safety cautious  and what is a germaphobe , anal retentive anxiety ridden phobia  
   
 Makes you wonder why someone would choose to have a job that is sooooooo risky to them.  

In advance sorry this sounds so harsh but the post I am replying to infuriated me on many levels.  

 
If you think a doctor will say you're a germaphobe by getting STD testing every 30 days your doc is a quack!

 
People, ladies, gents:
The facts are if you have ONE new sexual partner you should be tested. Period. Planned Parenthood is a source I have used since becoming sexually active from when I was scared to buy condoms as a teenager to when I wanted to be on birth control to be safer with my high school boyfriend. So, having been going to PP for almost 10 years very regularly (especially in recent years being a FS provider) every doctor there will tell you that is it WISE to get tested if you have multiple and new partners frequently. Not you HAVE to but it's SMART to err on the side of caution and KNOW you're okay instead of figure or assume.

 
And saying that someone who goes that much must have had "a lot of accidents" is inept. Some people payed attention in sex ed and know being tested often and thoroughly is the only thing you can do other than abstain from sex.  

 
So, just coz something doesn't show up for up to 6 months means waiting 6 months? When many other illnesses, diseases and such can show up in a much shorter time or be asymptomatic? Do us ALL a favor and just go every 30 days! It takes 30 minutes of your month and it's FREE! What's your excuse other than "you aren't a germaphobe" or "you are safe with clients"? And YOU Stephie are offering BBBJ - you say "if you are being safe" but it's hypocritical because uncovered blow jobs are un-safe compared to covered ones... I am not spouting to have ladies switch to CBJs unless they wish but on one of the Celebrity Sex Rehab shows I had a wake-up call watching years ago when one of the members had an STD in their throat! Yep! You may have worn a condom but sucking that cock bare puts those bacteria into your throat (and the reverse can be true too). Asked the next time I was tested about it and we discussed how and why it was. Very interesting and information is power.

 
Some of you reading this are probably freaked out and you SHOULD be... AWARENESS is the key. Don't go by what you think you know. ASK. Planned Parenthood doctors pretty much assume my job and try to load me up with condoms which I won't take - tell them someone needs them more plus I have a fave brand they don't carry heehee.

 
The poster I am replying directly to: Your attitude is terrible! "Getting tested every other week" comment shows your lack of respect for the safety issues we are discussing. Your mocking tone and rude passive comments did NOT go unnoticed. I can tell you that the guys reading this blog are likely taking notes on who is taking their business and profession seriously with caution versus.... others.

 
I know my post sounds harsh. Good. Wake up ladies!
All posted with a strict mommy's concern and love  
(no I'm not a mother, just my heart goes out to all of you and this is just tough love)

Getting tested is absolutely essential for both men and women who aren't in a committed monogamous relationship. I  completely agree with Goldie's post about getting tested every 30 days. Some stds won't have symptoms and have an incubation period.  

Out at the Bunnyranch we are tested every 7days and have to be medically cleared before we went to work.  

It's kinda crazy how some people are so lax about their own sexual health. The bigger picture is that without safe practices something could be spread throughout our community.  This could ruin marriages  and even lives.  There is still no cure for aids. Once you contract it it's a done deal.  

Planned parenthood is free and anonymous. Don't wait until u have symptoms to get tested.  

I'm afraid to say that once every 6months isn't enough if you have new partners all the time  and come into contact with body fluids frequently. Just think if god forbid you caught something a month after your last test you would still potentially be spreading it around for the next 5 months before you ever knew!!!
Better safe than sorry!!!!
This stuff can potentially kill people in the long run...

Let's all just have the respect for ourselves and others to  keep our wonderful community safe and healthy!!  

You guys are all great and I'm glad this thread was started and we can have a productive informative dialog for the most part about it!

Xoxo xoxo Eva bliss :)

I agree completely. How can getting tested, even if being overly cautious, be a bad thing?

I don't agree with everything that was said in these various posts, but I must say it is at least refreshing to see all this put on the table.  I for one think regular testing is a good idea.  I've always thought that a lack of frank discussions about sexual health issues was the proverbial elephant in the living room on this and other boards.  The providers I trust are those who are cautious and careful, but I've never felt that the fun was being compromised when I was with them.  If anything, I felt appreciative of their professionalism and knew I was as safe as I could be in that encounter.  My biggest concern is that someone here on the local scene - provider or hobbyist - will continue to work / indulge while knowing full well that they have a contagious disease and not giving a rat's about the rest of us.

