Absolute Healing Touch, Caprice, Royal Palace, and San Diego Day Spa are all but eliminated. How can we as a board make sure that these places and ladies do not get into trouble? Face it guys, together with these ladies we are in a partnership with them. If we do not treat it as such, this hobby of ours dies and goes away. Who else is gone from circulation, secondly how can we help the ladies maybe in their defense fund? They do not charge enough for the risk they face. Interesting thought, I await your replies.

This board is for the free exchange of information regarding the hobby. Unfortunately, since LE closely monitors this board, that exchange of info can only point out those who are providing services. The only alternative is to keep all info to yourself about the ladies here in town.

Maybe so, but the providers are still human beings with feelings and families. Should we help in anyway with the defense or loss of income while away fighting for freedom? This would suck to have this down time at the holidays. Thoughts, or is just the risk of doing business? Can we tame the reviews, maybe a "ditto" would suffice.

Hi,   I have been off the boards for a long time and  out of touch with the 'comunity 'in general. Sad to see that more of the women in the biz have been hurt. From one who has been there,I can tell you that it is life altering ! When Le steps in all the best intentions and plans for family and finances, relationships, are 'effected'(an understatement!!) and it is the worst feeling of being out of control of ones life. I have been searching for 'the pearl' in this process ,and all I can come up with is you find out who your real friends are, and you learn to surrender. I have met so many wonderful people along the way and do not regret the path I have taken. The sensual path is still the truest one for me.

Just be aware that there are those who do not approve of this private business being made public. LE DOES use info on the net to identify providers and to justify an investigation.   Providers and clients both depend on each other for discretion. Respect the privacey of the women  you enjoy..    
hugs, Intuitive

I mean why would you invest money to help these women? I would be putting money in the pockets of charities before I helped out a massage girl. Are you thinking more with your small head? I feel bad for anyone who is losing there job, whether it is due to the economy or LE, but that is not our concerns. I think if you are getting that personal with someone then this is not a hobby anymore. There will always be another girl that comes along and does the same thing anyway, and I am sure that you will not think the same way when she does. I am not trying to offend you either, I just can't understand your logic unless you are a provider yourself.

If any of you really knew how much a competent trial defense costs, then it will strike how silly some kind of contribution from hobbyists would be. I'm talking thousands of dollars. You could pay for it if you are a "money is no object" kind of rich guy. Just ask OJ how much good lawyering costs!

This is a crazy point, everyone wants a GFE but screw them when things go south. Maybe this is why "she just laid there." If you have no campassion for people, no sensitivity for them then this is not a hobby for you, but a way of life and intinacy.
These girls do not lose their "jobs", they lose their income source. It is a real big deal. It is a loss on at least two fronts, protect yourself in court, and create a new income source.
I do not take it personal, but it is a shame these girls get hammered for a victomless crime.

I am not one to jump into a philosophical arguement, but isn't the real point of this discussion (and this board) for both sides to pursue their true interests in a safe, satisfying manner?  I have been very guilty in my own reviews of exposing too much detail.  I have learned my lesson.  

Now what I see as the dilemna is how do we satisfy our need for info while protecting the providers who are sincere in their intentions without opening up to LE?  I have taken the time to personally meet with a handful of hobbyists from TER since I joined in August.  All good folks too.  I will trade info readily with them and recommend them to provider friends because we now have established a basis for trust - kind of a network if you will.  Is that the level we all need to gravitate too? How do we weed out the untrusting hobbyists as well as we do the bad providers?  I have never seen a provider comment about a hobbyist (so as to warn us to stay clear).  Just my thoughts - any ideas?

Nice to hear that there are those who understand the compassionate nature of the biz.  int