This thread is very informational and yes I agree with Toni and Goldie. Also some stds will not go away like HPV. Stats have shown that 1 in 4 people have it. I dont know what the stats are now, better safe than sorry. get tested every 30 days. Please be safe ladies and gents. Get tested everyone.  

Posted By: osssieboy
I don't agree with everything that was said in these various posts, but I must say it is at least refreshing to see all this put on the table.  I for one think regular testing is a good idea.  I've always thought that a lack of frank discussions about sexual health issues was the proverbial elephant in the living room on this and other boards.  The providers I trust are those who are cautious and careful, but I've never felt that the fun was being compromised when I was with them.  If anything, I felt appreciative of their professionalism and knew I was as safe as I could be in that encounter.  My biggest concern is that someone here on the local scene - provider or hobbyist - will continue to work / indulge while knowing full well that they have a contagious disease and not giving a rat's about the rest of us.  

Posted By: jackdawkins
I agree completely. How can getting tested, even if being overly cautious, be a bad thing?
IT IS NOT A BAD THING.

 And maybe my tone has people thinking I take this lightly. I dont.  I just dont like how a few ladies are constantly acting like they know all and their way is the only way.  Everyone knows  their own business and while going every month is necessary for ones piece of mind, going every other month iisnt being a flake and putting others at risk.  And my whole point is that any one can say they are doing something.  I just tend to stop believing people when all they ever say is how awesome they are and how they are doing it right and others are filthy tramps .  And then to say.. I am doing it from the heart or I love you all.  WHAT?  you dont talk the way they do to others , and be demeaning and then say I am just looking out.  That doesnt float in my boat.  
The tone I wrote my reply in was meant to be satirical.  I was acting like they do.  I guess the problem with print is it sometimes gets lost. I tried to put in enough over the top comments to make it clear I was making a point (wrapping yourself in plastic, germaphobe??? ) I dont really think these things and if someone were to do them, well more power to that person.   But dont spout a bunch of stuff that noone can ever know is true and talk down to people who are being honest.  Cuz being honest doesnt always make you look pretty.

Why would you even reply! You are the only one if you notice who is making a joke or light of it. I can only guess that all of us must be bullies since only ONE person seems to be sharing your flawed mindset. And your point that you think I'm fabricating the frequency of my visits? I can assure you I am not and even if I were your opinion of wether or not I did matters little in the discussion taking place. Your post was "satirical" and "acting like they do" you say? How is that? How do they act? How to they - all the people who have shared my opinion on this thread versus the ONE person who shares yours?

 
Nobody called you a filthy tramp but your suggestion that you were called one and were bullied is (to use Patricia's word) pathetic! Here comes the bullying: stop posting on this thread. You are digging yourself a HOLE. You are showing your total lack of sexual health and education. You took sex ed in high school which based on your posted age would have been no sooner than 1983. They began teaching about HIV/AIDS in 1986. I highly doubt you continued your sexual health education since then so your information is dated! And, odd, the other person is close to your age who agreed with you... Maybe sexual health is a generational thing?  

 
And YES my posts come from the heart! I don't want you walking around life thinking you are correct about sexual health. Also see my reply to your post below that was directly to mine for details on how very very very wrong your mindset is on STDs and your safety. If you felt bullied or bad I apologized in advance and at the end of the post but I am GLAD this is all out there. If your feelings are hurt but your knowledge of STDs and sexual health has expanded even a teenie bit then it was worth it for me and that is why I say it was sent with love and concern.  

 
And your last sentence is confusing to me - were you the one spoken down to for being honest but that being honest doesn't always make you look pretty or is it me in those spots? I can't quite understand....

 
To the people eating popcorn and reading this train wreck of a blog that was MEANT to spread sexual awareness - hiiiiiiiiii :) sorry you have to see me all sassy but this isn't a blog about which vets office to use it's about something that passes from person to person and because I take the risks like everyone here I try to share what I know to help myself by helping others. HUGS

I had 2 different posts on this disappear so I am taking the hint that what I had to say shouldnt be said.  

SO I am only going to say...I wasnt insinuating that gals who get tested very often shouldnt. And I am 100% behind everyone having their own ideas on sexual health.  

What I didnt like, and why I wrote my reply in the manner I did , was the fact that a few gals, the same ones, are constantly putting others down. They are the "DIVAS" and their shit doesnt stink.  There opinions are right and gawd forbid anyone that doesnt toe the line.

I dont like bullies.  I dont like people that talk so loud and often about how awesome they are and make condescending remarks about others.  
 
Never would I say for someone not to go to the doctor as often as they want. And of course the doctor isnt going to tell you to not do that. Even if they think you are a hyprochondriac (however you spell that) they would never tell you not to come in.  Its because they are covering their asses.

I have been doing this along time and I am safe. I read up on current events and stay up on all the info.  And while someone may think she knows everything, read a little further and find out just  rare it is to get an std in your throat. Not saying you cant but most of the cases I have seen sited, are so bad that nobody should have put a dick that looked like that in their mouths. And to imply that I do bbbj so I must be more at risk( should I say you doing your gangbangs put you more at risk?)/  I dont cim or swallow, I dont even suck if they dribble a little. So what I am sucking is the same as if I were to suck their elbow.  I dont take their liquid into me in any way. Sure, I guess, a drop could sneak by, but so far ....it hasnt. So save your condescending talk for someone else.  I just dont like gagging on rubber and it tastes like crap.  But I dont think the way I do it is riskier. And I am not going to bash girls that do do the full thing because from my research even that way , it isnt easy getting it in your throat.  

I am not saying for anyone to be unsafe. But when you have more than one partner there is always going to be risks.  And if someone is being totally irresponsible then yes I think that needs to be addressed. But its kinda like going out in the cold.  Some people wear jacket, boots mittens, scarf, longjohns and some people just wear a jacket and a hat. We all know how much we need to be warm. We also know how much we need to do to be safe. I feel I do what needs to be done.  Now if I was to be out in the snow with just my socks on, then maybe you could come around and tell me I need to do it different.  But when someone is taking necessary precautions but you feel they should do more, well then maybe you need to find a less risky hobby.  
CUz I for one am tired of your holier than thou bullshit.

 
And I have had the hep shots. Got them along time ago.  

 

 
 

Posted By: GoldieKnox
In advance sorry this sounds so harsh but the post I am replying to infuriated me on many levels.  
   
   
 If you think a doctor will say you're a germaphobe by getting STD testing every 30 days your doc is a quack!  
   
   
 People, ladies, gents:  
 The facts are if you have ONE new sexual partner you should be tested. Period. Planned Parenthood is a source I have used since becoming sexually active from when I was scared to buy condoms as a teenager to when I wanted to be on birth control to be safer with my high school boyfriend. So, having been going to PP for almost 10 years very regularly (especially in recent years being a FS provider) every doctor there will tell you that is it WISE to get tested if you have multiple and new partners frequently. Not you HAVE to but it's SMART to err on the side of caution and KNOW you're okay instead of figure or assume.  
   
   
 And saying that someone who goes that much must have had "a lot of accidents" is inept. Some people payed attention in sex ed and know being tested often and thoroughly is the only thing you can do other than abstain from sex.  
   
   
 So, just coz something doesn't show up for up to 6 months means waiting 6 months? When many other illnesses, diseases and such can show up in a much shorter time or be asymptomatic? Do us ALL a favor and just go every 30 days! It takes 30 minutes of your month and it's FREE! What's your excuse other than "you aren't a germaphobe" or "you are safe with clients"? And YOU Stephie are offering BBBJ - you say "if you are being safe" but it's hypocritical because uncovered blow jobs are un-safe compared to covered ones... I am not spouting to have ladies switch to CBJs unless they wish but on one of the Celebrity Sex Rehab shows I had a wake-up call watching years ago when one of the members had an STD in their throat! Yep! You may have worn a condom but sucking that cock bare puts those bacteria into your throat (and the reverse can be true too). Asked the next time I was tested about it and we discussed how and why it was. Very interesting and information is power.  
   
   
 Some of you reading this are probably freaked out and you SHOULD be... AWARENESS is the key. Don't go by what you think you know. ASK. Planned Parenthood doctors pretty much assume my job and try to load me up with condoms which I won't take - tell them someone needs them more plus I have a fave brand they don't carry heehee.  
   
   
 The poster I am replying directly to: Your attitude is terrible! "Getting tested every other week" comment shows your lack of respect for the safety issues we are discussing. Your mocking tone and rude passive comments did NOT go unnoticed. I can tell you that the guys reading this blog are likely taking notes on who is taking their business and profession seriously with caution versus.... others.  
   
   
 I know my post sounds harsh. Good. Wake up ladies!  
 All posted with a strict mommy's concern and love  
 (no I'm not a mother, just my heart goes out to all of you and this is just tough love)

Am I a Diva because I know that you are wrong and am sharing your misinformation on an open board and doing so passionately? Ok, I can live with that. Been called worse lately, like a germaphobe.

 
Items that are sooooo wrong with this post:

1.) I dont take their liquid into me in any way.

Ever hear of precum? Sometimes it's noticeable, sometimes it's just a little. You 100% take precum into your mouth whenever doing a bbbj.
"While unprotected oral sex, both mouth to penis and mouth to vagina, carry statistically lower risks of STD transmittal than unprotected vaginal or anal sex, the risk still exists, according to Stanford University's Sexual Health Peer Resource Center (SHPRC, stanfordshprc.wordpress.com/about/) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC, www.cdc.gov).
The key to transmittal of most sexually transmitted diseases is infected body fluids.  These can include semen (including pre-cum), vaginal fluid, blood and saliva, though infection from saliva itself is apparently rare.  Not really surprising, that last, since saliva is designed to start breaking things down prior to digestion....
Though it is more likely to be passed via vaginal or anal intercourse, HIV can still be, and has been documented to have been, passed through oral sex only.  Infected semen/pre-cum or vaginal fluid can enter the body through a cut or sore in any body parts in contact."  
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=639

2.) it isnt easy getting it in your throat.  

"As any doctor at a genitourinary medicine (GUM) clinic can tell you, it is possible to acquire several forms of sexually transmitted diseases (STD) through oral sex – if the other person if infected...
In May 2011, researchers from University College London revealed that 4 per cent of London sex workers had chlamydia in their throats..."
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/infectionoralsex.htm
4% may seem like long odds but that would demonstrate it's not difficult to acquire.  

3.) And to imply that I do bbbj so I must be more at risk
"Oral sex isn't safe sex: blow jobs put both the giver and the receiver at risk of numerous STDs. Fortunately for everyone who enjoys fellatio, there are ways to make the act safer. Using a condom for oral sex won't make your blowjobs less fun, but they will make them much less likely to be something you'll regret."
http://std.about.com/od/prevention/ht/safefellatio.htm
Yes, you (and I) are more at risk than doing a covered one! And as I said, I know the risks which is why I go very often for testing :)

 

Trust me, not holier than thou and if you read my post and maybe weren't so jaded into not believing providers you could understand I sent all those words before with heart not heat. This post however is in heat because I can't understand your stance and mindset so I am becoming irked... Your posts here have been VERY passive toward me and I am not taking it any more! I sincerely hope you tell us more about what your knowledge base of STD and sexual health is so I can post more articles and comments showing you are ever so wrong and uninformed. My original post was meant to inform a general audience but now I have my star pupil who has sweetly volunteered to have me demonstrate that I have a VAST knowledge of sexual education and STD awareness.  

HUGS to everyone! Get tested and be aware! Knowledge is power!

Some good information was shared.  None of it new to me, except the 4% of throat STD in England. A bit heated but there is obvious passion around this topic.

Doctors play the odds. There are literally dozens of STD's that are not on the STD panel. The reason why is they are extremely uncommon. At least right now. Some are just mutations of known STD's and some are "new" altogether. No one is truly "safe".
 
Personally I have never had an STD and don't intend on getting one. And I have been sexually active since 1979.

I worked in SF in the late 80's and I can't even tell you the absolute panic up there at that time about HIV. It was an epidemic. Most people in that area at that time, including myself, were very well educated about HIV.

As usual you think you know everything.  You didnt even quote a source correctly. You said what you think and then sited the source.  

And my response came because of how certain people were talking to others. Not how they were talking to me.  I could have stayed out of it, but like I said I dont like bullies.  And no not to me. I dont let anyone bully me.  But I have always stood up for others as I did here.  And what I was mostly commenting on wasnt about safety it was about the condescending tone of certain people.  And if you read the posts, I am not the only one that was commenting on that.  Quite a few think a couple of you need to go to manners school.  

And I am not passive to you at all.  Maybe you meant passive aggressive but no I am not that either.  I am honest and in your face.  And fyi, I may have been in school back then but I havent stop learning and am well educated.  That is just another of your belittling ways.  You dont know me or how much education I have but you make your little comments.  Would you like to look at my transcripts.   Cuz when I say something I actually have proof to back it up.  

And like I said I am safe and I didnt say  stuff couldnt happen.  I said I practice safety and the amount of safety I practice has been doing its job because I havent ever had any problems.  

And you used to talk all about how fs was blah blah blah... But now you do it.  So obviously your opinion changes on a whim.  Maybe next year it will change again.  Like you implied I am old you are young.  Well being old means I have experience and I am pretty solid in my beliefs because they dont change like they do when you are young.    

So teach me all you want.  I value anyone who has something to say.  As long as they say it with respect.  And you may think I have none  but what I say is public knowledge (your previous posts from massage days) where as yours, how much education I have or what I know about anything, is  your presumptions.  Which are wrong.  

and like I said , you can message me privately. This doesnt need to keep on being a chick fight.

And fyi, there were a few posters on this very thread, who messaged me and  they werent telling me that they disagreed with me.  So again, your assumption that everyone on here has one opinion and I had the wrong one, was wrong again.  

SO bring it on little girl, I got tons of life I can school you in and wont put you down while I am doing it.  Cuz if I , in any way ,have been disrespectful to you....its all in love, girl.  I assume from the way others talk down to people that you are suppose to put that after so you dont seem like a bitch.  Did it work ?

 

 

 

 

 

Posted By: GoldieKnox
Am I a Diva because I know that you are wrong and am sharing your misinformation on an open board and doing so passionately? Ok, I can live with that. Been called worse lately, like a germaphobe.  
   
   
 Items that are sooooo wrong with this post:  
   
 1.) I dont take their liquid into me in any way.  
   
 Ever hear of precum? Sometimes it's noticeable, sometimes it's just a little. You 100% take precum into your mouth whenever doing a bbbj.  
 "While unprotected oral sex, both mouth to penis and mouth to vagina, carry statistically lower risks of STD transmittal than unprotected vaginal or anal sex, the risk still exists, according to Stanford University's Sexual Health Peer Resource Center (SHPRC, stanfordshprc.wordpress.com/about/) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC, www.cdc.gov).  
 The key to transmittal of most sexually transmitted diseases is infected body fluids.  These can include semen (including pre-cum), vaginal fluid, blood and saliva, though infection from saliva itself is apparently rare.  Not really surprising, that last, since saliva is designed to start breaking things down prior to digestion....  
 Though it is more likely to be passed via vaginal or anal intercourse, HIV can still be, and has been documented to have been, passed through oral sex only.  Infected semen/pre-cum or vaginal fluid can enter the body through a cut or sore in any body parts in contact."  
 https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=639  
   
 2.) it isnt easy getting it in your throat.    
   
 "As any doctor at a genitourinary medicine (GUM) clinic can tell you, it is possible to acquire several forms of sexually transmitted diseases (STD) through oral sex – if the other person if infected...  
 In May 2011, researchers from University College London revealed that 4 per cent of London sex workers had chlamydia in their throats..."  
 http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/infectionoralsex.htm  
 4% may seem like long odds but that would demonstrate it's not difficult to acquire.  
   
 3.) And to imply that I do bbbj so I must be more at risk  
 "Oral sex isn't safe sex: blow jobs put both the giver and the receiver at risk of numerous STDs. Fortunately for everyone who enjoys fellatio, there are ways to make the act safer. Using a condom for oral sex won't make your blowjobs less fun, but they will make them much less likely to be something you'll regret."  
 http://std.about.com/od/prevention/ht/safefellatio.htm  
 Yes, you (and I) are more at risk than doing a covered one! And as I said, I know the risks which is why I go very often for testing :)  
   
   
   
 Trust me, not holier than thou and if you read my post and maybe weren't so jaded into not believing providers you could understand I sent all those words before with heart not heat. This post however is in heat because I can't understand your stance and mindset so I am becoming irked... Your posts here have been VERY passive toward me and I am not taking it any more! I sincerely hope you tell us more about what your knowledge base of STD and sexual health is so I can post more articles and comments showing you are ever so wrong and uninformed. My original post was meant to inform a general audience but now I have my star pupil who has sweetly volunteered to have me demonstrate that I have a VAST knowledge of sexual education and STD awareness.  
   
 HUGS to everyone! Get tested and be aware! Knowledge is power!

This is my last post here since you clearly aren't absorbing the information I am sharing.
Keep thinking you are safe with your ancient knowledge.

 

Gents who PMed her (or so she says) please forward those notes to me - I want to avoid anyone who shares her mindset.

Hi Goldie,

         I'm new here, I was sort of fascinated by this thread and I do agree on safety but I noticed this other TER thread from Las Vegas that you're with a male escort offering bi couple services? Isn't that sort of thing risky?

Joe

Very informative, T.
 And I guess not the site GK was reading.  Because I read alot that she must have missed.  

And just to say this, for every opinion or quote there are plenty more to back what any one says.  That is why we all need to be as informed as we can be and make informed decisions.  

And the last thing I will say: anyone can say anything they want. But each person has to always assume that those we are with could be doing just about anything.  I never said I dont believe in being safe.  And I dont like the accusations that I am.  Its immature and unfounded.  

My entire point of what I wrote wasnt about safety.   It was about how disrespectful some gals are and how they seem to think if you dont agree exactly with them that you are completely in opposition to them.  Thats not the case.  I fully agree with anyone (hobbyist and providers or the civvies out there) to get tested as often as they feel they need to.  With every 6 months being the minimum.  

And that everyone should value the opinions of others and try to learn what they can from them.  Because GK your accusations about me and anyone that sees me is proving the point that I was trying to make.  That certain divas think they are above any one else. And they make comments that are hurtful.  And can cause problems for others.  I dont appreciate you trying to do that to me but I am hoping the men that read this are smarter than you give them credit for and that they will see you for the malicious little brat you are.

This is the elephant in the room.  

I am actually embarrassed how little I know about the risks.  While I know which acts carry relatively more risk, I have very little idea what the odds are of those risks.

While I think every provider/hobbyist knows to use a condom for sex, I have seen much more disparity from provider to provider regarding oral (condom or not? swallow, spit, or not even have finish in mouth?) and even kissing (some it seems very begrudging peck to try to be GFE, others light kissing/open mouth, and others heavy/DFK).  Does anyone know the estimated odds (ex: 1 in 1000 or 1 in 100,000) from a reputable source of contracting an STD from the following menu items:

* Kissing - 1) just lips no tongue, LFK (mouth open and tongues exposed to air), or DFK (mouths locked and more saliva transferred back and forth).  

* Oral on man (risks to woman) - 1) uncovered swallow, 2) uncovered spit, 3) uncovered come outside mouth, 4) covered. 5) My understanding is risks to men are very low relatively, but it would be very interested to hear these odds as well for the same options.

* Oral on female (risk to man) - 1) largely on outside/clit, 2) tongue in vagina. 3) Again, worth hearing the risk to woman as well, I know they are higher than the risks to a man getting blowjob.

* Sex - 1) protected, 2) unprotected.

* Anal - 1) protected, 2) unprotected.

* Rimming?

* Anything else?

Finally, I would assume that you should be able to do a visual inspection of the other person to see if your risks are significantly higher of doing an act with someone.  As an example, clearly you don't kiss someone with a herpes breakout on their lips. Does anyone know a good site that outlines visual cues that suggest your risk is much higher?

 Thanks!

All good questions, however, I recommend speaking with your doctor.  I message my doctor on a regular basis and she's always good at getting back to me. I trust her advice over anyone that replies to this thread. She tells me the facts minus the condescending tone. Here's a link that I found helpful. :)  

http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

 

T

I found a site called STD risk calculator, it has some questions and comes up with a risk percentage of contraction. If you can't get the link from this message just google STD Risk Calculator.

I don't think that we should resort to name calling and shit talking while sharing different points of view on different subjects...  

If someone shares a viewpoint that isn't shared by others then we can all see this as a chance to educate and share new ideas for the greater good of the whole community...  

I remember when I started as an escort I didn't know a whole lot about sexual education. I knew to use a condom with no exceptions however beyond that I was a little in the dark.

 I was fortunate to have a good doctor to confide my occupation in, and she gave me the wise advice that after every new partner its good to get tested after 30 days. Even if you don't see new clients, your regular clients may have seen new escorts.

As for safety practices, there is always a risk involved for everyone who comes into contact with someone else's body fluids. Thats the nature of the beast.  

Getting tested more often simply keeps you from spreading something god forbid that happens.  

I hate watching so much negativity, especially when the conversation about sexual health is such an important topic to have on this board in the first place....  

Lets all just be nice and respect each other. Differing opinions can make this place great, but sometimes the method of delivery leaves something to be desired

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Thank you EB for injecting a voice of reason into this dialog.

...this thread would have progressed differently.

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